Paris - Roubaix 2024, one day monument, April 7

[Berniece]

How did option 1 look like?

Probably a detour that wasn't possible due to a pothole

 

[Rob5091]

So how many will crash trying to get to the new chicane first? If it's so dangerous remove the sector, or otherwise stop messing around as everyone knows what's it like.

If crazy guys want to descend down a wet mountain road at 100 km/h people say nothing, but going as fast as possible over cobbles is life threatening.

 

[awavey]

Paris-Roubaix and the Tour are the two biggest sporting events in France, and they can't fix a pothole? Must be some pothole.

If as we believe it has only become a "problem since DDV, maybe time was an issue.

But equally if the PR is one of the biggest sporting events in France, in what reality is a narrow uturn surrounded by metal barriers a fix either ?

 

[Nick2413]

If the chicane is considered a success this year, can we expect them to move on to other sections of the course next year? It wouldn’t really make sense to stop there, it’s not like safety discussions are going to stop so why not move on to the next most dangerous sector?

 

[Escarabajo]

How did option 1 look like?

 

[Lequack]

What about a sand section before Arensberg?

 

[Extinction]

If as we believe it has only become a "problem since DDV, maybe time was an issue.

But equally if the PR is one of the biggest sporting events in France, in what reality is a narrow uturn surrounded by metal barriers a fix either ?

I'd say through some tarmac and pitch in it and carry on, if feasable. As to your question, a strange reality for sure.

 

[Escarabajo]

Instead of the chicane, why wouldn't they just make the entrance a bit less dangerous for 300m? Get the cobbles out of the ground, and put them back in properly, but just for 300m. This would make sure that chance of crashing at 60km/h is a lot less, while also slowing them down a bit once the real shitty cobbles start.

The problem with this solution was probably timing.

 

[Extinction]

What about a sand section before Arensberg?

Or sand bags.

 

[Extinction]

Even before it’s been raced, the chicane, which is more strictly a 180-degree U-turn, has sparked multiple, and varied, arguments both for and against it. Defending Paris-Roubaix champion Mathieu van der Poel (Alpecin-Deceuninck) recently posted a pointed single-line ‘Is this a joke?’ reaction on Twitter, formerly X, to make their feelings plain.



The American’s post, though, is markedly in favour, saying via a post on the same social media network : "Is this what fans want to see? Riders completely covered in blood after sliding face-first at 50mph/80kph on sharp rocks in a forest? I’ll take a couple of turns and some guys sliding out on pavement any day…"

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBiXPVKuTA

 

[Max Rockatansky]

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...lestones-caked-in-mud-ahead-of-weekend-races/

"This is after some cleaning"! 20C on Sunday? Phew ...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775827346336981072

View: https://twitter.com/Dylandelpl02/status/1775827346336981072


Looking good.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Chicanes or no chicanes, I don't care!
For the first time ever I am just setting off for a weekend watching Paris Poubaix by the roadside.

Would you be available to stand in the middle of Av. Michel Rondet, just before the level crossing, in an inflatable sumo outfit?

 

[Berniece]

For non dutch speakers you have to translate it, but Hansen give an extra explanation on why they eventually landed on this solution.

Option 1 - Not possible due to pothole
Option 2 - Residential area, with too many gutters
Option 3 - The only other option

Hoe kwam de Roubaix-chicane tot stand? Deze 3 opties lagen op tafel: "Alles beter dan originele parcours" | sporza

Voor of tegen, logisch of absurd: de chicane in Parijs-Roubaix beroert de tongen van iedereen die er iets mee te maken heeft. Nochtans kwam de roep naar een gewijzigde aanloop voor het Bos van Wallers er op vraag van de renners zelf. Dus verdedigt Adam Hansen het ommetje. "Het kan een game...

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[Wvv]

For non dutch speakers you have to translate it, but Hansen give an extra explanation on why they eventually landed on this solution.

Option 1 - Not possible due to pothole
Option 2 - Residential area, with too many gutters
Option 3 - The only other option

Hoe kwam de Roubaix-chicane tot stand? Deze 3 opties lagen op tafel: "Alles beter dan originele parcours" | sporza

Voor of tegen, logisch of absurd: de chicane in Parijs-Roubaix beroert de tongen van iedereen die er iets mee te maken heeft. Nochtans kwam de roep naar een gewijzigde aanloop voor het Bos van Wallers er op vraag van de renners zelf. Dus verdedigt Adam Hansen het ommetje. "Het kan een game...

sporza.be

Should've kept the parcours this year like it was and made sure that option 1 was well prepared for the next edition.

 

[Berniece]

Should've kept the parcours this year like it was and made sure that option 1 was well prepared for the next edition.

I don't understand why option 1 isn't possible. It's a decision of money mostly.

 

[Izzyeviel]

I don't understand why option 1 isn't possible. It's a decision of money mostly.

money, would take time to renovate the road, and its owned by the museum - they might not appreciate a cycling event going past their front door & you would need to remove the security barriers for the race.

 

[awavey]

What about a sand section before Arensberg?

Well I was thinking how about use the railway tracks, use them toput in some cyclocross 2 by 4 planks of wood style barriers to bunny hop 😉

 

[Ricco']

money, would take time to renovate the road, and its owned by the museum - they might not appreciate a cycling event going past their front door & you would need to remove the security barriers for the race.

This option would also make it impossible to access the parking lot where the spectators can park their car, as the only point of entry is by that part of the road.

With proper time, the road could be fixed and could be created another access point to the parking lot through the main road, if the local authorities want to do it.

 

[Extinction]

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I've thankfully never thought of therapy to spare the therapist, lad. You, like she, are hung up on a posteriori experience, rather than a priori knowledge. They are different.

 

[Extinction]

You've extrapolated a tension in a philosophical context, into the development of safety measures...it's laughable, actually. It appears to only serve your need to aggrandize yourself in a public manner, for a psychological need that is more transparent that you appear to understand.

I'm just here to chat. 😅

 

[Extinction]

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Oh, come on, she got bogged down in the morass of dogmatism and then belittled me for bringing in (God forbid) all that old school stuff. I quite like her, but wanted to, you know, just mess around a bit. She gave it back admirably.

 

[RedheadDane]

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He just thinks knowledge is some kind of eternal thing that people can never gain more of...

 

[Extinction]

He just thinks knowledge is some kind of eternal thing that people can never gain more of...

In so far as knowledge drives technological developments, but we remain completely ignorant of that which lies beyond the limits of knowledge itself.

 

[Extinction]

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I agree with all but people having a "bloodlust...for riders endangering themselves on cobbles". I don't think anyone likes to see carneage on the pavé and hopes every rider makes it to the finish unsacathed.

I honestly think with the performance science behind riders and equipment, the level of glorification of athletes today and the economic demands placed on them, together is making the sport just insane. There are too many crashes. In 42 years following the sport, I've never seen all the main contenders go down at once with diasterous effect. Something needs to change.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I agree with all but people having a "bloodlust...for riders endangering themselves on cobbles". I don't think anyone likes to see carneage on the pavé and hopes every rider makes it to the finish unsacathed.

I honestly think with the performance science behind riders and equipment, the level of glorification of athletes today and the economic demands placed on them, together is making the sport just insane. There are too many crashes. In 42 years following the sport, I've never seen all the main contenders go down at once with diasterous effect. Something needs to change.

I'm only 31 years in, and I've also never seen anything like what happened today.