10 riders of all time you really don't like

[Zinoviev Letter]

I wish more people would give their reasons. Not for the picks where the reasoning is more or less obvious - the dominant GC riders, the big bunch sprinters, the guys who never take a pull, those who were popped doping - but for the other riders people pick. The ones that are in some sense more personal and idiosyncratic.

I'm much more interested in why people pick a Warren Barguil, a Rigoberto Uran, a Tony Martin, a Dan Martin, a Carlos Sastre, a Julian Alaphillipe, a Greg Van Avermaet etc.

 

[Big Doopie]

armstrong

vino
valverde
contador
riis
indurain
chiappucci
hincapie
schlecklet

merckx (loved him when he was riding - lost respect for him since)

 

[PremierAndrew]

Very similar thread got locked a while ago

 

[KyoGrey]

Richard Virenque
Lance Armstrong
David Millar
Danilo Di Luca
Ricardo Riccó
Bradley Wiggins
Mark Cavendish
Igor González de Galdeano
Thomas Voeckler

of the top of my head.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Inspired by the other thread

Alexander Vinokourov
Joachim Rodriguez
Christopher Froome
Vincenzo Nibali
Mikel Landa
Nairo Quintana
Ilnur Zakarin
Fabian Cancellara
Alexandr Kolobnev
Erik Zabel

10 is actuall not enough, no place for Piti, LRP, Dylan Thomas....

No one caught on to this - understandably so, because I don't think anyone knows what it means. Isn't it time to let it go?

 

[Gigs_98]

Gerrans: wheelsucker
Matthews: same
Majka: same
Kittel: most boring sprinter right now
T. Martin: whiny and he said some very stupid things
Froome: i started to like him a bit more but for me he still represents the skytrain which I absolutely hate so I still don't want to see him winning. Oh, and ofc his riding style
Boonen: mostly because I'm a big cancellara fan . But also because I sometimes had the feeling etixx rode mostly for him when he was already past his prime although the team had better riders
Totschnig and Kohl: because they completely destroyed cycling in Austria
Bouhanni: the way he sprints is just not okay.

 

[yaco]

I like all riders. You have to be talented to make it at the WT level.

 

[ebandit]

cadel evans
lance
greg lemond
lizzie armitstead
fabian cancellara
erik zirbel
jeannie longo
thor hushovd
anne-caroline chausson
caleb ewan

too funny....dish the dislike.....Mark L

 

[Jspear]

"Really Unlike" is to strong for me in most cases. These are riders I just didn't really care for...except the first

Lance Armstrong
Andy Schleck
Frank Schleck
Tyler Farrar
Chris Froome (I'll probably never be a fan of his, but he did grow on me just a little this year. His team though...ugh)
Marcel Kittel
Richie Porte
Floyd Landis
Jan Ullrich
Dave Brailsford

 

[kenk09]

Re:

Froome - ugly riding style. Mendacious. Can't abide the BS, nor the fake self-effacing 'meekness'.
Armstrong - Bully. Utter douche. Totally killed cycling for me for years. Weirdly feel a bit sorry for him these days coz of the inconsistency of his pariah status with that of his contemporaries some of whom are making a nice career for themselves on the back of their doping..which bring me to
David Millar - that whole redemption narrative and the pseudishness, I find intolerable. Good commentator, though.
Schlecklet - Seemed to think his talent was enough without working; unendurably whiny.
Cipo - loved himself so much I felt it my duty to loathe him in equal amounts in an attempt to redress the balance.
VdBroeck. Don't even no why. Totally irrational hatred.

looooooooong gap:

Porte, Thomas, Yates, Martin almost any Anglophone (particularly at Sky, and I suspect, Team DD may get that way in future) - Embodiments of the Commentator's Curse - that I find my dislike increases in direct proportion to the amount of fawning adulation they receive from commentators. Cav. suffered from this in the past for me, and I like him far better after he's been 'written-off'. Also, because even though he can be petulant, think he's a least passionate about cycling. Sagan is probably the only rider I still actively like despite the commentator's apparently worshipping him as a near-deity.
Vino - Corrupt to the core. Redeemed slightly by the fact he's a plain dealing villain.

Maybe time for you to grow up.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re: Re:

Froome - ugly riding style. Mendacious. Can't abide the BS, nor the fake self-effacing 'meekness'.
Armstrong - Bully. Utter douche. Totally killed cycling for me for years. Weirdly feel a bit sorry for him these days coz of the inconsistency of his pariah status with that of his contemporaries some of whom are making a nice career for themselves on the back of their doping..which bring me to
David Millar - that whole redemption narrative and the pseudishness, I find intolerable. Good commentator, though.
Schlecklet - Seemed to think his talent was enough without working; unendurably whiny.
Cipo - loved himself so much I felt it my duty to loathe him in equal amounts in an attempt to redress the balance.
VdBroeck. Don't even no why. Totally irrational hatred.

looooooooong gap:

Porte, Thomas, Yates, Martin almost any Anglophone (particularly at Sky, and I suspect, Team DD may get that way in future) - Embodiments of the Commentator's Curse - that I find my dislike increases in direct proportion to the amount of fawning adulation they receive from commentators. Cav. suffered from this in the past for me, and I like him far better after he's been 'written-off'. Also, because even though he can be petulant, think he's a least passionate about cycling. Sagan is probably the only rider I still actively like despite the commentator's apparently worshipping him as a near-deity.
Vino - Corrupt to the core. Redeemed slightly by the fact he's a plain dealing villain.

Maybe time for you to grow up.

In the particular narrow context she gave that view isn't particularly childish or bigoted. I am an anglophone and on occasion incessant commentator hype makes me feel that way.

In every country, in every sport, commentators give particular attention to domestic athletes, sometimes is a silly or boring way. But cycling seems to have a unique pan-anglophone "nationalism" among the various commentators. Sean Kelly is about the only anglophone commentator who doesn't seem to hype British, Irish, American and Australian riders constantly.

It's not enough to make me actually dislike any rider in particular on an ongoing basis, but every once in a while some commentary will annoy me so much that I find myself briefly cheering against a rider I usually cheer for.

 

[Ramon Koran]

Re: Re:

Froome - ugly riding style. Mendacious. Can't abide the BS, nor the fake self-effacing 'meekness'.
Armstrong - Bully. Utter douche. Totally killed cycling for me for years. Weirdly feel a bit sorry for him these days coz of the inconsistency of his pariah status with that of his contemporaries some of whom are making a nice career for themselves on the back of their doping..which bring me to
David Millar - that whole redemption narrative and the pseudishness, I find intolerable. Good commentator, though.
Schlecklet - Seemed to think his talent was enough without working; unendurably whiny.
Cipo - loved himself so much I felt it my duty to loathe him in equal amounts in an attempt to redress the balance.
VdBroeck. Don't even no why. Totally irrational hatred.

looooooooong gap:

Porte, Thomas, Yates, Martin almost any Anglophone (particularly at Sky, and I suspect, Team DD may get that way in future) - Embodiments of the Commentator's Curse - that I find my dislike increases in direct proportion to the amount of fawning adulation they receive from commentators. Cav. suffered from this in the past for me, and I like him far better after he's been 'written-off'. Also, because even though he can be petulant, think he's a least passionate about cycling. Sagan is probably the only rider I still actively like despite the commentator's apparently worshipping him as a near-deity.
Vino - Corrupt to the core. Redeemed slightly by the fact he's a plain dealing villain.

Maybe time for you to grow up.

In the particular narrow context she gave that view isn't particularly childish or bigoted. I am an anglophone and on occasion incessant commentator hype makes me feel that way.

In every country, in every sport, commentators give particular attention to domestic athletes, sometimes is a silly or boring way. But cycling seems to have a unique pan-anglophone "nationalism" among the various commentators. Sean Kelly is about the only anglophone commentator who doesn't seem to hype British, Irish, American and Australian riders constantly.

It's not enough to make me actually dislike any rider in particular on an ongoing basis, but every once in a while some commentary will annoy me so much that I find myself briefly cheering against a rider I usually cheer for.

You should try listening to French commentary during the Tour, far worst then any anglophone hyping. Yet sepite this I still like the french riders, making your opinion on riders due to commentary is childish, immature and is a huge problem in today's society were every one is influenced by the media.

 

[pastronef]

I've never "really not liked" anyone

it depends on teams they race for of if they beat riders I liked

Nibali
Bartoli (when he won his 2 Lieges, I cheered for Berzin and Jaja/Zulle)
Sagan (so many riders I liked were 2nd behind him, I have lost count)
Kittel
Geschke
Ballan
Paolini
Pirazzi
Aru
Rui Costa

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

Froome - ugly riding style. Mendacious. Can't abide the BS, nor the fake self-effacing 'meekness'.
Armstrong - Bully. Utter douche. Totally killed cycling for me for years. Weirdly feel a bit sorry for him these days coz of the inconsistency of his pariah status with that of his contemporaries some of whom are making a nice career for themselves on the back of their doping..which bring me to
David Millar - that whole redemption narrative and the pseudishness, I find intolerable. Good commentator, though.
Schlecklet - Seemed to think his talent was enough without working; unendurably whiny.
Cipo - loved himself so much I felt it my duty to loathe him in equal amounts in an attempt to redress the balance.
VdBroeck. Don't even no why. Totally irrational hatred.

looooooooong gap:

Porte, Thomas, Yates, Martin almost any Anglophone (particularly at Sky, and I suspect, Team DD may get that way in future) - Embodiments of the Commentator's Curse - that I find my dislike increases in direct proportion to the amount of fawning adulation they receive from commentators. Cav. suffered from this in the past for me, and I like him far better after he's been 'written-off'. Also, because even though he can be petulant, think he's a least passionate about cycling. Sagan is probably the only rider I still actively like despite the commentator's apparently worshipping him as a near-deity.
Vino - Corrupt to the core. Redeemed slightly by the fact he's a plain dealing villain.

Maybe time for you to grow up.

In the particular narrow context she gave that view isn't particularly childish or bigoted. I am an anglophone and on occasion incessant commentator hype makes me feel that way.

In every country, in every sport, commentators give particular attention to domestic athletes, sometimes is a silly or boring way. But cycling seems to have a unique pan-anglophone "nationalism" among the various commentators. Sean Kelly is about the only anglophone commentator who doesn't seem to hype British, Irish, American and Australian riders constantly.

It's not enough to make me actually dislike any rider in particular on an ongoing basis, but every once in a while some commentary will annoy me so much that I find myself briefly cheering against a rider I usually cheer for.

Totally agree, it happens for me every time a Dane does well. I find myself cheering against them for that same reason, the immense hype is sometimes unbearable. Some commentators are worse than others tho

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

Re:

Very similar thread got locked a while ago

This time around folks are being nice. I mean nobody even mentioned Horner and I know he's reviled. Andy Schleck came up and nobody questioned his gender or sexual preferences yet this is a pretty tame thread by CNF standards.

 

[ggusta]

perhaps it should be 9 riders instead of ten,
so we can just reserve a permanent spot for lance on all top 10 douchcanoe lists.

 

[kenk09]

Re: Re:

Froome - ugly riding style. Mendacious. Can't abide the BS, nor the fake self-effacing 'meekness'.
Armstrong - Bully. Utter douche. Totally killed cycling for me for years. Weirdly feel a bit sorry for him these days coz of the inconsistency of his pariah status with that of his contemporaries some of whom are making a nice career for themselves on the back of their doping..which bring me to
David Millar - that whole redemption narrative and the pseudishness, I find intolerable. Good commentator, though.
Schlecklet - Seemed to think his talent was enough without working; unendurably whiny.
Cipo - loved himself so much I felt it my duty to loathe him in equal amounts in an attempt to redress the balance.
VdBroeck. Don't even no why. Totally irrational hatred.

looooooooong gap:

Porte, Thomas, Yates, Martin almost any Anglophone (particularly at Sky, and I suspect, Team DD may get that way in future) - Embodiments of the Commentator's Curse - that I find my dislike increases in direct proportion to the amount of fawning adulation they receive from commentators. Cav. suffered from this in the past for me, and I like him far better after he's been 'written-off'. Also, because even though he can be petulant, think he's a least passionate about cycling. Sagan is probably the only rider I still actively like despite the commentator's apparently worshipping him as a near-deity.
Vino - Corrupt to the core. Redeemed slightly by the fact he's a plain dealing villain.

Maybe time for you to grow up.

In the particular narrow context she gave that view isn't particularly childish or bigoted. I am an anglophone and on occasion incessant commentator hype makes me feel that way.

In every country, in every sport, commentators give particular attention to domestic athletes, sometimes is a silly or boring way. But cycling seems to have a unique pan-anglophone "nationalism" among the various commentators. Sean Kelly is about the only anglophone commentator who doesn't seem to hype British, Irish, American and Australian riders constantly.

It's not enough to make me actually dislike any rider in particular on an ongoing basis, but every once in a while some commentary will annoy me so much that I find myself briefly cheering against a rider I usually cheer for.

Honestly, it's the absolute definition of bigotry.

Sure, commentators go over board about riders. British commentators never shut up about Sagan, Contador, Alaphillipe, Cancellara, Bardet, Poels, Dumoulin, Teklehaimanot, Reichenbach, etc etc. Thankfully Electress lets us know what makes them different from Yates, Martin, Thomas, Porte!

It's ugly, and it's glossed over too much on here.

And come on, you know commentators for every country root for 'their own'.

 

[dick the quick]

Would be interesting to see a kind of "hate/dislike vs. palmares" analysis.

Based on what others have said, it seems that you can hate/dislike in the same way someone who won (?) a number of GTs, not to mention other results (Armstrong) and someone who did not do much apart of GT stage wins and podiuming in Vuelta (Majka).

 

[ggusta]

Re:

Would be interesting to see a kind of "hate/dislike vs. palmares" analysis.

Based on what others have said, it seems that you can hate/dislike in the same way someone who won (?) a number of GTs, not to mention other results (Armstrong) and someone who did not do much apart of GT stage wins and podiuming in Vuelta (Majka).

so are you implying some sort of factor should be applied to how much and what the hated person has won? that's interesting. so I guess the really worst riders would be guys who have won little or less significant races and still manage to be hated.

 

[Cookster15]

Who cares if the rider is Anglophone, Colombian, Italian, Spanish etc. Judge riders on their merit not where they were born. Blind Fan boyism isn't limited to Anglophiles anyone who visits this forum regularly will know that.

 

[dick the quick]

Well, it was rather just an observation that people hate or dislike riders for various reasons, some of them having nothing to do with the performance/results, for example: clinic reasons, cheating, racing style (wheelsucking etc.), attitude towards other riders etc. You don't need to achieve great results in order to be disliked, that was my point.