2 new doping positives names tbc

[mycenos]

The Costa brothers say their positives were the result of a supplement. It is possible--check out this article about the methylhexanamine positives at the Commonwealth Games:

CWF chief Fennell said: "We are concerned with the number of incidents that are coming up with the same substance.

"At this stage I cannot speak very definitively as to where it's coming from but it appears that it may be coming from the use of supplements."

also:

The drug, which has some performance-enhancing qualities, is commonly found but often not labelled in supplements and products such as nasal decongestants.

As the BBC's Steve Cram notes, the drug can therefore be taken by accident

 

[Squares]

I doubt it's Rui Costa. Caisse have always done things "right".

Like hire Valv.Piti

Now it is clear that it was Rui Costa.

They are all on dope, Caisse, Astana, Saxo, RS, all of them!!!

 

[JPM London]

Maybe they should make it an annual pledge or something, like a magazine subscription. Send them a renewal form every year, if it's not returned by end of Feb then remove them.

Yes, and then there could be a "bike-pure passport" where the UCI monitor whether the riders are members of bike-pure and if the find anomalies (ie, not being a member) they can then do targeted tests

Anyway, what is it this stuff does?

 

[goggalor]

No, but he does a yellow one...

Are those... ankle socks?

Lifetime ban.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The Costa brothers say their positives were the result of a supplement. It is possible--check out this article about the methylhexanamine positives at the Commonwealth Games:

also:

The article cited earlier by DAOTEC (http://jornalciclismo.com/rui-e-mario-costa-suspensos-preventivamente) includes this passage, quoting Rui:

“Quando recebemos a notificação pensámos que fosse engano, pelo que pedimos a contra-análise que deu o mesmo resultado. Foi nessa altura que enviámos o suplemento alimentar para análise. Foi analisado num laboratório acreditado pela União Ciclista Internacional, que detectou a contaminação com o tal estimulante”.

What is said is that they thought it was a mistake and asked for counteranalysis, which confirmed the positive. At that point they sent the supplements to a UCI-accredited laboratory, where the tested supplements were indeed found to be contaminated.

Costa also complains that the regulations are a bit ridiculous, that such a positive as this carries the same stigma and punishment as an EPO or CERA positive, and those are things you can only take knowingly, and says he is angry about the whole thing.

This isn't one we've heard the last of... but if what Costa says is true, he and Mario have a lot more of a leg to stand on than Contador with their contamination defence.

 

[hrotha]

Yeah, sounds like they actually have the steak. So, one-year ban?

Like hire Valv.Piti

Now it is clear that it was Rui Costa.

They are all on dope, Caisse, Astana, Saxo, RS, all of them!!!

You might want to take a closer look at my post, maybe you'll notice the quotation marks which should make what I meant fairly obvious.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yeah, sounds like they actually have the steak. So, one-year ban?

That's what the Portuguese speculation seems to suggest is the most likely outcome. Hopefully he and bikepure can come to some peace with one another as it seems that yes, he's let them down, but more out of carelessness than malice.

I'm more inclined to believe him than Contador on the basis that if what he's just said isn't true he's just perjured himself and the lab could sue.

 

[PotentialPro]

or just make bikepure riders give bikepure their bio passport profiles and bp could remove members they are suspicios of .

It was always going to happen one day. Bikepure is an organisation built on trust, that trust was always going to be broken by someone.

Just goes to show you cant bikepure AND livestrong..

That could be an interesting sponsorship tie. To get your paycheck, and other endorsements, you must post your bio passport and other test results out in the open. Maybe even day to day training info from your SRM. If the money is important, and the contract has antidoping clauses, why not be transparent about your tests?

 

[luckyboy]

Everything I came here to say or point out has already been said. So yeah, 1 year ban it is.

I guess it's hard to check everything they ingest, but does make you think how come supplements containing banned substances are available. (That sounds a bit silly reading it back, but I'll leave it if someone wants to put me straight).

 

[canyonball]

I've been reading this forum for more than a year, but never really took the leap to sig in. Being my first post I most thank the posters for the great insight.

News from Portugal aren't that good, as another rider was caught with the same subtance: Joana Barbosa, women XCO U23 national championship. She alledgelly ingested the same arginine-based suplement taken by Rui and Matio Costa.

I'm in the same page as you guy's. At the eyes of the current regulations they should be suspended. Though I disagree with the rules and think that at least a discution should be made within the cycling people to find a solution to this series of cases.

 

[joe_papp]

Bike Pure rehabilitates Costa

or just make bikepure riders give bikepure their bio passport profiles and bp could remove members they are suspicios of .

It was always going to happen one day. Bikepure is an organisation built on trust, that trust was always going to be broken by someone.

Just goes to show you cant bikepure AND livestrong..

I just saw that Bike Pure "reinstated" Costa, so to speak, providing an explanation of their rational for doing so. Now I fully realize that the Clinic is staffed by a jaded and cynical group, but I personally find it refreshing that Bike Pure - a well-intentioned and honorably-led group - sees value in re-evaluating its initial reaction to erase Costa from its membership rolls. As Bike Pure works to establish and maintain both legitimacy and relevancy in the field of shaping public opinion related to anti-doping and cycling, this kind of humility and perspicacity is worthy of note.

 

[issoisso]

As far as the portuguese authorities are concerned, the case is very cut and dried: They believe the brothers when they say they didn't know the supplement was contaminated (as the lab tests on it showed it is), but they're still getting suspended as a rider is responsible for what's found in his body.

They're also considering lowering the suspension to only one year, as WADA advised them to, do due to the fact that there's been a rash of contaminated supplements found lately.