I think the 2008 Tour was the cleanest in the recent history. sastre, evans, kirchen...riders who have put their name on that tour, i kind of trust them. I can say this also in the light of riders who were cheating and get caught, ricco, piepoli, kohl. They won stages and get caught, kohl was third ( he was nobody before, excepting one good dauphine libere), so you can afirm even stronger that the others were mostly clean. Look at 09 Tour...infected! armstrong, that guy who has 60 kilos but wins TT, that guy who only pays advices to fuentes and his brother...dear God....the elite from 08 ...they all finish more than 20 minutes to this 'new' guys. it's sad that ASO accepts this situation.