2011 Criterium du Dauphine - Stage 1: Albertville - Saint-Pierre-de-Chartreuse 144 km

[dlwssonic]

nah degenkolb is too much of a sprinter, this stage is pretty hard, more for the puncheur

 

[Ferminal]

If an improved Freire were to emerge, that would wreak some serious havoc in the peloton.

Anyone see past Degenkolb and Matthews?

I doubt either will be able to climb as well as a top form Freire.

Degenkolb looks to have a very bright future in the cobbled classics, if this season is any indication.

Matthews I think could develop into almost anything, so maybe a future in hilly classics.

Let's not forget other bright stars, like EBH, who it's hard to believe is still only 24, or Sagan, or even Phinney who has won stages as a sprinter and who would still be super if he only managed to achieve half of what he's hyped up to be.

Expect a lot of wins to come from these five, only really missing a GT GC rider.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

What? The LBL of your dreams?


You really do sound like a broken record on that one. Nowadays he's better on the flats than on the climbs, so let's not assume he'll do as well in the hills as he did when he was 20 years old, even when he loses some weight.

I agree he is better on that nowadays, because as I said, he has become bulkier (and thus also heaver).
That still doesn't change the fact he does have talent for the ardennes classics and stage races like that too, and I think in the latter you can achieve more, there are far more high-profile races to win. The cobbled classics are few in number. But Boom loves Flanders and Roubaix too much to ever change i think

 

[dlwssonic]

I doubt either will be able to climb as well as a top form Freire.

Degenkolb looks to have a very bright future in the cobbled classics, if this season is any indication.

Matthews I think could develop into almost anything, so maybe a future in hilly classics.

Let's not forget other bright stars, like EBH, who it's hard to believe is still only 24, or Sagan, or even Phinney who has won stages as a sprinter and who would still be super if he only managed to achieve half of what he's hyped up to be.

Expect a lot of wins to come from these five, only really missing a GT GC rider.

I might not know a lot but how about TJV.

 

[boomcie]

Last year's Degenkolb and Matthews? (name of Peter Sagan)

Whoops. Should definitely have included him. Kind of embarrassing, but I'll live.

 

[Ferminal]

I might not know a lot but how about TJV.

Was more looking at sprinters turning into classics riders.

Anyway, TVJG will be a contender in stage races for many years, and could win a GT, but doesn't stand out as a "mega talent" like the other names.

 

[dlwssonic]

Was more looking at sprinters turning into classics riders.

Anyway, TVJG will be a contender in stage races for many years, and could win a GT, but doesn't stand out as a "mega talent" like the other names.

I was referring to you saying they miss a GT GC rider. Duarte could be another talent for the GT.

 

[Midnightfright]

I can't see degenkolb winning this my money would be on vino and if the sprinters who can climb stick around I would expect ebh to beat him anyway.

 

[Ferminal]

I guess I should say something about the race

BotD:

Sven Vandousselaere (Bel-OLO), Leonardu Duque (Col-COF) et Vincent Jérôme (Fra-EUC) sont passés au km 31 avec une avance de 4’30’’ sur le peloton

On about 40-41km for the first hour.

 

[theyoungest]

Was more looking at sprinters turning into classics riders.

Anyway, TVJG will be a contender in stage races for many years, and could win a GT, but doesn't stand out as a "mega talent" like the other names.

From that generation (1987-1990, which I assume you are talking about, rather randomly) there aren't really any massive GT talents that stand out. Nairo Quintana could be one. Or Steven Kruijswijk

 

[Anonymous]

Livestreams are up and running. Coverage starts in 1 hour. http://bit.ly/eZNtFU

 

[joy118118]

TJVG can do Ardennes well

 

[boomcie]

I guess I should say something about the race

BotD:

Sven Vandousselaere (Bel-OLO), Leonardu Duque (Col-COF) et Vincent Jérôme (Fra-EUC) sont passés au km 31 avec une avance de 4’30’’ sur le peloton

On about 40-41km for the first hour.

Les hommes de tête ont parcouru 46,5 kilomètres dans la première heure de course. (source)

Tailwind apparently.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Broadcast at Eurosport (NL) starts at 15:30, any idea how far they will be from the finish at that point?

 

[python]

the gap to the three escapees is coming down - almost 6 munutes at one point, about 4 mins now. rabo is driving...

 

[Mellow Velo]

Broadcast at Eurosport (NL) starts at 15:30, any idea how far they will be from the finish at that point?

From live updates, I'd guess around 65kms.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

From live updates, I'd guess around 65kms.

You were 500m out.

 

[Havetts]

Eurosport 2 is showing tennis, not cycling on your livestream page TSF .

 

[Mellow Velo]

You were 500m out.

I was indeed!.
Eurosport dive in, but HD stuck at the tennis. Nice route and weather to show off HD, too.
Kirby and Brian Smith...........oh well, nothing is perfect.

 

[Havetts]

Does anyone have an english / dutch stream that works :>?

 

[Anonymous]

just back in.. folks....whats the situation? will the breakaways make it? ..i humbly ask

 

[boomcie]

just back in.. folks....whats the situation? will the breakaways make it? ..i humbly ask

I humbly present:
http://www.letour.fr/2011/CDD/LIVE/us/100/depeches.html

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Eurosport NL still showing tennis

Why the bloody hell do they never keep to their timetables? I really do hate ES sometimes

 

[Havetts]

Same here, damn ES. Who cares about some 100th player on the worldranking vs a 150th player tennis. :<

 

[spalco]

Eurosport NL still showing tennis

Why the bloody hell do they never keep to their timetables? I really do hate ES sometimes

Tennis almost always has precedence over cycling at Eurosport it seems. Even during the Tour except in the most crucial stages.