2011 Tour de France, Stage 12: Cugnaux - Luz-Ardiden, 209 km

[Euskaltel!]

Kadri to survive the longest, hoping he'll go for the KOM. Gutierrez should be a massive help and will be able to stay in front a long time as well. A bit surprised to see G there today.

G will do anything! Classics rider... Sprinter... Lead-out man... Although considering his lovely riposte to ITV last year...

What have you learnt about climbing?
I can't...

I guess we can't hope for too much today...

 

[auscyclefan94]

I am staying away from the forum tonight as i could become a bit abusive

 

[Ferminal]

Won't ever understand Eurosport. Who the **** cares about the last 40km of yesterday? If you couldn't watch yesterday between 4pm and 5 pm, chances are that you won't be able to watch today from 11:30 to 12:30 anyway...

Just a filler I guess, host broadcast doesn't start for another 30mins.

 

[just some guy]

weather is changing re wind

Meteo

Stage 12 : Cugnaux to Luz Start : Sunny. In the afternoon, sunny intervals in the valley, fog the top Tourmalet, little shower at Luz.
At the end of the stage and for the passes, scattered showers are likely. Winds : Light from north before mountain. Windy by breezes 30/40 km/h in the valley. Temperatures : Plain : : 20/22 degrees. Hourquette : 9 degrees Tourmalet : 6 degrees Luz : 10 degrees

 

[spalco]

I can't believe how much attention a second-rate-at-best rider like Evans gets in this forum. Hopefully that topic is finished in approximately 6 hours.

 

[Ferminal]

Average speed break: 44kmh
Average speed peloton: 38.57kmh.

 

[sultanofhyd]

Don't carrots have any other rider to send up the road than Perez Moreno? Guess he wasn't tired yesterday. Oh well.

 

[Ferminal]

I can't believe how much attention a second-rate-at-best rider like Evans gets in this forum. Hopefully that topic is finished in approximately 6 hours.

Just because he isn't a top10 climber doesn't make him second rate.

In that case, Andy Schleck is second rate because he can't time trial. Contador second rate because he can't sprint. Cavendish second rate because he's afraid of uphill gradients.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I can't believe how much attention a second-rate-at-best rider like Evans gets in this forum. Hopefully that topic is finished in approximately 6 hours.

A second rate rider? Wow...just wow!

 

[AussieGoddess]

On this I agree with you ACF - Evans is definitely a top contender. He gets the attention here because he is a definite chance this year.

Not sure how much my opinion will count though - I must be the only one here who thinks that Contador will come to play today, and will get some time back on everyone

 

[b.broadhurst]

I can't believe how much attention a second-rate-at-best rider like Evans gets in this forum. Hopefully that topic is finished in approximately 6 hours.

Not a Cadel fan then?

The guy has 7 top 10 finishes in grand tours, he has won the world champs, la fleche wallone, tirreno-adriatico and tour de romandie.

Please explain how is he second-rate?

 

[spalco]

Just because he isn't a top10 climber doesn't make him second rate.

In that case, Andy Schleck is second rate because he can't time trial. Contador second rate because he can't sprint. Cavendish second rate because he's afraid of uphill gradients.

He's 34 and has never won a GT. For a rider who aims at winning big stage races that's not a winner. I'm also very dubious about putting Andy in the "first rate" category yet, until he actually starts winning stuff.

 

[sultanofhyd]

Not a Cadel fan then?

The guy has 7 top 10 finishes in grand tours, he has won the world champs, la fleche wallone, tirreno-adriatico and tour de romandie.

Please explain how is he second-rate?

He cries

 

[b.broadhurst]

On this I agree with you ACF - Evans is definitely a top contender. He gets the attention here because he is a definite chance this year.

Not sure how much my opinion will count though - I must be the only one here who thinks that Contador will come to play today, and will get some time back on everyone

Contador will go hard today and definitely get time back, i'm a strong believer of this!!

 

[just some guy]

I can't believe how much attention a second-rate-at-best rider like Evans gets in this forum. Hopefully that topic is finished in approximately 6 hours.

Who do you claim are 1st rate of the current riders then ?

 

[Scirea]

A second rate rider? Wow...just wow!

So staying away ended already?

 

[auscyclefan94]

He's 34 and has never won a GT. For a rider who aims at winning big stage races that's not a winner. I'm also very dubious about putting Andy in the "first rate" category yet, until he actually starts winning stuff.

That does not make him 2nd rate....

 

[Sørensen]

Nobody will help Leopard because nobody likes leopard and there hypocracy!!

Gerrans said yesterday he would be cheering for his not so good friend Evans, because Schleks and Leopard are acting like a bunch of cnuts without having any results to back it up.

Also Samuel Sanchez when asked this morning, admitted with a smile on his face that he would help Contador today.

 

[El Pistolero]

He's a second rate GC rider since 2009.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Gerrans said yesterday he would be cheering for his not so good friend Evans, because Schleks and Leopard are acting like a bunch of cnuts without having any results to back it up.

Also Samuel Sanchez when asked this morning, admitted with a smile on his face that he would help Contador today.

Did Gerrans really say that?

 

[b.broadhurst]

He's a second rate GC rider since 2009.

3rd in Vuelta in 2009 and 5th in Giro in 2010 - this isn't second rate!!

 

[just some guy]

Gerrans said yesterday he would be cheering for his not so good friend Evans, because Schleks and Leopard are acting like a bunch of cnuts without having any results to back it up.

Also Samuel Sanchez when asked this morning, admitted with a smile on his face that he would help Contador today.

do you have the exact quote -

 

[Anonymous]

I think Spalco only said that amazing statement to keep ACF on the forum.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Don't know if this has been posted somewhere before, but Riis says Contador is going to win today.

 

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a shame that Pereiro isn't riding anymore, he'd show Evans every day that a 1st rate rider ist made of sterner stuff