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Ryo Hazuki

Ryo Hazuki

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Spine Concept said:
Dropping Kruiswijk hardly constitutes being a supertalent.
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no but winning the tour of the avenir at age 20 is, besides kruiswijk was with the 20 best in the giro last year so
 
hrotha

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Spine Concept said:
Dropping Kruiswijk hardly constitutes being a supertalent.
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The guy's 21, this is his first race in Europe in a long time, and he dropped guys like Kruijswijk, Hoogerland and Peterson, interesting folks who certainly can climb. Of course he hasn't done much yet in this race, but it's a sign that aligns pretty well with what we knew about him already.

Ryo, any official word on why he was dropped last Monday? It looks like his climbing wasn't a problem. Any crashes or punctures? Caught in a split? Took it easy on purpose?
 
Spine Concept

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Ryo Hazuki said:
no but winning the tour of the avenir at age 20 is
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We are not talking about the tour de l'avenir now are we? There's no way that reference could have been derived from your original statement. Anyway, I have nothing against him, he's a big talent no doubt.
 
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So do we think Quintana will fall off or has JJ Haedo fulfilled our daily quota for South American crashes?
 
Ryo Hazuki

Ryo Hazuki

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hrotha said:
The guy's 21, this is his first race in Europe in a long time, and he dropped guys like Kruijswijk, Hoogerland and Peterson, interesting folks who certainly can climb. Of course he hasn't done much yet in this race, but it's a sign that aligns pretty well with what we knew about him already.

Ryo, any official word on why he was dropped last Monday? It looks like his climbing wasn't a problem. Any crashes or punctures? Caught in a split? Took it easy on purpose?
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I haven't heard anything official yet I hope tonight but I think it had to do with that the climb wasn't too steep and quintana is very vulnerable in the flat or 4-5% climbs when there's a lot of speed, he might've been hold up by dropping riders. I don't know yet. this is pure learning for him but he has incredible raw talent. now it's up to atapuma let;'s hope :)
 
Spine Concept

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hrotha said:
The guy's 21, this is his first race in Europe in a long time, and he dropped guys like Kruijswijk, Hoogerland and Peterson, interesting folks who certainly can climb. Of course he hasn't done much yet in this race, but it's a sign that aligns pretty well with what we knew about him already.

Ryo, any official word on why he was dropped last Monday? It looks like his climbing wasn't a problem. Any crashes or punctures? Caught in a split? Took it easy on purpose?
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That's beside the point and not worth getting into. Aside from that, I see what you are trying to say and I agree to a certain extent.
 
Ryo Hazuki

Ryo Hazuki

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Spine Concept said:
We are not talking about the tour de l'avenir now are we? There's no way that reference could have been derived from your original statement. Anyway, I have nothing against him, he's a big talent no doubt.
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to me he's a supertalent and he drops kruiswijk and all others to em it's a showing again, you have no idea appearantly that hoogerland, peterson (who is so hyped here) and kruiswijk are good climbers
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
to me he's a supertalent and he drops kruiswijk and all others to em it's a showing again, you have no idea appearantly that hoogerland, peterson (who is so hyped here) and kruiswijk are good climbers
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Well that's good for you. To me, he's a big talent. Not a supertalent. However that might be because I haven't seen enough of him to make a proper assessment. Furthermore, that was quite a presumptuous statement about my lack of awareness of the climbing capabilities of Kruiswijk and Hoogerland. However, I feel that's a recurring theme with you so I'm not getting into that. Anyway, Hoogerland nor Kruiswijk have shown great form (nor should they, yet) up to this point and thus is not a good enough parameter to gauge on. We'll have to leave it at that.
 
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