2011 Vuelta a Espana Stage 10: Salamanca ITT, 47km (28/9)

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Problem is for Sky that at some point when there are 15 or so riders left one of them will have to work for the other to pull back attacks especially as Froome is in the lead.

A bit like stage 9. Do they share the work load evenly then or hope someone else/some other team works?

I believe as things stand now, this question will be answered only by the performance of the day. If only 15 riders are left, Froome struggels and only Wiggins was left to help him, I definitly think Wiggins would go on and Froome would struggel alone. The same works for the reverse situation.
They are only seperated by some secons and whoever is best should be let go.

 

[roundabout]

I believe as things stand now, this question will be answered only by the performance of the day. If only 15 riders are left, Froome struggels and only Wiggins was left to help him, I definitly think Wiggins would go on and Froome would struggel alone. The same works for the reverse situation.
They are only seperated by some secons and whoever is best should be let go.

Yes, if one of them is definitely stronger than the other than it's certainly settled and there will be no waiting. However what if they remain equally strong but say Nibali attacks again?

 

[just some guy]

Problem is for Sky that at some point when there are 15 or so riders left one of them will have to work for the other to pull back attacks especially as Froome is in the lead.

A bit like stage 9. Do they share the work load evenly then or hope someone else/some other team works?

Froome has red and gets a new contract and works for Brad pretty simple me thinks

 

[Fergoose]

Actually that is untrue. If Menchov reaches his old performance level in the mountains most of those riders won't need to fail to have him pass them. They'll just don't have to make miracle performances. Of course we don't know if this form isever coming back for Menchov, but in case it does you'll see him take minutes out of most guys infront of him on the Angrilu.
Adding to that he's always been a very strong rider to win out of small groups in MTF, or get a Top 3 placing.
So if indeed he has good form, this is far from being over for him and his podium chances.
The only thing I really doubt is that he indeed has this form.

Which is infact the very foundation of my argument. If he had that form, he wouldn't be sitting in 13th in such a mediocre field. If his form hasn't appeared in the past 10 stages, he's not going to suddenly wake up with the form that is required to defeat 12 other riders single handedly in mountain top finishes.

 

[roundabout]

I think after the first 10 stages Froome has more options than just Sky. Maybe he knows that they helped him develop into what he is now so that will make him stay.

 

[hatcher]

I think after the first 10 stages Froome has more options than just Sky. Maybe he knows that they helped him develop into what he is now so that will make him stay.

A team could definitely overpay him if they rate him only on the last 10 days.

I'm not really sure why Sky haven't offered him a new contract yet, as they definitely do rate him as a rider, and a potentially very good one. In the end I see him staying where he is, but he should have earned himself a nice payrise.

 

[maltiv]

A team could definitely overpay him if they rate him only on the last 10 days.

I'm not really sure why Sky haven't offered him a new contract yet, as they definitely do rate him as a rider, and a potentially very good one. In the end I see him staying where he is, but he should have earned himself a nice payrise.

A team like GreenEdge could potentially dish out quite a lot of money to get him, in a desperate attempt to actually get some sort of GC rider. However Sky should obviously do all they can to keep him on their team as he's british and could continue to develop. I find it highly surprising that they didn't already renew his contract in the first place, considering his strong riding in TdS and Romandie.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

So far he hasn't shown he can win anything. So how can he get bonus seconds and limit his losses at the same time? I can easily write him off. The only rider with 2 min. or more down on GC who can do anything is Purito.

By being 2nd or 3rd, and limiting his losses to those who come 1st and 2nd, of course. It is predicated on those coming ahead of him being behind him on GC of course.

I would not be surprised at all to see Menchov take time out of Wiggins when it's steep... I'm just not sure where he's going to take time out of Nibali.

 

[virandociclista]

Good ride from Chris Anker Sorensen.

3.35 minutes down on Martin.

Sitting now 20th place overall. I hope he can post a solid top20 by the time we get to Madrid. Ah and a stage win

What do you thing about Sergio Pardilla Belllón?!

This guy did a great ride... 15 place overall!!

He said this when asked who was his idol in cycling: "No tengo ídolos en esto del ciclismo. Sólo soy fan de los corredores sufridores como yo".

 

[maxmartin]

Wiggins crack big time on Wednesday

This Vuelta is going crazy love it -two Brits in Contention along with Fuglsang & Nibali fighting their way up to the GC-damn I can't wait for next Wednesday & the beginning of the "real test" when the insane gradients decide who's the best

 

[trevim]

What do you thing about Sergio Pardilla Belllón?!

This guy did a great ride... 15 place overall!!

He said this when asked who was his idol in cycling: "No tengo ídolos en esto del ciclismo. Sólo soy fan de los corredores sufridores como yo".

I didn't noticed that one. I just wonder if he has enough to keep it up 2 more weeks.

 

[jens_attacks]

pardilla is good no doubt.he was battling out last year with palmeiras in portugal and with riccardo ricco in austria.very good performances,at the moment he's better than bruseghin.

 

[icefire]

pardilla is good no doubt.he was battling out last year with palmeiras in portugal and with riccardo ricco in austria.very good performances,at the moment he's better than bruseghin.

He's been better than Bruseghin in the mountains, but he's now behind on GC after the ITT.

 

[jens_attacks]

He's been better than Bruseghin in the mountains, but he's now behind on GC after the ITT.

angliru will decide it.
anyway bruseghin season's was big time affected by the problems with the cops,they ruined him most part of it...still he's not going bad here.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Bruiser is ahead thanks to the ITT, but Pardilla is a better climber on better form. He was attacking on La Covatilla, and I would definitely not be surprised to see him crack the top 10; however, he rode the Giro as a domestique, and apart from that we haven't seen him at any race longer than the Volta a Portugal, though he was very good there. He only weighs about 56kg, so you'd have to expect that to be something of an advantage in some of the stages to come.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Which is infact the very foundation of my argument. If he had that form, he wouldn't be sitting in 13th in such a mediocre field. If his form hasn't appeared in the past 10 stages, he's not going to suddenly wake up with the form that is required to defeat 12 other riders single handedly in mountain top finishes.

He lost a lot of time earlier due to a mechanical. About 1:30 it was I believe. For the last stages his performances haven't been bad. And usually hardness and length helps him. So we'll see. I haven't given up on him already.

 

[daveinzambia]

Fantastic day to be a sky fan

although have to say my favourite to win is Nibali. think Brad needs a minute on him with the number of mountain stages to come and worry that on past form Froome will explode badly at some point next week.

Will be interesting to see who controls things now. Sky will be keen to allow riders down the road to absorb those time bonuses.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Just found out that it was Taylor Phinney's longest tt he's ever done. Quite impressive result imo. The heat would also be a lot different than he would of experienced in the past so considering all that and that it's his first gt his result was quite good.

 

[profff]

And he's just about the nicest guy you could ever meet.

If you spoke to the British Cycling guys (among others) 3 or so years ago they would have told you Froome was destined to be a grand tour GC rider. He's had a run of injuries, and it hasn't happened for him, but he's still only 26.

he was quite impressing, if i correctly remember on mont faraon in 2009 tour med, tracking soler and moncoutie' and finishing third.
he was announced as the next big thing, but then 2010 was horrible season, doing very badly especially in giro , in the mountains.

i admit that in the past he showed some potential as a climber and tt, but that fade.
now it looks like that potential has come back.
may be , it is just a question of health and training without injuries, may be it a clinic argument.
anyway interesting to see what he will be able to do in the next days..

 

[guncha]

It is good they put long ITT in the middle of the race. It is good for racing when strongest ITT specialists can get an advantage because it will force climbers to attack them. The race is still open and many contenders are left. I am looking for fireworks in coming stages.

Giro can make MTFs almost every day but the route will suck if there is no long ITT. AC was the best this year and ITT would not change much but I am sure that in equal field ITT should make the selection.

 

[greenedge]

Congrats to Martin. The idea of British gaining at Salamanca continues with dogged riding ( just like the Duke of Wellington against Napoleon's marshals )

 

[Climbing]

It is good they put long ITT in the middle of the race. It is good for racing when strongest ITT specialists can get an advantage because it will force climbers to attack them. The race is still open and many contenders are left. I am looking for fireworks in coming stages.

Giro can make MTFs almost every day but the route will suck if there is no long ITT. AC was the best this year and ITT would not change much but I am sure that in equal field ITT should make the selection.

A long ITT is needed in any GT I agree.
In Giro 2011 that would have only made it 10 minutes for AC.