2013 Jayco Herald Sun Tour - January 3rd to 6th

[auscyclefan94]

2013 Jayco Herald Sun Tour - January 3rd to 6th

Prologue route
Stage 1 route
Stage 2 route
Stage 3 route

Most of these stages are starting around 5:30pm and finishing around 8-8:30pm. Bizarre. I think they are doing that so they can run the Bay series in conjunction with the race. The race has been completely butchered in my opinion.

Startlist
1 Jayco Australian National Team (AUS)
Team Manager Dave SANDERS AUS 1954 1112
1 Nathan HAAS AUS 1989 0312
2 Simon CLARKE AUS 1986 0718
3 Simon GERRANS AUS 1980 0516
4 Matthew GOSS AUS 1986 1105
5 Jay McCARTHY AUS 1992 0908 U23
6 Stuart O'GRADY AUS 1973 0806

2 Grays Online New Zealand National Team (NZL)
Team Manager Jerard STOCK NZL
11 Josh ATKINS NZL 1992 0628
12 Wesley GOUGH NZL 1988 0504
13 Greg HENDERSON NZL 1976 0910
14 Mike NORTHY NZL 1987 0324
15 James ORAM NZL 1993 0617 U23
16 Tom SCULLY NZL 1990 0114

3 Great Britain National Team (GBR)
Team Manager Keith LAMBERT GBR 1947 0612
21 Simon YATES GBR 1992 0807 U23
22 Alistair SLATER GBR 1993 0211 U23
23 Samuel LOWE GBR 1994 0120 U23
24 Christopher LATHAM GBR 1994 0206 U23
25 Richard LANG GBR 1989 0223
26 Graham BRIGGS GBR 1983 0714

4 Rapha Condor JLT (GBR)
Team Manager John HERETY GBR 1958 0308
31 Kristian HOUSE GBR 1979 1006
32 Richard HANDLEY GBR 1990 0901
33 Aaron BUGGLE IRL 1990 1016
34 Luke GRIVELL-MELLOR GBR 1993 0209 U23
35 Felix ENGLISH IRL 1992 1011 U23
36 Michael CUMING GBR 1990 1218

5 Huon Salmon-Genesys Wealth Advisers (AUS)
Team Manager Andrew CHRISTIE-JOHNSON AUS
41 Anthony GIACOPPO AUS 150022
42 Jai CRAWFORD AUS 123317
43 Nathan EARLE AUS 124171
44 Aaron DONNELLY AUS 134221 U23
45 Pat SHAW AUS 301871
46 Joseph COOPER NZL 735405

6 Drapac Cycling (AUS)
Team Manager Agostino GIRAMONDO
51 Darren LAPTHORNE AUS
52 Wil WALKER AUS
53 Bernard SULZBERGER AUS
54 Robbie HUCKER AUS
55 Rhys POLLOCK AUS
56 TBA AUS

7 Team Budget Forklifts (AUS)
Team Manager Cameron WATT AUS
61 Michael CULPITT AUS 122326
62 Sam HORGAN AUS 735255
63 Marc WILLIAMS AUS 126386
64 Jack ANDERSON AUS 132122
65 Karl EVANS AUS 129733
66 Shaun McCARTHY AUS 134245

8 GPM Data#3 (AUS)
Team Manager Trent WILSON AUS
71 Chris JORY AUS 1987 0312
72 Joseph LEWIS AUS 1989 0113
73 Scott LAW AUS 1991 0309 U23
74 Sam RUTHERFORD AUS 1982 0316
75 Josh TAYLOR AUS 1991 0721 U23
76 Edward WHITE AUS 1988 0807

9 Target Trek Racing Team (AUS)
Team Manager Murray CRAWFORD AUS 300865
81 James BOAL AUS 147501 U23
82 Rowan DEVER AUS 831201
83 Oliver KENT SPARK AUS 143800 U23
84 Steven DEL GALLO AUS 151869 U23
85 Brock ROBERTS AUS 149514
86 Nathan ELLIOTT AUS 147137

10 search2retain p/b health.com.au (AUS)
Team Manager Peter SHANDON AUS
91 Cameron BAYLY AUS 134909
92 Cal BRITTEN AUS 124569
93 Luke FETCH AUS 148885
94 Neil VAN DER PLOEG AUS 303958
95 Thomas DONALD AUS 150700
96 Stuart SMITH AUS 305103 U23

11 SASI Cycling p/b Feelgood Fitness (AUS)
Team Manager Tim DECKER AUS
101 Zak DEMPSTER AUS 196078
102 Mark O'BRIEN AUS 301370
103 Luke DAVISON AUS 121423
104 Alex EDMONSON AUS 139994 U23
105 Sam WITMITZ AUS 303010
106 Fraser NORTHEY AUS 151786 U23

12 Pro Team Down Under (AUS)
Team Manager Garry ELLIOTT
111 Stuart MULHERN AUS
112 Nick WOODS AUS
113 Mathew MARSHALL AUS
114 Jayden COPP AUS
115 Sean WHITFIELD AUS
116 Luke WILLIAMS AUS

13 Jayco VIS Apollo (AUS)
Team Manager Scott McGRORY
121 Julian DEAN NZL
122 Patrick LANE AUS U23
123 Calvin WATSON AUS U23
124 Lachlan NORRIS AUS
125 Thomas HAMILTON AUS U23
126 Jack HAIG AUS U23

14 Team Polygon Australia (AUS)
Team Manager Nigel BAKER
131 Ben GRENDA AUS
132 Sam McCALLUM AUS
133 Joel STEARNES AUS
134 Jack MATTHEWS AUS
135 Jake McMAHON AUS
136 Oliver MARTIN AUS

15 Suzuki - Bontrager (AUS)
Team Manager John FORREST AUS 1971 1121
141 Stuart SHAW AUS 1977 1119
142 Dean WINDSOR AUS 1986 0909
143 Mitchell LOVELOCK-FAY AUS 1992 0112 U23
144 Jordan KERBY AUS 1992 0815 U23
145 Brendan JOHNSTON AUS 1991 1125 U23
146 Dan McCONNELL AUS 1985 0809

16 Satalyst Giant Racing Team (AUS)
Team Manager Wayne EVANS AUS 115793
151 Peter SMITH AUS 137645
152 Asron SLAVIK AUS 154705
153 Alexander SMYTHE AUS 304889
154 Henry MORLEY AUS 200531
155 Geoff STRAUB AUS 128501
156 Alexander MALONE AUS 122429

17 Degani Bakery Café World Tour Academy Team (AUS)
Team Manager David McPARTLAND AUS 1980 0911
161 Jack BECKINSALE AUS 1993 0527 U23
162 Alex CLEMENTS AUS 1993 1103 U23
163 Campbell FLAKEMORE AUS 1992 0806 U23
164 Damien HOWSON AUS 1992 0813 U23
165 Bradley LINFIELD AUS 1994 0629
166 Adam PHELAN AUS 1991 0823 U23

18 Total Rush - Hyster Racing (AUS)
Team Manager Simon COFFIN
171 Tom LEAPER AUS 301231
172 Michael CROSBY AUS 160360
173 Jason SPENCER AUS 145618
174 Ryan MACANALLY AUS 127328
175 Shannon JOHNSON AUS 167903
176 David KELLY AUS 170532

 

[Froome19]

Actually there is a provisional startlist and it has been out for a while already..

http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/jayco-herald-sun-tour-3-6-jan/msg77349/#msg77349

 

[auscyclefan94]

Actually there is a provisional startlist and it has been out for a while already..

http://velorooms.com/mens-road-cycling/jayco-herald-sun-tour-3-6-jan/msg77349/#msg77349

Thanks, but see dimspace blocked all access for just my computer to that website because I criticised his forum. Therefore, I am going to need another link.

 

[Froome19]

Well, I do not believe he blocked all access.. just for your account I think. So could you not see it as a guest?

Anyways it was posted by a Genesys rider and I do not know where he obtained the startlist from but to copy and past:

1 Jayco Australian National Team (AUS)
Team Manager Dave SANDERS AUS 1954 1112
1 Nathan HAAS AUS 1989 0312
2 Simon CLARKE AUS 1986 0718
3 Simon GERRANS AUS 1980 0516
4 Matthew GOSS AUS 1986 1105
5 Jay McCARTHY AUS 1992 0908 U23
6 Stuart O'GRADY AUS 1973 0806

2 Grays Online New Zealand National Team (NZL)
Team Manager Jerard STOCK NZL
11 Josh ATKINS NZL 1992 0628
12 Wesley GOUGH NZL 1988 0504
13 Greg HENDERSON NZL 1976 0910
14 Mike NORTHY NZL 1987 0324
15 James ORAM NZL 1993 0617 U23
16 Tom SCULLY NZL 1990 0114

3 Great Britain National Team (GBR)
Team Manager Keith LAMBERT GBR 1947 0612
21 Simon YATES GBR 1992 0807 U23
22 Alistair SLATER GBR 1993 0211 U23
23 Samuel LOWE GBR 1994 0120 U23
24 Christopher LATHAM GBR 1994 0206 U23
25 Richard LANG GBR 1989 0223
26 Graham BRIGGS GBR 1983 0714

4 Rapha Condor JLT (GBR)
Team Manager John HERETY GBR 1958 0308
31 Kristian HOUSE GBR 1979 1006
32 Richard HANDLEY GBR 1990 0901
33 Aaron BUGGLE IRL 1990 1016
34 Luke GRIVELL-MELLOR GBR 1993 0209 U23
35 Felix ENGLISH IRL 1992 1011 U23
36 Michael CUMING GBR 1990 1218

5 Huon Salmon-Genesys Wealth Advisers (AUS)
Team Manager Andrew CHRISTIE-JOHNSON AUS
41 Anthony GIACOPPO AUS 150022
42 Jai CRAWFORD AUS 123317
43 Nathan EARLE AUS 124171
44 Aaron DONNELLY AUS 134221 U23
45 Pat SHAW AUS 301871
46 Joseph COOPER NZL 735405

6 Drapac Cycling (AUS)
Team Manager Agostino GIRAMONDO
51 Darren LAPTHORNE AUS
52 Wil WALKER AUS
53 Bernard SULZBERGER AUS
54 Robbie HUCKER AUS
55 Rhys POLLOCK AUS
56 TBA AUS

7 Team Budget Forklifts (AUS)
Team Manager Cameron WATT AUS
61 Michael CULPITT AUS 122326
62 Sam HORGAN AUS 735255
63 Marc WILLIAMS AUS 126386
64 Jack ANDERSON AUS 132122
65 Karl EVANS AUS 129733
66 Shaun McCARTHY AUS 134245

8 GPM Data#3 (AUS)
Team Manager Trent WILSON AUS
71 Chris JORY AUS 1987 0312
72 Joseph LEWIS AUS 1989 0113
73 Scott LAW AUS 1991 0309 U23
74 Sam RUTHERFORD AUS 1982 0316
75 Josh TAYLOR AUS 1991 0721 U23
76 Edward WHITE AUS 1988 0807

9 Target Trek Racing Team (AUS)
Team Manager Murray CRAWFORD AUS 300865
81 James BOAL AUS 147501 U23
82 Rowan DEVER AUS 831201
83 Oliver KENT SPARK AUS 143800 U23
84 Steven DEL GALLO AUS 151869 U23
85 Brock ROBERTS AUS 149514
86 Nathan ELLIOTT AUS 147137

10 search2retain p/b health.com.au (AUS)
Team Manager Peter SHANDON AUS
91 Cameron BAYLY AUS 134909
92 Cal BRITTEN AUS 124569
93 Luke FETCH AUS 148885
94 Neil VAN DER PLOEG AUS 303958
95 Thomas DONALD AUS 150700
96 Stuart SMITH AUS 305103 U23

11 SASI Cycling p/b Feelgood Fitness (AUS)
Team Manager Tim DECKER AUS
101 Zak DEMPSTER AUS 196078
102 Mark O'BRIEN AUS 301370
103 Luke DAVISON AUS 121423
104 Alex EDMONSON AUS 139994 U23
105 Sam WITMITZ AUS 303010
106 Fraser NORTHEY AUS 151786 U23

12 Pro Team Down Under (AUS)
Team Manager Garry ELLIOTT
111 Stuart MULHERN AUS
112 Nick WOODS AUS
113 Mathew MARSHALL AUS
114 Jayden COPP AUS
115 Sean WHITFIELD AUS
116 Luke WILLIAMS AUS

13 Jayco VIS Apollo (AUS)
Team Manager Scott McGRORY
121 Julian DEAN NZL
122 Patrick LANE AUS U23
123 Calvin WATSON AUS U23
124 Lachlan NORRIS AUS
125 Thomas HAMILTON AUS U23
126 Jack HAIG AUS U23

14 Team Polygon Australia (AUS)
Team Manager Nigel BAKER
131 Ben GRENDA AUS
132 Sam McCALLUM AUS
133 Joel STEARNES AUS
134 Jack MATTHEWS AUS
135 Jake McMAHON AUS
136 Oliver MARTIN AUS

15 Suzuki - Bontrager (AUS)
Team Manager John FORREST AUS 1971 1121
141 Stuart SHAW AUS 1977 1119
142 Dean WINDSOR AUS 1986 0909
143 Mitchell LOVELOCK-FAY AUS 1992 0112 U23
144 Jordan KERBY AUS 1992 0815 U23
145 Brendan JOHNSTON AUS 1991 1125 U23
146 Dan McCONNELL AUS 1985 0809

16 Satalyst Giant Racing Team (AUS)
Team Manager Wayne EVANS AUS 115793
151 Peter SMITH AUS 137645
152 Asron SLAVIK AUS 154705
153 Alexander SMYTHE AUS 304889
154 Henry MORLEY AUS 200531
155 Geoff STRAUB AUS 128501
156 Alexander MALONE AUS 122429

17 Degani Bakery Café World Tour Academy Team (AUS)
Team Manager David McPARTLAND AUS 1980 0911
161 Jack BECKINSALE AUS 1993 0527 U23
162 Alex CLEMENTS AUS 1993 1103 U23
163 Campbell FLAKEMORE AUS 1992 0806 U23
164 Damien HOWSON AUS 1992 0813 U23
165 Bradley LINFIELD AUS 1994 0629
166 Adam PHELAN AUS 1991 0823 U23

18 Total Rush - Hyster Racing (AUS)
Team Manager Simon COFFIN
171 Tom LEAPER AUS 301231
172 Michael CROSBY AUS 160360
173 Jason SPENCER AUS 145618
174 Ryan MACANALLY AUS 127328
175 Shannon JOHNSON AUS 167903
176 David KELLY AUS 170532

 

[auscyclefan94]

Well, I do not believe he blocked all access.. just for your account I think. So could you not see it as a guest?

Anyways it was posted by a Genesys rider and I do not know where he obtained the startlist from but to copy and past:

Well, whenever I try to access the website, it comes up with this message:

Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
Public critisism of forum and its members referring to them as children. Against forum rules.
This ban is not set to expire.

Just a coincidence that he refers to "public criticism" on the page? I think not. Also rather pathetic that he blocks me on twitter all of a sudden. I can't see the site as a guest either on my computer yet I can when I access it through my iPhone. I will send you the messages that he regards as 'public criticism'.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1081427&postcount=7

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1081811&postcount=24

Dimspace had no problem making jibes against CN Forum yet when someone criticises something he made, the authoritarian rule seems to come into play for Dimspace due to his intolerance to criticism.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Epic spelling.

 

[Wilba60]

2013 Jayco Herald Sun Tour - January 3rd to 6th

Most of these stages are starting around 5:30pm and finishing around 8-8:30pm. Bizarre. I think they are doing that so they can run the Bay series in conjunction with the race. The race has been completely butchered in my opinion.

Hope they don't have any delays and finish in the dark ;-)

Interesting to see that startlist, they must have some good intel as it looked like the starting lists would filter out through the Herald Sun. Interesting to see Edmondson move from the OGE team at Bay Crits and into the SASI squad and Julian Dean having an early season ride in the Jayco team. Thought Matty Lloyd might have been riding in this race but doesn't appear in the provisional start list. Would that be due to rules around WT riders or Lampre not wanting him to do the race?

 

[Wilba60]

I see the prologue is a late start due to the Bay Crits finish a bit earlier. The other late stage is the final one up Arthurs Seat. It is a Sunday, so maybe they are thinking it will attract a bigger crowd after everyone has done their holiday beach things and other sporting attractions that may be on??? I would rather go down during the day and not have a longish drive home on Sunday night but the Peninsula holiday crowd might find it something interesting to do for the evening.

Thursday, 3 January 2013

Prologue – 4.8km

Williamstown

5:00pm to 7:00pm

Friday, 4 January 2013

Stage 1 – 144km

Sunbury to Bendigo

11:30am to 3:00pm*

Saturday, 5 January 2013

Stage 2 – 145km

Mitchelton to Healesville

11:30am to 3:00pm*

Sunday, 6 January 2013

Stage 3 – 90km

Moonah Links to Arthurs Seat

5:30pm to 8:00pm*

 

[TheGame]

Dimspace had no problem making jibes against CN Forum yet when someone criticises something he made, the authoritarian rule seems to come into play for Dimspace due to his intolerance to criticism.

My understanding is: He banned you once for starting countless arguments (as discussed in the thread you linked to) but didn't actually ban you, he just put you on moderated posting and removed your chatroom access so you could still post, just not troll the race chats. And then when you started calling the members children, and claiming your disruption as "debate" he banned you. Seems fair enough. Sure he didn't intentionally block you completely, even banned members should be able to browse without being logged in.

You need to grow up dude. Don't know why he blocked you on twitter, not sure why he even followed you. I blocked you ages ago. Why don't you try contact the guy instead of moaning about him here?

 

[auscyclefan94]

My understanding is: He banned you once for starting countless arguments (as discussed in the thread you linked to) but didn't actually ban you, he just put you on moderated posting and removed your chatroom access so you could still post, just not troll the race chats. And then when you started calling the members children, and claiming your disruption as "debate" he banned you. Seems fair enough. Sure he didn't intentionally block you completely, even banned members should be able to browse without being logged in.

You need to grow up dude. Don't know why he blocked you on twitter, not sure why he even followed you. I blocked you ages ago. Why don't you try contact the guy instead of moaning about him here?

As I explained in the other thread, you have so many of the facts wrong. Clearly, I would have a greater grasp of what happened because I was involved and you were not. Secondly, most of the conversation was done in private, so I am amused to know how you seem to know the facts of what happened. Even if what you say is true, why block me on twitter and create a specific page for me to be blocked on Velorooms? I think my aforementioned post explains how he intentionally went out of his way to block me. Finally, It is a bit hard to contact him when all avenues of contact to him are blocked.

Before you go shooting your mouth, get the facts right, moron!

 

[TheGame]

As I explained in the other thread, you have so many of the facts wrong. Clearly, I would have a greater grasp of what happened because I was involved and you were not. Secondly, most of the conversation was done in private, so I am amused to know how you seem to know the facts of what happened. Even if what you say is true, why block me on twitter and create a specific page for me to be blocked on Velorooms? I think my aforementioned post explains how he intentionally went out of his way to block me. Finally, It is a bit hard to contact him when all avenues of contact to him are blocked.

Before you go shooting your mouth, get the facts right, moron!

A specific page? ROFL I doubt it. More likely that if someone is banned they get redirected to a default page that displays the reason for their ban. Very much doubt any mod/admin would be bothered to create a special page for anyone, not even you.

Anyway, enough, I'm doubtless going to receive my second warning just for humoring you.

 

[auscyclefan94]

A specific page? ROFL I doubt it. More likely that if someone is banned they get redirected to a default page that displays the reason for their ban. Very much doubt any mod/admin would be bothered to create a special page for anyone, not even you.

Anyway, enough, I'm doubtless going to receive my second warning just for humoring you.

Sigh. Take my advice and read what the page said. I posted it earlier in this thread.

 

[TheGame]

Sigh. Take my advice and read what the page said. I posted it earlier in this thread.

I did, and as explained, it sounds like a default forum page that you get when you are banned and it just inserts the reason from the database that holds the ban details. Even Dimspace isn't so petty than to build a whole page for you. Get over it.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I did, and as explained, it sounds like a default forum page that you get when you are banned and it just inserts the reason from the database that holds the ban details. Even Dimspace isn't so petty than to build a whole page for you. Get over it.

Meh, I don't see how that could be a coincidence that a page comes up which bans a member for speaking against a forum member calling them childish. Again, do you really believe that the specific nature of that ban is on a database? I think not.

It is good to see that you are finally acknowledging that you do not know what really happened, which is indicative of you not being present or have being able to read any of the posts I made.

 

[Old School]

This topic is waaaaay out there.....i dunno Dimspace....so, he running this bike race? He a promoter? IF not, he's getting GREAT publicity!

 

[Tigerion]

I see the prologue is a late start due to the Bay Crits finish a bit earlier. The other late stage is the final one up Arthurs Seat. It is a Sunday, so maybe they are thinking it will attract a bigger crowd after everyone has done their holiday beach things and other sporting attractions that may be on??? I would rather go down during the day and not have a longish drive home on Sunday night but the Peninsula holiday crowd might find it something interesting to do for the evening.

So it's only the prologue and the last stage that have different times. Connecting with the bay city crits makes sense and I guess what you are suggesting about the holiday crowd makes sense. I am kinda interested to go down for the last day but will be a matter of what transport is like down there and if the are planning on running extra buses or something that late.

I'm guessing no but is there any TV coverage?

 

[TheGame]

Meh, I don't see how that could be a coincidence that a page comes up which bans a member for speaking against a forum member calling them childish. Again, do you really believe that the specific nature of that ban is on a database? I think not.

They use SMF. Here's the manual for the ban list

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Ban_list

Under "Add New Ban"

* Reason - Reason for ban, to be displayed to banned member.

So when banning someone, the moderator puts in the reason, that reason is then displayed to the user.

Really dude, your persecution complex is beyond ridiculous. Ever considered therapy?

 

[Wilba60]

Pretty sure SBS have coverage but it is delayed.

 

[Netserk]

What times is it in CET?

 

[valentius borealis]

What times is it in CET?

Proloue: 7:00am
Stage 1: 1:30am
Stage 2: 1:30am
Stage 3: 7:30am

 

[gerundium]

Proloue: 7:00am
Stage 1: 1:30am
Stage 2: 1:30am
Stage 3: 7:30am

is this in reference to the broadcast times or the stage start times?

 

[HiCadence]

Anyone know if this is being televised or not?

 

[search]

there are 30 minutes highlight shows on SBS2 every evening

Edit: same for the bay classics btw

 

[Dundee]

Mitchelton Bay Cycling Classic
Highlights: 9:30pm, Tuesday 1 January – Thursday 3 January on SBS TWO and available online.

Jayco Herald Sun Tour
Highlights: 10:00pm Thursday 3 January on SBS TWO and available online
Highlights: 9:30pm Friday 4 January – Sunday 6 January on SBS TWO and available online

Review: 1:00pm Sunday 13 January on SBS ONE and available online

Cycling Australia National Road Championships
LIVE 2:00pm Sunday 13 January on SBS ONE and online

 

[Wilba60]

Stage 1 is going to be a very tough start to this race, with the ride heading north and north west all day. Training routes I have ridden many times and it is tough going with plenty of rolling hills and a great KOM early with the ride up Mount Macedon. 39C and head winds will make for a very interesting start and I will be keen to see how Clarke goes and if he stretches Gerrans.

Thursday 3 January
SummaryMin 14Max 33Sunny.
Melbourne area
Sunny. Light winds with afternoon bayside seabreezes to 15 km/h.
Friday 4 January
SummaryMin 20Max 39Sunny.
Melbourne area
Sunny. Winds north to northeasterly 15 to 25 km/h shifting southwesterly 30 to 45 km/h during the evening.

Haven 't seen the forecast beyond the forecast above but with southerly winds coming in at the end of Friday, should make for a much cooler weekend, with squally south westerly winds.