2013 Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco, Stage 4 Trapagaran - Arrate 151.6 km

[Ferminal]

A Movistar rider going on the attack? I'll believe it when I see it.

Sky gets a lot of flack, but Movistar is the most boring team ever.

I guess this is true about their GC riders.

 

[Descender]

You are boring ,Nairo is awesome!

He sure is, and he was the strongest today, so he should have attacked on the climb!

But no, Movistar are content with securing the stage win, nevermind aiming for GC.

 

[Netserk]

He sure is, and he was the strongest today, so he should have attacked on the climb!

But no, Movistar are content with securing the stage win, nevermind aiming for GC.

They attacked in the bottom of the climb

 

[HoinkDoink]

I fell asleep and just woke up at 300m to go, can someone give a quick recap what happened in Arrate? I think Sky trained it up considering that Porte and Henao was still there

Spilak attacked with about 5k left, Porte closed him down with Henao, Contador, Peraud, Betancour and Quintana, Quintana won by 2 seconds

 

[jaylew]

A Movistar rider going on the attack? I'll believe it when I see it.

Sky gets a lot of flack, but Movistar is the most boring team ever.

Most boring?? I can't even believe I just read that. Have you watched any races this year? Actually, Movistar was the first to attack from the group on the final climb today. And we've seen Nairo attack more than once this year .

 

[JRanton]

PaisVasco 2013, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Quintana, Henao, Porte, Contador: 13:43. 19.46 Kph, VAM 1750 m/h, 6.04 W/kg

LaVuelta 2012, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Froome: 13:03, 20.46 Kph, VAM 1839 m/h, 6.34 W/kg

PaisVasco 2009, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador: 12:11, 21.92 Kph, VAM 1970 m/h, 6.80 W/kg.


Contador is getting slower and slower.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

PaisVasco 2013, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Quintana, Henao, Porte, Contador: 13:43. 19.46 Kph, VAM 1750 m/h, 6.04 W/kg

LaVuelta 2012, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Froome: 13:03, 20.46 Kph, VAM 1839 m/h, 6.34 W/kg

PaisVasco 2009, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador: 12:11, 21.92 Kph, VAM 1970 m/h, 6.80 W/kg.


Contador is getting slower and slower.

todays horrid conditions ofcourse have no effect on the numbers whatsoever....

 

[ILovecycling]

He sure is, and he was the strongest today, so he should have attacked on the climb!

But no, Movistar are content with securing the stage win, nevermind aiming for GC.

We can hope that tomorow he will attack.


...Guys,this race is a colombian parade!Where is Ryo;still banned?He surely is celebrating

 

[Carols]

I got a replay of Quintanas move where he passed Henao on the outside on the corner; Very Cheeky move Chapeau!!!!

 

[TomasC]

Kreuziger's seriously bad. A long time ago some thought he would have the highest GC ambitions, then that he at least could be a great super dom. What are his prospects now? He's getting dropped from the front groups before he really can help his leader.
OK, if he wins LBL that would be an answer

 

[JRanton]

todays horrid conditions ofcourse have no effect on the numbers whatsoever....

1 minute 32 slower?

 

[Netserk]

And then compare the number of attacks today and in the Vuelta. Ofc they went slower today. In the start there was also a moment when everyone just looked at each other. Doesn't exactly push the tempo...

 

[Forunculo]

Quintana must avoid being "Valverde 2.0" like Unzue wants. He is able to attack from a long distance and not at the last km. Henao and Porte (the big favourite) with total ease. And Contador at his usual level this 2013. Very poor

 

[Ferminal]

If you think Contador has performed at 2009 leve at any stage since then...

 

[Netserk]

1 minute 32 slower?

20 seconds slower than in the Vuelta

 

[BlenJones2]

PaisVasco 2013, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Quintana, Henao, Porte, Contador: 13:43. 19.46 Kph, VAM 1750 m/h, 6.04 W/kg

LaVuelta 2012, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Froome: 13:03, 20.46 Kph, VAM 1839 m/h, 6.34 W/kg

PaisVasco 2009, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador: 12:11, 21.92 Kph, VAM 1970 m/h, 6.80 W/kg.


Contador is getting slower and slower.

As well as the weather, noone was really taking it up at the bottom of the climb after herrada's and spilak's attacks

 

[Carols]

The post Sky slump.

Yeah they seem to forget all those advanced training methods once they leave

 

[Descender]

I'm sorry José Herrada forcing at the bottom of the climb and disappearing 1km later doesn't exactly count as blowing the race up in my book...

Again, do Movistar really want to win this race? If they do, they should have gone all-out with Quintana on the climb today, instead of waiting to sprint for the stage win. They are turning an aggressive climber like Quintana into a new Valverde, making him ride as conservatively as possible.

 

[LaFlorecita]

20 seconds slower than in the Vuelta

double that and you're spot on

 

[Netserk]

double that and you're spot on

Lol you're right. Apparently I'm blind

 

[Forunculo]

PaisVasco 2013, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Quintana, Henao, Porte, Contador: 13:43. 19.46 Kph, VAM 1750 m/h, 6.04 W/kg

LaVuelta 2012, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Froome: 13:03, 20.46 Kph, VAM 1839 m/h, 6.34 W/kg

PaisVasco 2009, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador: 12:11, 21.92 Kph, VAM 1970 m/h, 6.80 W/kg.


Contador is getting slower and slower.

Depend of weather, stage distance, number of stage and how the climb was raced.

I remember in 2009 the second group came at 15-25 seconds.
But the fact is Contador is past his prime

 

[JRanton]

20 seconds slower than in the vuelta

40.

...

 

[Netserk]

40.

...

See my respond to LaFlo

 

[thegrimpeur]

The Contador past his prime discussion will not be settled until the Tour anyway. Interesting stage tomorrow, I'd say either a breakaway or a select group of under 10 favourites battling it out. Could see the more punchy guys like Sammy, Cunego and Ulissi sprinting for the win, with Porte and Spilak possibly losing some time.

 

[Escarabajo]

PaisVasco 2013, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Quintana, Henao, Porte, Contador: 13:43. 19.46 Kph, VAM 1750 m/h, 6.04 W/kg

LaVuelta 2012, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador, Valverde, Rodriguez, Froome: 13:03, 20.46 Kph, VAM 1839 m/h, 6.34 W/kg

PaisVasco 2009, Alto de Arrate (4.45 km, 8.99 %, 400 m). Contador: 12:11, 21.92 Kph, VAM 1970 m/h, 6.80 W/kg.


Contador is getting slower and slower.

Temperature and conditions can affect those numbers. But the VAM do not take that into account!