2014 Giro D'Italia, stage 8: Foligno - Montecopiolo 179 km

[Bushman]

I can't understand how Quintana did not look good? He is still recovering from his crashes, he is peaking in the third week, he followed without problems and in the end gained 2 seconds on Evans. On the Zoncolan stage he will take minutes on Evans for sure.

 

[Better Call Saul]

I dont want to be too rude,after all its your opinion,but...
For me this is one of the most ridiculous posts of the year

Try forming an opinion not shared by the masses.
Plenty of riders have gotten this kind of hype, not all of them get to the top or manage to stay there.

 

[Bushman]

Well said. Sure he's a good climber, but gt riders need to be all rounders and Quintana most certainly isn't that. He'll never win a gt in my opinion. If a Colombian is going to go all the way, I reckon it'll be someone more in the mold of uran. That said I think it will be 10 years before a Colombian wins a gt.

He might have won a GT in just two weeks.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

as expected low speed on the final climb, probably everyone under 6 w/kg

gonna comeback with the two other climbs later

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/05/peaceful-day-in-giros-first-mountains.html

The Belgian commentators reconned the final climb and said there was a fierce side/headwind. So I think they actually did push a bit more than you'd give them credit for.

It seems though definately not all commentators are as well informed as the Belgian ones. Since all of you seemed to expect heavy attacks into the headwind

 

[alspacka]

Well said. Sure he's a good climber, but gt riders need to be all rounders and Quintana most certainly isn't that. He'll never win a gt in my opinion. If a Colombian is going to go all the way, I reckon it'll be someone more in the mold of uran. That said I think it will be 10 years before a Colombian wins a gt.

We'll see. With this field I would bet on Quintana to win this even if he isn't 100%. If it was vs Contador and Froome it's a different story.

As for not being an all rounder, his TT is not so bad.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Pais_Vasco_2013_Stage_6_Beasain

Not exactly a MTT.

 

[manafana]

Well said. Sure he's a good climber, but gt riders need to be all rounders and Quintana most certainly isn't that. He'll never win a gt in my opinion. If a Colombian is going to go all the way, I reckon it'll be someone more in the mold of uran. That said I think it will be 10 years before a Colombian wins a gt.

10years we probably get one in this giro, uran tt is very strong and will out gun evans their, either will win one soon

 

[PirazziAttacksVino]

We'll see. With this field I would bet on Quintana to win this even if he isn't 100%. If it was vs Contador and Froome it's a different story.

As for not being an all rounder, his TT is not so bad.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Pais_Vasco_2013_Stage_6_Beasain

Not exactly a MTT.

Don't forget the final stage of Tirreno this year. Decent enough considering his size and the fact that the TT was short.

 

[Angliru]

seems like this giro has all the chances to be worse than 2012. what a performance!

We're just ending the first frakkin' week! How can you come to that conclusion?

 

[Better Call Saul]

10years we probably get one in this giro, uran tt is very strong and will out gun evans their, either will win one soon

You're probably right about the tt, not sure that uran has the climbing legs this year though

 

[Angliru]

Well said. Sure he's a good climber, but gt riders need to be all rounders and Quintana most certainly isn't that. He'll never win a gt in my opinion. If a Colombian is going to go all the way, I reckon it'll be someone more in the mold of uran. That said I think it will be 10 years before a Colombian wins a gt.

With the abundance of Colombian climbing talent on display in today's peloton chances are you'll be proven wrong, especially with your 10 years statement.

 

[TANK91]

Wow now i agree i said Quintana did not look great yesterday aswell but you seriously think he cant win a GT?, HAHA. Quintana on top form is better than Nibali uphill yet Uran on form of his life could not touch Nibali last year. Quintana has a way better chance than Uran.

 

[Angliru]

Well said. I do think Quintana is still the overall favorite especially with all the mountains in week 3 plus Evans is old. But a lot of fans have this penchant for little climbers. If Quintana was the same size as Evans or Uran I doubt he would be so popular. Ability to climb is determined by power to weight. Not just weight.

Could it be his accomplishments at such a young age are why he gets so much hype and not his height and size? Contactor is 5'-9" or 5'-10" and he has a decent following on here. The Schlecks are (or were) pretty popular and they're over 6 feet tall.

 

[Angliru]

Ha hahaha ha hahahaahaha

Where's Ryo when you need him

I'm tempted to put it in my signature if it wasn't so long.

 

[Angliru]

The Belgian commentators reconned the final climb and said there was a fierce side/headwind. So I think they actually did push a bit more than you'd give them credit for.

It seems though definately not all commentators are as well informed as the Belgian ones. Since all of you seemed to expect heavy attacks into the headwind

It gets kind of tiresome to hear the complaining about "cowardly" and "pathetic" riders as they're described here because they failed to entertain to the level that some folks here apparently are accustomed to on their PCM games.

 

[UlleGigo]

I can't understand how Quintana did not look good? He is still recovering from his crashes, he is peaking in the third week, he followed without problems and in the end gained 2 seconds on Evans. On the Zoncolan stage he will take minutes on Evans for sure.

Judgement is being reserved in case Evans wins so then everyone can say that Quintana was injured.

Same as when Evans won the TDF it didn't count because pre-marginal gains™ Wiggo (lol) and Gesink (trololol) had crashed.

 

[darwin553]

FFS someone attack Evans!

So glad for your sake it didn't really happen!

Basso looking strong in the front

Not quite. Basso benefited from the pace of Morabito but when the pace was turned up the usual Basso shone through; which is to say his days of being a podium contender is over – top 10 if he is lucky.

Also shame that Mick Rogers had to sacrifice himself for Majka on the 4th wheel of the AG2R lead out train.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Quoting all the hype about Quintana on these threads in a week or so time will be hilarious in regards to how he will 'crush' rider x,y,z.

Movistar collapsed on the climbs and Evans is looking strong. Even BMC was stronger than Movistar.

 

[Afrank]

Quoting all the hype about Quintana on these threads in a week or so time will be hilarious in regards to how he will 'crush' rider x,y,z.

Movistar collapsed on the climbs and Evans is looking strong. Even BMC was stronger than Movistar.

Quintana will destroy everyone that get's in his way as he climbs like and angel to every single MTF win. Evans, Uran, and everyone else think they have known pain, but they don't know real pain until they faced off against Nairito. He will put everyone into such oxygen debt through his many epic solo attacks that they will beg for mercy until they finally collapse off their bikes mid stage in exhaustion. While everyone's legs are turning inside out Nairito will be ascending the slopes of Italy like Pantani every time the road goes uphill. 10.0 W/kg, breaking every climbs record, and making guys like Merckx and Hinault look like over hyped neo-pros. It will be domination on a scale never seen before.

I am 100% serious with this post.

 

[gregrowlerson]

LOL at the poster who spoke of the disappointing first MTF's of the TDF! 2012 was great, and 2007 had highly interesting action.

This Giro stage turned out to be a little disappointing. The profile itself was very good, especially the first climb, a real beast. Perhaps if this stage had been in week 3 then with a tireder peleton some GC riders would have attacked on that?

Excellent result for Evans, and promising for him that Morabito is so strong. Moviestar seem weak, though not a horrible result for Quintana. I think that it was a good ride from Basso. Considering his poor form this year it could suggest that he's going to be strong during the third week...

 

[Yingge]

Quintana will destroy everyone that get's in his way as he climbs like and angel to every single MTF win. Evans, Uran, and everyone else think they have known pain, but they don't know real pain until they faced off against Nairito. He will put everyone into such oxygen debt through his many epic solo attacks that they will beg for mercy until they finally collapse off their bikes mid stage in exhaustion. While everyone's legs are turning inside out Nairito will be ascending the slopes of Italy like Pantani every time the road goes uphill. 10.0 W/kg, breaking every climbs record, and making guys like Merckx and Hinault look like over hyped neo-pros. It will be domination on a scale never seen before.

I am 100% serious with this post.

Oh dear, that statement puts most of the other fan-boys to shame.

And if he doesn't live up to all your dreams by 17:30 on June 1, what happens then?

 

[darwin553]

Quintana will destroy everyone that get's in his way as he climbs like and angel to every single MTF win. Evans, Uran, and everyone else think they have known pain, but they don't know real pain until they faced off against Nairito. He will put everyone into such oxygen debt through his many epic solo attacks that they will beg for mercy until they finally collapse off their bikes mid stage in exhaustion. While everyone's legs are turning inside out Nairito will be ascending the slopes of Italy like Pantani every time the road goes uphill. 10.0 W/kg, breaking every climbs record, and making guys like Merckx and Hinault look like over hyped neo-pros. It will be domination on a scale never seen before.

I am 100% serious with this post.

Subject to today's stage but I really think Quintana is lacking that real killer instinct that arguably makes a GT champion

 

[auscyclefan94]

Quintana will destroy everyone that get's in his way as he climbs like and angel to every single MTF win. Evans, Uran, and everyone else think they have known pain, but they don't know real pain until they faced off against Nairito. He will put everyone into such oxygen debt through his many epic solo attacks that they will beg for mercy until they finally collapse off their bikes mid stage in exhaustion. While everyone's legs are turning inside out Nairito will be ascending the slopes of Italy like Pantani every time the road goes uphill. 10.0 W/kg, breaking every climbs record, and making guys like Merckx and Hinault look like over hyped neo-pros. It will be domination on a scale never seen before.

I am 100% serious with this post.

I look forward to seeing a rider produce 10w/kg on any of the coming climbs over the next 2 weeks...

 

[Bushman]

Quoting all the hype about Quintana on these threads in a week or so time will be hilarious in regards to how he will 'crush' rider x,y,z.

Movistar collapsed on the climbs and Evans is looking strong. Even BMC was stronger than Movistar.

I agree that Evans is looking strong but then again: He was gapped at the end by Quintana, who might not be 100% right now, on a climb that suited Evans well. I think he will lose a massive amount of time on the MTFs in the third week, especially Zoncolan where it is rider against rider, not team against team.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Chapeau to Rolland.

If another GC rider went with Pierre, different result and impact?

Anyway, the Giro is heavily backloaded. More to come later.

Many pics here: http://www.steephill.tv/2014/giro-d-italia/photos/stage-08/

 

[SafeBet]

I'm not sure they're taking Rolland as a GC rider. I'm not even sure he sees himself as a GC rider in this Giro.