2014 Paris Nice, Stage 8: Nice - Nice 129km

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Mar 19, 2009
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maltiv said:
Rojas for the win.

And by win I mean fourth place.

Hey, occasionally he gets 5th. Or 3rd. Or 6th. But yeah, mostly 4th.

Seriously, Rojas has absolutely no killer instinct whatsoever.
Good lord, he hasn't won a race in 2 years. Been almost as long since he's even been 2nd. Even Farrar and Napolitano show up every once in awhile. Leonardo Duque wins races for ***sake! Graeme freaking Brown got 2nd in a race this year!!
 
Jun 10, 2013
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jaylew said:
Hey, occasionally he gets 5th. Or 3rd. Or 6th. But yeah, mostly 4th.

Seriously, Rojas has absolutely no killer instinct whatsoever.
Good lord, he hasn't won a race in 2 years. Been almost as long since he's even been 2nd. Even Farrar and Napolitano show up every once in awhile. Leonardo Duque wins races for ***sake! Graeme freaking Brown got 2nd in a race this year!!

The problem with Rojas is he is not as good as the best on the flat, so he never wins, and even though he is better than the common sprinter on fairly hilly terrain, he ends up losing to the puncheurs or even climbers, because he is not the best there either.

That being said, he is doomed to collect as many 4th places as he can.
 
Mar 19, 2009
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That's a lot of it but he also loses sprints in Spanish races against 3rd and 4th tier sprinters and flat, reduced-group sprints as well.

Pretty sure I remember him being out-sprinted by Talansky at the Tour last year.
 
Jun 25, 2013
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EBH should get his act together now that Thomas is out. He should be great on this stage but he hasn't really done a thing in this race.
 

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Aug 5, 2009
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The leader looks like he has the race wrapped up. Costa's only chance was a final stage TT and this year there isn't one. Slaghter has also had a very good race. Thomas was never going to win the race but gave it his best until the crash.
 
Dec 6, 2012
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BigMac said:
The problem with Rojas is he is not as good as the best on the flat, so he never wins, and even though he is better than the common sprinter on fairly hilly terrain, he ends up losing to the puncheurs or even climbers, because he is not the best there either.

That being said, he is doomed to collect as many 4th places as he can.

I stop caring about Movistar when it comes to fast finish, so I don't know if he's ever got any help at all, has he? From whom usually? Jesus?
 
May 5, 2010
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gunara said:
I stop caring about Movistar when it comes to fast finish, so I don't know if he's ever got any help at all, has he? From whom usually? Jesus?

Why not?



After all; he is in the race.
 
Oct 23, 2009
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VeloHuman said:
EBH should get his act together now that Thomas is out. He should be great on this stage but he hasn't really done a thing in this race.
I think he's sick (probably stomach issues), he looked horrible yesterday, getting dropped while the peloton was barely even moving.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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dicanio_michael said:
Waiting Stybar to attack, just like what he did in last year Eneco Tour ;)

an attack in the final climb and he might reach the finish. stybie is a very good descender.


but i think this is more likely to be a "everyone watches others" sort of stage finish.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Libertine Seguros said:
... José Joaquín Rojas can defend a top 5 GC placement, which for a sprinter at P-N is pretty hilarious.

Well, I remember Peter Van Petegem getting a top 3 in the final GC once and Museeuw and Tchmil getting top-10's. It's not that P-N has always been as difficult as some editions of the last couple of years.
 
May 25, 2010
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I kind of hope that Costa will be able to take the GC win. He deserves it, but so does Betancur. Which I also like..... Tough choices. I guess they will have to decide it for me :)

Costa has been trying to hard to show off his WC jersey and imo he's been a lot more visual and aggresive than last years.
 
Jun 7, 2010
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rghysens said:
Well, I remember Peter Van Petegem getting a top 3 in the final GC once and Museeuw and Tchmil getting top-10's. It's not that P-N has always been as difficult as some editions of the last couple of years.

Exactly. Van Petegem even led until the last Eze TT.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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the difference is a bit more due to non-c****c performance by a certain team than anything else.
 
Jun 10, 2013
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Maybe Rojas is starting to become a true all-rounder and will be the next Sean Kelly. :D I mean, how far can we consider him a sprinter?
 
Oct 26, 2010
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Vamos Rui!!! Another second place is waiting for us :D Seriously now, he's doing justice to the rainbow jersey. It's just that damned curse that turns a proper winner into a second place finisher!
 
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Look at the where the intermediate sprints are placed. Costa should try to get some bonus seconds there.

18km's and Sabatini abandons.