2014 Tour de France July 19, Stage 14: Grenoble - Risoul 177km

[Arnout]

Belgian TV reports Ten Dam had to pull over and throw up early in the stage. Might be sick

I would do the same if I had to drink alcohol free beer.

 

[Coat-O]

Astana is actually going quite slowly. Break is getting close to 5 minutes.

But it's gonna be an awesome stage. Bardet has promised to attack on the penultimate climb. Pinot is going to attack as well.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't understand this logic. Can you come up with a logical argument for why Nibali shouldn't go for more wins?

1 stage win at the Tour means the world to most riders. Really, is there such a big difference between 3 or 4 stage wins? Why not give other riders a chance? He's just being greedy, and I don't like that.

 

[gunara]

It's an experienced racer he knows what to do...

But we're experienced commentators, we know what to say...

 

[TheSpud]

I would do the same if I had to drink alcohol free beer.

Eurosport talking about how there has been a lot of manure spreading in the fields and then when it rains it gets all over the road, and the spray, etc. Nice ...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Vino is calling the shots.

Yep Kills, that could very well be the reason why Astana is chasing

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Did someone say rain !

Hope so !

 

[JRTK73]

1 stage win at the Tour means the world to most riders. Really, is there such a big difference between 3 or 4 stage wins? Why not give other riders a chance? He's just being greedy, and I don't like that.

He's in a race and he's trying to win that race. If you want to beat him you only have to cycle quicker.

 

[whittashau]

1 stage win at the Tour means the world to most riders. Really, is there such a big difference between 3 or 4 stage wins? Why not give other riders a chance? He's just being greedy, and I don't like that.

That isn't the attitude a winner has in sports. And it's probably not about winning the stage. It's probably about feeling good and therefore wanting his team to keep a good pace in order to take advantage of that in comparison to his rivals. If a stage win comes then he'll deserve it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He's in a race and he's trying to win that race. If you want to beat him you only have to cycle quicker.

We'll have to disagree here. No need to be a greedy *******, really.

 

[Tournesol]

Someone forgot to tell Merckx.

 

[LaFlorecita]

That isn't the attitude a winner has in sports. And it's probably not about winning the stage. It's probably about feeling good and therefore wanting his team to keep a good pace in order to take advantage of that in comparison to his rivals. If a stage win comes then he'll deserve it.

People like Contador, Froome, aren't winners? I say, let others get their moment to shine. I'm not saying he should gift the stage win like Contador to Tiralongo, but no need to keep the break within 5 minutes.

 

[Tournesol]

I think someone forgot to tell Merckx about not being greedy.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

1 stage win at the Tour means the world to most riders. Really, is there such a big difference between 3 or 4 stage wins? Why not give other riders a chance? He's just being greedy, and I don't like that.

There is not a way for me to explain how confused I am without you disregarding my opinion. Put simply, racers are motivated by success. They are trained for winning. Paid for beig at the top of the podium. Calling him greedy is misuse of the word and shows a total disrespect for the essence of sport.

 

[Tournesol]

Posted twice there.can you delete posts anyone know?

 

[webbie146]

1 stage win at the Tour means the world to most riders. Really, is there such a big difference between 3 or 4 stage wins? Why not give other riders a chance? He's just being greedy, and I don't like that.

He can win as much as he wants, if other riders don't like it they should ride harder

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Posted twice there.can you delete posts anyone know?

Hit "edit" under your post

 

[LaFlorecita]

There is not a way for me to explain how confused I am without you disregarding my opinion. Put simply, racers are motivated by success. They are trained for winning. Paid for beig at the top of the podium. Calling him greedy is misuse of the word and shows a total disrespect for the essence of sport.

Fortunately I know there are even some Nibali fans who agree with me, so I'm not alone. Sheesh, might as well give Nibali 6 stage wins already and be done with it. I just hate riders who feel the need to stamp their dominance on a particular race. Sure, dominate, who cares. But why put so much effort in another stage win, when that same stage win could make another rider's career? Riders are driven by success, but what the hell is the difference between 5 or 6 stages?

 

[whittashau]

People like Contador, Froome, aren't winners? I say, let others get their moment to shine. I'm not saying he should gift the stage win like Contador to Tiralongo, but no need to keep the break within 5 minutes.

No, they're equally as ruthless when they want to be I'm sure. If it suited Contador or Froome to keep breaks from getting away to big leads every stage then that's what they'd do. If you think otherwise you're quite simply wrong

Not chasing breakaways is down to tactics. Not about being greedy or otherwise.

 

[Tournesol]

Hit "edit" under your post

Got it.Thanks.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He can win as much as he wants, if other riders don't like it they should ride harder

That's a very simplistic view, and for me this is another reason to dislike Nibali while I was just starting to warm to him just slightly. Oh well, there's a reason why Alberto has more fans.

 

[Rollthedice]

That's a very simplistic view, and for me this is another reason to dislike Nibali while I was just starting to warm to him just slightly. Oh well, there's a reason why Alberto has more fans.

And how do you exactly know that he will try to win this stage also? By Astana's pace?

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, they're equally as ruthless when they want to be I'm sure. If it suited Contador or Froome to keep breaks from getting away to big leads every stage then that's what they'd do. If you think otherwise you're quite simply wrong

Not chasing breakaways is down to tactics. Not about being greedy or otherwise.

They can easily let the break get 10 minutes, on the last 2 climbs they could get 5 minutes off the gap. Contador and Froome gave other riders a time to shine, and I respect that. But I guess Nibali has to stamp his dominance on the race, to stop people from speculating about what could have been.

 

[LaFlorecita]

And how do you exactly know that he will try to win this stage also? By Astana's pace?

It's called using common sense. Or do you think he'll let Pinot or Bardet ride away on the final climb? It'll be the same scenario as yesterday.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

High pace? Kittel and Demare are still in.