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2014 Vuelta a Espana, Stage 17: Ortigueira→Coruña (191 Km's)

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T-Nielsen said:
I hope this does not finish in a sprint. Because if the winner has not been taking turns for the last 100km we have no choice but labeling him a wheelsucker. ;):p:rolleyes:

Well-played :D
 
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trevim said:
Basically, Rodriguez says a couple of interesting things:
- Valverde is a wheelsucker, didn't like to be outsprinted on Farrapona.
- He doesn't think this is good team building for the Worlds.
- He prefers Valverde to Contador: he prefers Valverde's style. Also has a better relationship with Valverde.
- Also didn't like Contador not saying he was riding to win the Vuelta.
- He appreciates Froome's style of going for the win.

Maybe it's just me but Purito comes across very bitter in this interview. It's all because he probably lost his last chance of winning a GT?

Also I think there's something between Purito and Contador and perhaps Valverde; I mean last year Contador was OK riding domestique for them even if his shape was bad and this year he has already ruled himself out....

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=74981

Purito and AC have long given signals that they do not get along all that well. This is not a surprise.
 
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What I would expect from Purito is something like "I would have attacked more and wheelsucked less had I known Alberto's leg wasn't as bad as he made us believe"
 
This is turning out to be very euro-centric. With Uran now gone, there are only two New World riders in the top 25; Winner Anacona (Lampre) and Ryder Hesjedal (Garmin). No Americans in the top 50, where the first Aussie (Hansen) sits, an hour and half down. Eritrea is placed higher than USA.

Ryder is 9th in points, 8th in mountains, and an impressive 6th in the combo class, right behind Aru.
 
I don't know how much you lose in translation but it's clear that Purito was bitter:
He didn't said Valverde was a wheelsucker, he said they were working together but without giving the max. And that he didn't like Piti outsprinted him. He said they settled the issue after the race (so why bringing it on press conf?)

Claro que no me gustó. Pienso que los cincuenta y pico segundos que nos metieron es lo que marca el papel, pero fue la sensación que tuve porque seguramente podíamos haber subido rápido. Pero parece que tenemos la tontería esa de tira tú, tiro yo, te doy el relevo y a la mínima que me pides el relevo me rematas, ahora no puedo y te hago el sprint…. No me gustó y se lo dije. Ya lo hablamos.

He said Contador is the strongest and that's why he's the leader. He said he didn't like Contador downplaying his chances but he (Purito) never believe on that and that he doesn't care... Again why talking about this thru media?

“Froome siempre ha dicho que venía a disputarla (la Vuelta), el único que ha dicho que no venía con esa intención ha sido Alberto. A mí personalmente no me gusta, pero tampoco me lo creí. Si va líder, es porque es el más fuerte, yo siempre lo he tratado como que llegaba al cien por cien. Ni me mosqueo ni no

He did mention that it wasn't the best team building for the Worlds:

No pienso que sea la mejor forma de hacer grupo en la selección de un Mundial”, aseguró el líder del Katusha.
 
slosada said:
I don't know how much you lose in translation but it's clear that Purito was bitter:
He didn't said Valverde was a wheelsucker, he said they were working together but without giving the max. And that he didn't like Piti outsprinted him. He said they settled the issue after the race (so why bringing it on press conf?)

Claro que no me gustó. Pienso que los cincuenta y pico segundos que nos metieron es lo que marca el papel, pero fue la sensación que tuve porque seguramente podíamos haber subido rápido. Pero parece que tenemos la tontería esa de tira tú, tiro yo, te doy el relevo y a la mínima que me pides el relevo me rematas, ahora no puedo y te hago el sprint…. No me gustó y se lo dije. Ya lo hablamos.

He said Contador is the strongest and that's why he's the leader. He said he didn't like Contador downplaying his chances but he (Purito) never believe on that and that he doesn't care... Again why talking about this thru media?

“Froome siempre ha dicho que venía a disputarla (la Vuelta), el único que ha dicho que no venía con esa intención ha sido Alberto. A mí personalmente no me gusta, pero tampoco me lo creí. Si va líder, es porque es el más fuerte, yo siempre lo he tratado como que llegaba al cien por cien. Ni me mosqueo ni no

He did mention that it wasn't the best team building for the Worlds:

No pienso que sea la mejor forma de hacer grupo en la selección de un Mundial”, aseguró el líder del Katusha.

You do realize that journalists ask questions on a press conference, right?

And about the last part: you missed the context there.
 
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slosada said:
I don't know how much you lose in translation but it's clear that Purito was bitter:
He didn't said Valverde was a wheelsucker, he said they were working together but without giving the max. And that he didn't like Piti outsprinted him. He said they settled the issue after the race (so why bringing it on press conf?)

Claro que no me gustó. Pienso que los cincuenta y pico segundos que nos metieron es lo que marca el papel, pero fue la sensación que tuve porque seguramente podíamos haber subido rápido. Pero parece que tenemos la tontería esa de tira tú, tiro yo, te doy el relevo y a la mínima que me pides el relevo me rematas, ahora no puedo y te hago el sprint…. No me gustó y se lo dije. Ya lo hablamos.

He said Contador is the strongest and that's why he's the leader. He said he didn't like Contador downplaying his chances but he (Purito) never believe on that and that he doesn't care... Again why talking about this thru media?

“Froome siempre ha dicho que venía a disputarla (la Vuelta), el único que ha dicho que no venía con esa intención ha sido Alberto. A mí personalmente no me gusta, pero tampoco me lo creí. Si va líder, es porque es el más fuerte, yo siempre lo he tratado como que llegaba al cien por cien. Ni me mosqueo ni no

He did mention that it wasn't the best team building for the Worlds:

No pienso que sea la mejor forma de hacer grupo en la selección de un Mundial”, aseguró el líder del Katusha.

Nobody can say he was bitter without watching him speaking. I've seen many interviews of him and I know that missing his non-verbal communication gestures is missing half the message.
 
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slosada said:
I don't know how much you lose in translation but it's clear that Purito was bitter:
He didn't said Valverde was a wheelsucker, he said they were working together but without giving the max. And that he didn't like Piti outsprinted him. He said they settled the issue after the race (so why bringing it on press conf?)

Claro que no me gustó. Pienso que los cincuenta y pico segundos que nos metieron es lo que marca el papel, pero fue la sensación que tuve porque seguramente podíamos haber subido rápido. Pero parece que tenemos la tontería esa de tira tú, tiro yo, te doy el relevo y a la mínima que me pides el relevo me rematas, ahora no puedo y te hago el sprint…. No me gustó y se lo dije. Ya lo hablamos.

He said Contador is the strongest and that's why he's the leader. He said he didn't like Contador downplaying his chances but he (Purito) never believe on that and that he doesn't care... Again why talking about this thru media?

“Froome siempre ha dicho que venía a disputarla (la Vuelta), el único que ha dicho que no venía con esa intención ha sido Alberto. A mí personalmente no me gusta, pero tampoco me lo creí. Si va líder, es porque es el más fuerte, yo siempre lo he tratado como que llegaba al cien por cien. Ni me mosqueo ni no

He did mention that it wasn't the best team building for the Worlds:

No pienso que sea la mejor forma de hacer grupo en la selección de un Mundial”, aseguró el líder del Katusha.
So why is he whinning then? :rolleyes: When he raced without believing AC and journous,then there is no problem :confused:
 
Flamin said:
You do realize that journalists ask questions on a press conference, right?

And about the last part: you missed the context there.
Yes, journos can create conflicts out of nothing (and love doing it to sell more).

He begs the media not to add fuel to the fire.. But wait! Is there any fire?
There you will get your answer.


icefire said:
Nobody can say he was bitter without watching him speaking. I've seen many interviews of him and I know that missing his non-verbal communication gestures is missing half the message.
I agree... But from what is presented in that piece of news, it doesn't make any sense to come and say I don't like this, then go in details, to dismiss it in the same sentence with "I don't care" or "we already settled it". Does it?

I mean there are way to express the same ideas without being opinionated. Let's say: About Contador: "I always took him as a GC candidate despite what he say". No need to mention disliking.
Or about Valverde: "Oh we talked about that, I guess if we had worked harder, we would have lost less time".
 
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Good finale!

Was Aru in the front group? There was an image of him coming back on after his flat, but with the high pace and the peloton splits I imagine he might've missed the first split.
 
Aug 4, 2010
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
Good finale!

Was Aru in the front group? There was an image of him coming back on after his flat, but with the high pace and the peloton splits I imagine he might've missed the first split.
I think he didnt make it :(
 
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