2015 Giro Route Rumours

[SafeBet]

Apologies for my lack of knowledge about Italy, but what are stages 7 and 8 likely to be like? I guess 7 will be hilly looking at the map of the surrounding area. Is there much down in Ceglie Messapica of interest?

You're asking about the race or tourism-wise?

 

[barmaher]

The race, SafeBet. I would guess it would be fun in Puglia, from what I have heard. Worst case scenario, I walk along the coast and stuff my face with food.

Thanks for your answer, Eshnar.

 

[jens_attacks]

it would be about time for the real mortirolo to come back. i get depressed and angry only when i think about 2012 tovo tempo riding bleargh
of course mortirolo-santa cristina would be even better
but yeah 5 years,real mortirolo should come back

 

[May0maniac]

It should look like this, roughly:

1 S.Lorenzo a Mare - Sanremo TTT
2 Albenga - Genova
3 Chiavari - La Spezia
4 Levanto - Montecatini
5 Montecatini? - Castiglione della Pescaia
6 no clue
7 ??? - Sulmona
8 ??? - Ceglie Messapica
9 no clue
rest
10 Casalmaggiore - Vicenza
11 Treviso - Jesolo ITT
12 ??? - Nervesa della Battaglia (possible sterrato)
13 ??? - Sappada (Sorgenti del Piave) MTF
14 no clue (Maybe Kronplatz, since they had a deal for 2014 and cancelled it)
15 ??? - Aprica MTF
rest
16 no clue
17 ??? - Lugano?
18 ??? - Cervinia MTF
19 ??? - S.Anna di Vinadio MTF
20 ??? - Sestriere MTF
21 Alba - Torino

Today a local newspaper reported that a stage finish on Kronplatz/Plan de Corones is very likely to happen

 

[Eshnar]

Today a local newspaper reported that a stage finish on Kronplatz/Plan de Corones is very likely to happen

awesome. Thanks for the info

 

[May0maniac]

awesome. Thanks for the info

You're welcome. What do you think MTT or an epic, long "zomegnanesque" stage with multiple hard climbs in the Dolomites?

 

[Eshnar]

You're welcome. What do you think MTT or an epic, long "zomegnanesque" stage with multiple hard climbs in the Dolomites?

Since they should have an ITT just a few days earlier, I guess they'll have a road stage. Don't think they'll put many climbs though, with Aprica the next day.

 

[May0maniac]

Since they should have an ITT just a few days earlier, I guess they'll have a road stage. Don't think they'll put many climbs though, with Aprica the next day.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same. That will make it 3 years without a long stage with multiple climbs in the dolomites (or 4 if you don't want to remember that anticlimatic stage finish in Cortina ). To be fair, the 2013 route change wasn't their fault and it was still cool, waiting for the riders on the Tre Cime while it was snowing, but this stage would have been way better

 

[barmaher]

That's nice 5000m of climbing. Although the first weekend isn't ideal, it's still way better than this year.

 

[Eshnar]

99.9999999999999999999999999% Torino.

well, looks like all went down the drain...
http://www.lastampa.it/2014/07/31/cronaca/non-ci-sono-i-soldi-e-il-giro-non-arriva-qeb8jBhTRo6sUMBeuRpBcN/pagina.html

The article says there are financial issues for Turin and the finish will be in Milan, although the last stage could even be Turin - Milan. The Finestre-Sestriere stage looks safe though.

While a local newspaper said that the MTF to the Sorgenti del Piave could be cancelled too.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Since they should have an ITT just a few days earlier, I guess they'll have a road stage. Don't think they'll put many climbs though, with Aprica the next day.

I guess that means it will be another Giro with - at most - 2 proper HC climbs per mountain stage, seeing as the mountain stages in the third week are not likely to be packed with big climbs, either. The hardest - stage 19 - probably has two, if it's more or less the same as the canceled 2001(?) Giro stage.

The Sestriere stage probably only has Finestre, as always, but it's unlikely that much will happen there, anyway.

 

[Eshnar]

I guess that means it will be another Giro with - at most - 2 proper HC climbs per mountain stage, seeing as the mountain stages in the third week are not likely to be packed with big climbs, either. The hardest - stage 19 - probably has two, if it's more or less the same as the canceled 2001(?) Giro stage.

Well, we have yet to see what they'll throw in on stage 15. Also the stage to Cervinia could be charged.
Stage 19 will be very likely only Fauniera/S.Anna di Vinadio, while on stage 20 they could definitely put something before Finestre.

The Sestriere stage probably only has Finestre, as always, but it's unlikely that much will happen there, anyway.

Don't quite see your point here.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Don't quite see your point here.

I don't think it matters all that much if they add Moncenisio(sp?) as well. With that valley + 2nd category climb finish, combined with the fact that it's the final GC stage I don't think riders high up on GC will risk an attack from far out, regardless of how many big climbs that stage has.

The rider who is in the lead at that point is most likely the best climber anyway, if the rumored route is more or less correct.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Well, we have yet to see what they'll throw in on stage 15. Also the stage to Cervinia could be charged.
Stage 19 will be very likely only Fauniera/S.Anna di Vinadio, while on stage 20 they could definitely put something before Finestre.

Don't quite see your point here.

Col Tze Core -> Champremier -> Col de Saint Pantaléon -> Cervinia please.

Even better if they just finished in Châtillon rather than doing Cervinia, as those three climbs are all tougher and Saint Pantaléon is the least steep of the three.

 

[May0maniac]

http://www.giroditaliaciclismo.com/giro-ditalia-2015/giro-ditalia-difficile-larrivo-sorgenti-piave/
Money problems for the sorgenti del Piave stage, they don't seem to have the money to make the street from Val Visdende to Monte Peralba raceable. If the local oganizers don't get fnancial help a TT in the same region seems to be the alternative, Monte Grappa from Caupo di Seren, Belluno – Feltre on the pedemontana or Farra d’Alpago – Cansiglio. Cansiglio would be great, i think 1968 was the last time they climbed it from the province of Belluno was 1968.

 

[Eshnar]

http://www.giroditaliaciclismo.com/giro-ditalia-2015/giro-ditalia-difficile-larrivo-sorgenti-piave/
Money problems for the sorgenti del Piave stage, they don't seem to have the money to make the street from Val Visdende to Monte Peralba raceable. If the local oganizers don't get fnancial help a TT in the same region seems to be the alternative, Monte Grappa from Caupo di Seren, Belluno – Feltre on the pedemontana or Farra d’Alpago – Cansiglio. Cansiglio would be great, i think 1968 was the last time they climbed it from the province of Belluno was 1968.

Yeah, I read it too. Now it looks like they'll have a mixed ITT from Belluno to Feltre instead of the flat one between Treviso and Jesolo. And this bothers me a lot. Still too early to tell though. And in addiction there are also rumours of a finish in Verbania (I guess it would be stage 17). I suppose it will be pan flat, unless one of the next stages is not a MTF like it's supposed to be... in which case they could throw in the Alpe Segletta. That would be awesome.

 

[May0maniac]

http://www.giroditaliaciclismo.com/giro-ditalia-2015/giro-ditalia-2015-spunta-labetone/
Sorgenti del Piave stage seems less and less likely, but the 4th stage could have a mtf on Abetone
Stage 4&5 could look like this:
4° tappa Forte dei Marmi – Abetone.
5° tappa Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia.
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=71052&tp=n
The stage wth Mortirolo and Aprica was cnfirmed, Aprica will be raced like in 2010, Mortirolo from the classic Mazzo di Valtellina side

 

[pink_jersey]

http://www.giroditaliaciclismo.com/giro-ditalia-2015/giro-ditalia-2015-spunta-labetone/
Sorgenti del Piave stage seems less and less likely, but the 4th stage could have a mtf on Abetone
Stage 4&5 could look like this:
4° tappa Forte dei Marmi – Abetone.
5° tappa Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia.
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=71052&tp=n
The stage wth Mortirolo and Aprica was cnfirmed, Aprica will be raced like in 2010, Mortirolo from the classic Mazzo di Valtellina side

Abetone after Cimone would be crazy.

 

[roundabout]

I'll settle for just Pradaccio-Abetone combo

 

[Eshnar]

Abetone after Cimone would be crazy.

Highly unlikely. I hope they're gonna climb the Pradaccio though.

 

[May0maniac]

Highly unlikely. I hope they're gonna climb the Pradaccio though.

Me too, we could get a pretty good first week

 

[May0maniac]

http://www.giroditaliaciclismo.com/giro-ditalia-2015/giro-ditalia-2015-tappe-in-anteprima/
They think the whole giro could look like this:
9 maggio, 1° tappa San Lorenzo a Mare – Sanremo (Cronosquadre)
10 maggio, 2° tappa Albenga – Genova
11 maggio, 3° tappa Chiavari – La Spezia
12 maggio, 4° tappa Forte dei Marmi – Abetone
13 maggio, 5° tappa Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia
14 maggio, 6° tappa Tappa nel Lazio
15 maggio, 7° tappa Tappa in Campania
16 maggio, 8° tappa Torre del Greco - Termoli
17 maggio, 9° tappa Ceglie Messapica
18 maggio, Riposo
19 maggio, 10° tappa Probabile tappa nelle Marche
20 maggio, 11° tappa Jesolo
21 maggio, 12° tappa Tarvisio
22 maggio, 13° tappa Belluno Feltre (Cronometro)
23 maggio, 14° tappa Vicenza (Monte Berico)
24 maggio, 15° tappa Aprica (con Mortirolo)
25 maggio, Riposo
26 maggio, 16° tappa Lugano
27 maggio, 17° tappa Verbania
28 maggio, 18° tappa Cervinia
29 maggio, 19° tappa S.Anna Vinadio (con Fauniera)
30 maggio, 20° tappa Sestriere (con Colle delle Finestre)
31 maggio, 21° tappa Torino – Milano.
No Plan de Corones seems strange to me, it was already a done deal in 2013 for this year, then the Gavia-Stelvio stage got cancelled and happened this year, so i was pretty sure that ist would happen this year.
A few weeks ago the organisers of the Super Giro Dolomiti told a local newspaper that there are talks about a stage that would be very similar to this race at the 2016 giro and that they are pretty confident about it.
The race looks like this

4820m of climbing, would be a great stage

 

[Eshnar]

New rumours:
- MTF to Abetone looks pretty much confirmed. Still unclear whether they'll climb the Pradaccio or something else.
- Stage 15 will be a MTF to Madonna di Campiglio, then rest day, then the Mortirolo stage.
- Stage finish in Imola (I mean at the famous Autodromo) after a hilly route, in the end of the first week OR the start of the second (stage 8/10)
- Sorgenti del Piave looks definitely dropped.

So here's my new prediction for the route (with uncertanty shown with * number):
* -> guessed
***** -> official

Stage 1: San Lorenzo a Mare – Sanremo TTT *****
Stage 2: Albenga - Genova *****
Stage 3: Sestri Levante - La Spezia *****
Stage 4: Forte dei Marmi - Abetone MTF ****
Stage 5: Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia ***
Stage 6: ??? - ???
Stage 7: ??? - ???
Stage 8: Torre del Greco - Termoli ***
Stage 9: ??? - Ceglie Messapica **
rest
Stage 10: ??? - Imola ***
Stage 11: Imola - Vicenza ***
Stage 12: Treviso - Jesolo OR Belluno - Feltre (both ITT) ****
Stage 13: ??? - Nervesa della Battaglia ***
Stage 14: ??? - Plan de Corones MTF **
Stage 15: ??? - Madonna di Campiglio MTF ****
rest
Stage 16: ??? - Aprica OR Tirano (with Mortirolo from Mazzo) ****
Stage 17: ??? - Lugano **
Stage 18: Lugano - Verbania ****
Stage 19: ??? - Cervinia OR S.Anna di Vinadio (likely the former) MTF ****
Stage 20: ??? - Sestriere (with Finestre) MTF ****
Stage 21: Torino - Milano ****

NOTE:
- There must be another TT somewhere. No clue where.
- Since Mortirolo is on stage 16, I'm sure one between Cervinia and S.Anna has been dropped, also considering that the stage to Verbania is rumoured to be Alpe Segletta descent finish.
- Torre del Greco is at the foot of the Vesuvius...

 

[fauniera]

Stage 4: Forte dei Marmi - Abetone MTF ****

That early in the race probably means without San Pellegrino in Alpe, i'm afraid.

Stage 19: ??? - Cervinia OR S.Anna di Vinadio (likely the former) MTF ****
[...] I'm sure one between Cervinia and S.Anna has been dropped, also considering that the stage to Verbania is rumoured to be Alpe Segletta descent finish.

Again no Fauniera? Cervinia is boring.

 

[burning]

I know that this is OT, but do you guys have any info about Lombardia?