2015 Giro Stage 14: Treviso – Valdobbiadene 59.4 kms ITT

[Von Mises]

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Full intermediate times and also sector times calculated:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IIQGUaQydKnh5gvZqZ2Fse56SRZkn7b3I7f9HPM68rk/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you.
Contador was very good.
Aru and Uran were poor in first part, but were able to limit their losses (relatively) during second part.
Porte was bad from start to finish.
Landa was awful during first 39 km, but better than Aru during last 20 km.
Hesjedal was almost as good as Contador during last 20 km.
Kangert was fastest during last 20 km.

 

[Miburo]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Maybe on the dutch nationals

 

[Red Rick]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Maybe on the dutch nationals

The Dutch are so good at disappointing when it matters I'm actually suprised to see a Dutchman winning the Nats each year

 

[Arnout]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

But he hasn't, so he isn't.

Consequently noone care about him.

 

[Richeypen]

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I'm not a fan of TTs this long in a GT.

I am.

Me too, a long ITT extract the strongest rider in the best possible way. Of course it adds balance to a well designed parcours as well.

Exactly. A well balanced route needs good TT kilometres

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Maybe on the dutch nationals

The Dutch are so good at disappointing when it matters I'm actually suprised to see a Dutchman winning the Nats each year

LMAO

 

[Gigs_98]

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It should come later on though. The great thing of a TT is that it's always hard to predict how well someone's going to do, despite form. This means even those ahead in GC can't rest on their laurels. Right now Contador only has to control because all stages are quite similar from one to the next.

I do like long TTs, especially since they're boring to watch. Rather have one long one than two shorter ones taking up two race days.

I think you can't say that generally. For example, do you think Quintana would have attacked on the stelvio descent last year if he hadn't lost so much time in the TT. To take this year as an example, imagine this long TT would be on the final day and Aru would be 10 seconds in front of contador. In this case he would probably try something on the last km´s of the finestre because he thinks he just needs about 1 minute more to win the giro. Now he is 2,5 minutes back so he knows he has to do something special. First of all he will attack in every single situation he has in the next week and if nothing changes he will probably attack on the first kilometers of finestre and just risk absolutely everything.

 

[Tank Engine]

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You had some good calls in there. The real surprise for me was Felline. In last year's Giro TT he was around 139th and 8:22 down. This year, 8th, and he beat Durbridge!

The thing about Ryder is he's a very good rider, and respected, yet everyone finishes describing him with a "but he ...." As a result (and partially because he's such a west-coast, laid back guy), he stays well under the radar. He gets much less notice than weaker personalities. That's a big advantage going into the 3rd week.

An example of this is the comparison to Zakarin; finishes the TT 5 minutes down, sits way back in GC over an hour down, and is nowhere in Pts or Mtn classifications. Yet has his own thread in here and was quoted in every 4th or 5th post.

Felline also surprised me (as well as Kruijswijk). He's a great all round rider. The hills at the end would have been more to his liking than Durbridge's.

I really like the way Ryder has ridden the last couple of giros after a bad start. This year he's already been in a couple of breaks. Last year Rolland and Ryder played to their strengths in attacking from relatively far out, often with the help of teammates. I hope to see the same again from Ryder in the next week. He has great endurance and recuperation which makes him a really good GT rider, although he's not a great TT'er. Today would be about as good as it gets in my opinion, apart from doing a TT up a long steady French Alpine pass.

 

[MotorRouleur]

Contador was very good.
Aru & Uran were poor in 1st part, but able to limit their losses (relatively) during 2nd part.
Porte was bad from start to finish.
Landa was awful during first 39 km, but better than Aru during last 20 km.
Hesjedal was almost as good as Contador during last 20 km.
Kangert was fastest during last 20 km.

And with Ryder, he was injured in that crash the day before, to his right knee and right ankle.

 

[Bushman]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Quite a big if, no?

 

[Hakkapelit]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Maybe on the dutch nationals

The Dutch are so good at disappointing when it matters I'm actually suprised to see a Dutchman winning the Nats each year

Those not competing for a Dutch team are at an advantage ^^,

 

[elfed68]

Looks like Porte has had his predictable bad day/days once again.

Looked to me like he quit.

Ok, is it fair to say that not every rider's GC quality? Amazing 2nd man but not a leader in a GT.

 

[movingtarget]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

But he hasn't, so he isn't.

Consequently noone care about him.

But his TT ride can still be considered as a good one. He has tried hard since the start of the Giro and has ridden well even if some people don't care about him.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

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Without yesterday's crash, König would have been 3rd today...bummer.

4th I think, Amador lost a little bit of time as well.

 

[murali]

Ok, is it fair to say that not every rider's GC quality? Amazing 2nd man but not a leader in a GT.

Not everyone is a good leader.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Quite a big if, no?

Duh.

It's just a weird rider. Average on the whole, but only great recuperation

 

[Kokoso]

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Koenig: the new Zubeldia?

Without the time lost yesterday Konig would be 4th and he has been working for Porte. Top 5 still a possibility if he gets to ride for himself. Depends a bit on what Astana do and if they are prepared to risk throwing away Landa and Cataldo's top 10 in an attempt to attack.

What is Amador doing right up there? Surely he will not stay with the best in the real mountains

Van den Broeck seems to have sacrificed climbing for TTing, will lose lots of time in the mountains.
Question marks over Uran as well. Caruso is not good enough.

First ofall JvdB is still a top climber
Caruso is good enough
Uran will podium
And sure Konig woud be up if not lost time in the crash....but working for Porte ....no way has he done anything for Porte .....he has rode by himself the last 2 weeks.... have alook...

At least on Abetone Konig was pulling hard for Richie for few hardest kms.

 

[Red Rick]

Looks like Steven Kruijswijk is doing one of his famous 3rd week recuperation specials again.
If only he had the same base level of one of the stars, he'd be unbeatable

Quite a big if, no?

Duh.

It's just a weird rider. Average on the whole, but only great recuperation

Not only recuperation, he actually gets better, now all he has to do is go Giro-Suisse-Nats-Tour-Eneco-CSS-Vuelta-WRR-Lombardia and he'll be destroying everyone by the end of the season

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Kruijswijk is in good shape, and he is very strong in the third´s week. He can finish in top 10.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

What a stage! And as predicted, Kiryienka won

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Kruijswijk is in good shape, and he is very strong in the third´s week. He can finish in top 10.

If he didn't have that crazy 8 minute loss in stage 4 where Astana went berserk, he'd be in the top 5 right now then again, he'd not get all the time he got from attacks (2/3 minutes in total)