2015 Tour de France Route

[the sceptic]

Last 1.7km of the TTT:

the queen stage.

 

[Netserk]

That would actually be an interesting touch in another race where not only climbing counts in the other stages.

Teams will depend entirely on the speed of the 5th best rider. A couple of teams will probably accidentally cross the line with only 4 or 3 together and then wait for the last rider.

 

[The Hitch]

Last 1.7km of the TTT:

Are you pranking us?

So riders are literally going to get the time of the teams 5th best climber (remaining in the race)

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

That would actually be an interesting touch in another race where not only climbing counts in the other stages.

It's much more about who's (not) totally cooked at that point, 28 kms in.

Drama guaranteed.

 

[HIF I A]

Bad Luck Andy:

 

[Netserk]

^^LOL

It's much more about who's (not) totally cooked at that point, 28 kms in.

Drama guaranteed.

I can see Froome blowing up his own team there.

 

[icefire]

And this is why ASO bought Unipublic: a TTT ending on top of a hill

 

[Eshnar]

You know ASO is putting a lot of their hope on the alpe stage thinking it'll have the same effect as 3 years ago.

which was null.

 

[Ferminal]

The TTT is actually the best stage of the race. My ideal crazy rules GT is based around a similar theme.

 

[Netserk]

The TTT is actually the best stage of the race. My ideal crazy rules GT is based around a similar theme.

Would be very nice if time is taken from the first rider crossing the line.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

This route is a travesty, it makes me want to vomit.

How can they be this stupid after they designed such a nice route last year?

 

[Ferminal]

Would be very nice if time is taken from the first rider crossing the line.

Yeh, more or less. Needs to be longer though and in absence of Zomegnan mountain stages needs a harder climb at the end of it. Plus smaller teams. That way you get crazy team strategy.

 

[Netserk]

Yeh, more or less. Needs to be longer though and in absence of Zomegnan mountain stages needs a harder climb at the end of it. Plus smaller teams. That way you get crazy team strategy.

I have actually designed a HTT (hybrid TT, TTT with individual timing) in Palermo of 22km as stage 1 that first climbed Monte Pellegrino and ended on Pizzo Zella. Unfortunately it's impossible to get the correct altitude of the ascent of the first climb, so the profile looks very weird.

http://www.openrunner.com/index.php?id=4046956

 

[Miburo]

which was null.

So you're telling me the stage where Contador tried to go full *** in the tour of 2011 was null? He failed of course but wasn't it exciting?

 

[Eshnar]

So you're telling me the stage where Contador tried to go full *** in the tour of 2011 was null? He failed of course but wasn't it exciting?

I'm telling you that the effect was null. Besides making Voeckler blow up, but he would have been crushed in the ITT anyway.

Exciting, kind of.

 

[jens_attacks]

Bad Luck Andy:

brilliants

already said the route is *** and it is big time. only chance is the riders now. if someone will show up except the frenchies and nairito

 

[PirazziAttacksVino]

I didn't know where to post this and I don't think it requires a new thread.

The total race distance will be 3350km, with Prudhomme confirming that daily time bonuses of 10-6-4 seconds will also return and be a factor in deciding the final podium.

Considering that there is no long TT and the favourites will wait for the final kms of the climbs, the fact that there are bonus seconds at the top can make the climbs absolute borefests.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Would be very nice if time is taken from the first rider crossing the line.

Time of the 5th rider is much more entertaining, IMO. Watching several teams fall apart, with Vino Giro TTT-level added frustration from the team leaders. Perrrrrfect.

Let's hope for some crosswinds, too. A-grade trolling from ASO.

 

[Netserk]

I didn't know where to post this and I don't think it requires a new thread.



Considering that there is no long TT and the favourites will wait for the final kms of the climbs, the fact that there are bonus seconds at the top can make the climbs absolute borefests.

Thanks god it's only in the first week. Makes Huy and Mur de Bretagne more important and should make it more likely for the yellow jersey to shift in the first week.

 

[hrotha]

While I laughed at the Andy joke, I don't think he lost any Tours on the ITT. He lost them by his inability to take full advantage of his climbing skills.

I didn't know where to post this and I don't think it requires a new thread.



Considering that there is no long TT and the favourites will wait for the final kms of the climbs, the fact that there are bonus seconds at the top can make the climbs absolute borefests.

I was told the time bonuses were only for the first week, but that's certainly not what that quote suggests. Worrisome...

 

[fauniera]

Lots more flat between Chaussy and the beginning of Croix-de-Fer than I thought too.

They need 30 km to cover the 3 km between La Chambre and St. Etienne de Cuines. Which means they will do an extra loop in the valley, maybe to Saint Jean de Maurienne and back. The stage would have been around 110 km long without that loop (followed by another 110 km stage), so maybe they felt the need to find a few km somewhere. Or Saint Jean de Maurienne wanted to be on television twice that day.

 

[Netserk]

They need 30 km to cover the 3 km between La Chambre and St. Etienne de Cuines. Which means they will do an extra loop in the valley, maybe to Saint Jean de Maurienne and back. The stage would have been around 110 km long without that loop (followed by another 110 km stage), so maybe they felt the need to find a few km somewhere. Or Saint Jean de Maurienne wanted to be on television twice that day.

Maybe it's for the location of the points sprint that they want there?

 

[veji11]

Cobbles before the TTT is crazy.
Having a late TTT is crazy.
Lack of ITT is crazy.
Too many muritos is crazy.

Some decent mountain finishes, but there I would like two real mountain stages with 200km or more.

This is the worst GT route I have ever seen.

Maybe not THE worst but quite bad indeed. Agree with your comments.

 

[veji11]

They need 30 km to cover the 3 km between La Chambre and St. Etienne de Cuines. Which means they will do an extra loop in the valley, maybe to Saint Jean de Maurienne and back. The stage would have been around 110 km long without that loop (followed by another 110 km stage), so maybe they felt the need to find a few km somewhere. Or Saint Jean de Maurienne wanted to be on television twice that day.

I think they did to allow a breakaway of attackers from the Chaussy to take some time on the bunch as it regroups, before attacks again in the second part of the race...

 

[DFA123]

Thanks god it's only in the first week. Makes Huy and Mur de Bretagne more important and should make it more likely for the yellow jersey to shift in the first week.

That will be Quintana out of a leadership role then, when Valverde takes yellow on the Huy.