2015 Tour de France Stage 5: Arras-Amiens 189.5km

[SeriousSam]

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True, but not as horrible as the Anglo-Saxon cultural imperialism that's been spreading around for a few decades now. Even though Froomey is a boss this sickening attitude has been embodied by US- and UK Postal perfectly in cycling.

You're actually condoning the assault of Sky employees because of "Anglo-Saxon cultural imperialism"?

I am not. All I am saying is that behaviour like that doesn't come from nothing. That's something totally different to condoning or justifying it.

And I suppose women are part-responsible for being raped if they're wearing skimpy clothes too.

It appears you're missing the distinction between moral responsibility/blame and explanations as to why something occured. It's a critical distinction, and a failure to acknowledge it is an impediment to identifying the causal determinants of bad things people do to each other. To give an example, understanding how Western foreign policy might have contributed to terror is important. Remaining ignorant about it deprives us of a mechanism by which we can control the incidence of terrorism in the future. It doesn't help if every attempt to explore this matter is stopped with "So you're saying America is responsible for 9/11?!?!!?!"

Almost as important is understanding why people might not be overly fond of Sky!

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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How bad was Bouhanni's crash? I know it was enough to take him out of the Tour but how bad?

No fractions but a concussion.

 

[CatsNK]

Speeding through the feed zone.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I realise it's a flat stage and not a lot is happening, but seriously, can you lads knock it off?

 

[Vino's Mum]

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I realise it's a flat stage and not a lot is happening, but seriously, can you lads knock it off?

This.

Just opened the thread and clicked through the last couple of pages... wtf

 

[Andro]

Yeah this whole Sky-assault derail is terrible. It should be in a separate thread if you want to discuss it so badly.

 

[Fight.The.Power]

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I realise it's a flat stage and not a lot is happening, but seriously, can you lads knock it off?

+1 yup its getting boring now . . .

 

[Eagle]

Matthews struggling

 

[sir fly]

Let the French march in Herbécourt.

 

[Gigs_98]

Eurosport germany is talking about their favorite vegetables ... what an exciting stage

 

[BeagRigh]

Great story Paul...

Pete Kennaugh's sister works next to the girl in the bank who called him

 

[jsem94]

Matthews

 

[TommyGun]

A small gap has formed in just 1.5km exposed to croswind. But the road is sheltered by trees again.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Cannondale splitting the field.

 

[TMP402]

Poor Jack Bauer abandons.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Are BMC on the front now or closing a gap?

 

[Eagle]

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Are BMC on the front now or closing a gap?

On the front

 

[sir fly]

Somme strategically important...
Couple of times more over it.
But the banks are flatter and flatter.

 

[BigMac]

I think the entire Lampre team besides Rui Costa is in the second group.

Incredible. But not surprising.

 

[Gigs_98]

echelons starting

edit: or not, looked like it in the first moment

 

[Rollthedice]

Astana again nowhere to be found. Poor team for Nibs.

 

[Eagle]

Basso going to close the gap solo

 

[rainman]

Basso, Majka gapped?

 

[sir fly]

The winds of war are changeable, you know...

 

[Googolplex]

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