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MatParker117

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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...de-france-opens-with-a-13-7km-time-trial.html

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Similar start to 2009 then and I'm sure Tony Martin will enjoy his first Yellow Jersey.
 
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theyoungest

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Similar in length to 2009, but the course of course is more like 2010. Flatter than flat.

I'm happy we'll get an ITT again to start a GT, although a real prologue seems to be out of fashion.
 
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MatParker117

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theyoungest said:
Similar in length to 2009, but the course of course is more like 2010. Flatter than flat.

I'm happy we'll get an ITT again to start a GT, although a real prologue seems to be out of fashion.
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If the Panzerwagen isn't in yellow after this stage it will be quite a surprise won;t it.
 
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MatParker117 said:
If the Panzerwagen isn't in yellow after this stage it will be quite a surprise won;t it.
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It is still 19 months away. The competition can get better. Don't rule out Phinney on this distance, although parcours is not too technical.
 
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Ferminal

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Good to see a reasonable length to start with, no reason to have pointless <10km openings in a GT.

Whilst it's longer it's still technical like most prologues, so doesn't help Martin all that much.

If Cancellara and Martin showed up in Worlds form I say it would favour Cancellara slightly. Who knows where they will be in 18 months time though, and names such as Phinney/Kwiatkowski/Thomas who are more suited to short/technical TTs could potentially improve.
 
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barmaher

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A long trek down to the Pyrennees for the first weekend. Hopefully it is not all flat.

I like a chrono of between 7km and 15km to unsettle GC a bit at the start of a GT. Mix it up. A little, but not too much.
 
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Ferminal

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A long trek down to the Pyrennees for the first weekend. Hopefully it is not all flat.

I like a chrono of between 7km and 15km to unsettle GC a bit at the start of a GT. Mix it up. A little, but not too much.
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I'm confident that the Massif will feature heavily at the end of the first week. Haven't been there since 2011 and those two stages weren't the best they could do, expect something like the Vosges this year.

Then the Pyrenees end of the second week and only 2-3 days before the Alps.

To add, I think they can make a really nice route with this framework. I think I read that Zeeland will be the first road stage so hopefully some wind which could make it more exciting than a Limburg stage although hopefully not crashes... After that there is room for a Vlaanderen or Ardennes stage, avoiding the French side and cobbles which will feature in 2014. Next there could be some hills around the French Ardennes or Luxembourg before cutting SW for the mountains.
 
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Looks like a good start to the race. Not too long, could be a bit more technical, but not too bad the way it is. Still a ways down the line so hard to judge, but think Cance could probably win with very good time trial form. Lots other guys who could step up between now and 2015 though.
 
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And? He could still ride the Tour.

He quits road at end of 2014..
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This is 2015.

Anyway, no way TM is getting yellow, this one is too short and tecnical at same time. I'd go for Cameron Meyer :cool:
 
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BigMac said:
This is 2015.

Anyway, no way TM is getting yellow, this one is too short and tecnical at same time. I'd go for Cameron Meyer :cool:
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Hmm, wrong Aussie IMO. Likely contenders will include Durbridge, Phinney, Kwiatowski, Boom, Stybar, Thomas, De Ghendt, Dennis, Sagan and Froome.

Winner should still be either Cancellara or Martin, looking at the number of corners I'd go with Cance.
 
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theyoungest

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Hmm, wrong Aussie IMO. Likely contenders will include Durbridge, Phinney, Kwiatowski, Boom, Stybar, Thomas, De Ghendt, Dennis, Sagan and Froome.

Winner should still be either Cancellara or Martin, looking at the number of corners I'd go with Cance.
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Stybar? He's not exactly a great time trialist.

I'd say Kelderman deserves a mention, the prologue is in his back yard, and he will again have two more years of experience by then.
 
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theyoungest said:
Stybar? He's not exactly a great time trialist.

I'd say Kelderman deserves a mention, the prologue is in his back yard, and he will again have two more years of experience by then.
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Plus Kelderman is already good on the very short distances
 
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barmaher

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Ferminal said:
I'm confident that the Massif will feature heavily at the end of the first week. Haven't been there since 2011 and those two stages weren't the best they could do, expect something like the Vosges this year.

Then the Pyrenees end of the second week and only 2-3 days before the Alps.

To add, I think they can make a really nice route with this framework. I think I read that Zeeland will be the first road stage so hopefully some wind which could make it more exciting than a Limburg stage although hopefully not crashes... After that there is room for a Vlaanderen or Ardennes stage, avoiding the French side and cobbles which will feature in 2014. Next there could be some hills around the French Ardennes or Luxembourg before cutting SW for the mountains.
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That would be nice to see a nice Massif stage. Can anybody point me in the direction of a decent one? Either historical or hypothetical.
 
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Ferminal

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There should be plenty hypotheticals in the race design thread, quick look here are two:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=722200&postcount=368

(Stages 10 and 11)

That most infamous day in 2011 was actually a very good middle sequence (in either direction) on paper:

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Finding someone to host a finish is probably the biggest barrier, so you tend to end up with Super Besse/Mende or a descent into Saint-Flour which may just be too long.
 
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42x16ss

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theyoungest said:
Stybar? He's not exactly a great time trialist.

I'd say Kelderman deserves a mention, the prologue is in his back yard, and he will again have two more years of experience by then.
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Of course! Kelderman has always been very good at mid length TT's

I went with Stybar because there's a fair few corners and his cross background would make him fairly explosive similar to Boom.
 
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MatParker117 said:
If the Panzerwagen isn't in yellow after this stage it will be quite a surprise won;t it.
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Maybe another Panzerwagen will emerge. Who knows.
 
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