2016 Paris - Nice, March 6th - 13th, WT

[LaFlorecita]

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Think it's just heat of the moment. Absolutely nothing malicious in what G said he was actually being very complimentary about Alberto.

Flo that is being unfair. He was very humble, thankful and low key. There was no gloating or arrogance that I could see. As everyone knows I'm no Sky fan but Thomas appeared nothing more than grateful for having saved his race.

2. I guess it doesn't come through in my post but Thomas was saying he was delighted to have won, because Contador is such a legend that to beat him is amazing and special to him. I didn't take it as arrogance at all, more respect for Contador's ability.

I did not see the interview but I won't ever believe a word that comes out of a Sky rider's mouth. It's all false humility. Very good PR training, I have to give them that.

 

[carton]

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Inner ring on Twitter: Gallopin tells Eurosport he chased in case of a sprint for the stage plus "I get on well with Thomas, we talk rugby, messages each other"

I always thought those two should get along. Two of the best interviews, IMHO, as they don't parse their words like most GC guys. I guess it's partially because they shouldn't really be GC guys, but well, who am I to tell them what they should be targeting. BTW, Lotto-Soudal won both sprints and I'm entirely flummoxed as to what anyone is on about as to Gallopin defending his team's interests.

Anyway, nice to see Wellens win, "cracking stuff" by Contador, undeniable resolve by Thomas and good job by Checho doing his duty to his utmost.

 

[Bushman]

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Think it's just heat of the moment. Absolutely nothing malicious in what G said he was actually being very complimentary about Alberto.

Flo that is being unfair. He was very humble, thankful and low key. There was no gloating or arrogance that I could see. As everyone knows I'm no Sky fan but Thomas appeared nothing more than grateful for having saved his race.

2. I guess it doesn't come through in my post but Thomas was saying he was delighted to have won, because Contador is such a legend that to beat him is amazing and special to him. I didn't take it as arrogance at all, more respect for Contador's ability.

I did not see the interview but I won't ever believe a word that comes out of a Sky rider's mouth. It's all false humility. Very good PR training, I have to give them that.

Congratulations, you just took away all credibility of anything you will ever write on this forum.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Think it's just heat of the moment. Absolutely nothing malicious in what G said he was actually being very complimentary about Alberto.

Flo that is being unfair. He was very humble, thankful and low key. There was no gloating or arrogance that I could see. As everyone knows I'm no Sky fan but Thomas appeared nothing more than grateful for having saved his race.

2. I guess it doesn't come through in my post but Thomas was saying he was delighted to have won, because Contador is such a legend that to beat him is amazing and special to him. I didn't take it as arrogance at all, more respect for Contador's ability.

I did not see the interview but I won't ever believe a word that comes out of a Sky rider's mouth. It's all false humility. Very good PR training, I have to give them that.

That's fair enough, however I've watched Thomas before he even joined Sky and nothing has changed. A nice, humble man. Plus he said Contador was one of the best stage racers of all time. Can't say that's arrogant.

 

[Red Rick]

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Think it's just heat of the moment. Absolutely nothing malicious in what G said he was actually being very complimentary about Alberto.

Flo that is being unfair. He was very humble, thankful and low key. There was no gloating or arrogance that I could see. As everyone knows I'm no Sky fan but Thomas appeared nothing more than grateful for having saved his race.

2. I guess it doesn't come through in my post but Thomas was saying he was delighted to have won, because Contador is such a legend that to beat him is amazing and special to him. I didn't take it as arrogance at all, more respect for Contador's ability.

I did not see the interview but I won't ever believe a word that comes out of a Sky rider's mouth. It's all false humility. Very good PR training, I have to give them that.

Congratulations, you just took away all credibility of anything you will ever write on this forum.

Yup, let's discredit every post of everyone who ever made one biased post

 

[Kwibus]

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Thomas interview: "to beat Contador, one of the best stage races ever... it's unbelievable, the biggest win of my career for sure"

Yeah sure, go on and rub some salt in the wound. He should be thanking his lucky stars that stage 3 got cancelled.

LaFlo you shouldn't post after these kind of races/results. You are incredibly unreasonable

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I'm sure Gallopin won't be losing any sleep over it. I expect every rider who isn't Bertie is on the list already anyway

You're wrong, I like lots and lots of riders, in fact my sh*tlist mostly consists of Sky riders

Why can't you just accept what a great stage we've just witnessed, and better still, that it was your man that made it happen. I'm pleased for G to win as he was under the cosh yet fought back to hold on. However, I would have been equally pleased to see Bert win today because his teams tatics and him at his attacking best ensured we all had a great spectacle today.

Sour grapes doesn't make anyone look good.

Who the hell cares about a stage, I couldn't even enjoy it because of Sky anyway. Yes I'm very sour, I realize that, but I don't give a damn it's the internet after all And that Contador was so strong and tried so hard makes me only more upset that he lost by 4 *** seconds.

 

[BigMac]

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How can people say that contador wouln't destroyed thomas in brouilly? So ridiculous...

I know, right. On every moderately steep section Contador gapped Thomas.

Didn't G ride away in Brouilly in 2014 almost winning the stage? It's a climb that suits him well.

 

[Irondan]

Alberto really went out of PN with a bang.

What we all got to witness today is special.

I'd say his form is looking good and on track for the tour, it's too bad stage 3 was cancelled though, I think the yellow jersey would have landed somewhere else had they completed that stage.

 

[yaco]

People are forgetting that Gallopin is French and he wanted to be the number one French rider on GC.

 

[Squire]

Great stage, had everything. Happy that I for once decided to defy a bad Chinese internet connection and watch the stage live. Just had to when I read about a Contador attack 50km from the finish.

Gutted for Contador though, really hoped to see him win, but great fightback from Thomas and Henao. Don't see the reason to complain about anything. I'm a huge Contador fan too, and really appreciate the show he put on. I'm perfectly fine with other teams doing what is best for themselves, that also includes Lotto and Sky.

 

[sir fly]

Fantastic conclusion of the race.
Great season so far.

 

[TMP402]

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I'm sure Gallopin won't be losing any sleep over it. I expect every rider who isn't Bertie is on the list already anyway

You're wrong, I like lots and lots of riders, in fact my sh*tlist mostly consists of Sky riders

Are ex Sky riders on the list? For instance is Cataldo on there?

 

[Alexandre B.]

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People are forgetting that Gallopin is French and he wanted to be the number one French rider on GC.

I'm laughing right now.

 

[Kwibus]

Dont misunderstand me, the stage was great without any doubt and Geraints effort on the last descent was really impressive, but I don't know if I would say the win was deserved for Geraint. Lets be honest, this race was won by his team not by him. If he would have been isolated from the beginning of the Eze on he wouldnt have had a chance. The win was deserved for the team which was as usually superb, but the rider himself, who was maybe the 15th best on the final climb of the last stage and only managed to rescue his victory with the help of a teammate and a rugby fellow didnt really deserve a win in my opinion.

Yes it was won by his team, allthough Contador also got helped by his team today. Allthough his initial attack was reeled back in Team SKY and Thomas were clearly suffering.
But yeh ofcourse Thomas got more help from his team, but this is part of cycling. Yes Contador was likely the winner of P-N with Mnt Brouily and yes he was most likely the strongest rider going uphill, but there was to it then riding uphill.
Thomas won this and it's as simple as that.
Contador should feel good though. He's showing greatness and that's what we want to see.

 

[pablopaul]

Such a shame to see so much negativity in here. Personally I had a wonderful couple of hours enjoying the racing. Alberto attacking with panache and his never say die attitude. Henao being the ultimate teammate and helping to save the day for Thomas who showed a lot of guts to get up the final climb and gain back so much time on the descent.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Congratulations, you just took away all credibility of anything you will ever write on this forum.

I think I lost all credibility many years ago so I am not too bothered by that.

That's fair enough, however I've watched Thomas before he even joined Sky and nothing has changed. A nice, humble man. Plus he said Contador was one of the best stage racers of all time. Can't say that's arrogant.

Pricey you know I can't trust Sky riders. Maybe you are right, I wouldn't know.

 

[Kwibus]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

This is blind fanboyism and blind hate. Nothing else.

 

[Bushman]

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Think it's just heat of the moment. Absolutely nothing malicious in what G said he was actually being very complimentary about Alberto.

Flo that is being unfair. He was very humble, thankful and low key. There was no gloating or arrogance that I could see. As everyone knows I'm no Sky fan but Thomas appeared nothing more than grateful for having saved his race.

2. I guess it doesn't come through in my post but Thomas was saying he was delighted to have won, because Contador is such a legend that to beat him is amazing and special to him. I didn't take it as arrogance at all, more respect for Contador's ability.

I did not see the interview but I won't ever believe a word that comes out of a Sky rider's mouth. It's all false humility. Very good PR training, I have to give them that.

Congratulations, you just took away all credibility of anything you will ever write on this forum.

Yup, let's discredit every post of everyone who ever made one biased post

Point is it's impossible to have a sensible debate with a person who is incapable of putting his or hers emotions to the side and having some kind of perspective, which LaFlo is proving right now

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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I don't like all this talk about who "deserves" the victory. A race is being decided by who has the lowest aggregated time and who ever does that has been the fastest/smartest guy in the race.

Contador put on quite a show today, but in the end, I don't care if Thomas or Contador won. All I care about is the entertainment level and that sure was sky high today.

Regarding the whole Gallopin case, I was quick to criticize him, but I must admit that I was probably wrong and that he was right to chase down Thomas and Henao. At least it worked out for Lotto.

 

[BigMac]

It's a team sport! It's not like Sky used their numbers to trash the opposition like QS often does (reason I dislike them), but rather to help their leader. At one point G had two mates and Contador also had two with him up front, it's not Sky's fault Tinkoff was sorry-crap. The situation was pretty even.

If anything, then, either Porte or Zakarin deserved the win since they've been all by themselves the entire race. That's strenght.

 

[Orbit501]

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I'm sure Gallopin won't be losing any sleep over it. I expect every rider who isn't Bertie is on the list already anyway

You're wrong, I like lots and lots of riders, in fact my sh*tlist mostly consists of Sky riders

Why can't you just accept what a great stage we've just witnessed, and better still, that it was your man that made it happen. I'm pleased for G to win as he was under the cosh yet fought back to hold on. However, I would have been equally pleased to see Bert win today because his teams tatics and him at his attacking best ensured we all had a great spectacle today.

Sour grapes doesn't make anyone look good.

Who the hell cares about a stage, I couldn't even enjoy it because of Sky anyway. Yes I'm very sour, I realize that, but I don't give a damn it's the internet after all And that Contador was so strong and tried so hard makes me only more upset that he lost by 4 **** seconds.

Fair enough, I'll leave you to your sorrows. But when you come round I hope you'll just be left with pride for the way your man raced today. It was a great sight to see and a fitting way to finish, if this really is to be his last P-N.

P.S. Gallopin is a very exciting rider too you know. Don't hold today's events against him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Jeremy Whittle ‏@jeremycwhittle 30 min
Tinkoffs unhappy about some alleged drafting by Sky behind the motos first time down the Corniche.


Also, Fominykh of Astana fell down a ravine. According to reports he has several fractures but is conscious. Hopefully nothing too serious

 

[Carols]

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Such a shame to see so much negativity in here. Personally I had a wonderful couple of hours enjoying the racing. Alberto attacking with panache and his never say die attitude. Henao being the ultimate teammate and helping to save the day for Thomas who showed a lot of guts to get up the final climb and gain back so much time on the descent.

I agree!! It was Grande Cycling, edge of the seat stuff until the very end. The kind of racing that raises the heartbeat and keeps one coming back for more, decade after decade.

 

[pablopaul]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

This is blind fanboyism and blind hate. Nothing else.

I will never understand these kind of thoughts in a fan. It can never be good to have a such a negative obsession. Positive thoughts will always prevail over negative ones. trust me.