2018 Giro d'Italia - STAGE 10: Penne – Gualdo Tadino 239 km

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Waterloo Sunrise said:
DNP-Old said:
Waterloo Sunrise said:
Peloton needs to push on now and make the sprinter teams give up on the stage. A stitch in time saves 9.
I can sense an agenda in this post.


Every single person posting either wants Chaves to get back, or not get back. If you didn't care, you'd have no reason to watch. What a daft post.

I just want an exciting race! :D
 
Aug 3, 2015
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Dno if I hope Chaves is making it back atm. If he gets back, can he at least wait until 20 km before the finish
 
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Broccolidwarf said:
Chavez is SO lucky Viviani got caught behind too...... Quickstep is pretty much saving Chavez's Giro right now :)

Well I’m glad he is getting back in. It wouldn’t have been for the race to lose a GC contender in such circumstances. And I say that rooting for Yates
 
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Stella0596 said:
Would be a shame if he returns though, it would totally change the Giro if he didn't.

It would be a shame if he doesn't return, especially if he crashed indeed.
 
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Blanco said:
Stella0596 said:
Would be a shame if he returns though, it would totally change the Giro if he didn't.

It would be a shame if he doesn't return, especially if he crashed indeed.

Already confirmed by Matt White there was no crash - he was just bad this morning
 
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I like Chaves but any joy from seeing him get back would be easily surpassed by the anger of everyone else not properly capitalizing on this kind of favourable race situation.
 
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ontheroad said:
You'd have to wonder how the other teams have allowed the Chaves group back in having had 3 minutes on him at one stage. Daft.

Peloton never had 3 minutes on Chavez (I think it maxed at about 2 min 40 s). Those 3+ minute gaps were measured from a then-still-existing breakaway.
 
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GPS is roughly as useful as a random number generator - can the host broadcaster not just do a proper time check on a notable point, they have cameras with both groups
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
GPS is roughly as useful as a random number generator - can the host broadcaster not just do a proper time check on a notable point, they have cameras with both groups
It shouldn't be hard should it? The tunnels are probably messing up the GPS, should just remove the time gaps until they can verify its accuracy again.
 
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It hasn't been confirmed, but given that Bora helps out, maybe Bennett is there.
 
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ruamruam said:
Does anyone know if there are any sprinters left in the front group?

Sam Bennett must be there, otherwise you'd have to question why they rode at the front for a period.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
GPS is roughly as useful as a random number generator - can the host broadcaster not just do a proper time check on a notable point, they have cameras with both groups

ABSOLUTAMENTE!

Doesn't GPS basically measure how long it will take from group behind to reach the point where group ahead is at a moment - IF going on steady speed.

Thus everytime peloton hits an uphill, the gps is frantically deducting seconds and contra-effect on peloton getting to downhill...
 
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Given the lumpy nature of the terrain and the amount of climbing, I think there will be attacks off the front of the main group and still think a break could take the stage.
 
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GPS works in a steady, long flat/ascension/descent/whatever, but is useless in this kind of a rolling terrain.
 
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seldon71 said:
Waterloo Sunrise said:
GPS is roughly as useful as a random number generator - can the host broadcaster not just do a proper time check on a notable point, they have cameras with both groups

ABSOLUTAMENTE!

Doesn't GPS basically measure how long it will take from group behind to reach the point where group ahead is at a moment - IF going on steady speed.

Thus everytime peloton hits an uphill, the gps is frantically deducting seconds and contra-effect on peloton getting to downhill...
I don't think it works like that. It takes the time gap from how long it takes the chasing group to reach the same point as the lead group. Problem is that the gap is taken from motos who are zooming up the road, then braking heavily at various points. And then occasional losses of signal from tunnels, or problem relaying data, just makes it a mess.
 
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seldon71 said:
Waterloo Sunrise said:
GPS is roughly as useful as a random number generator - can the host broadcaster not just do a proper time check on a notable point, they have cameras with both groups

ABSOLUTAMENTE!

Doesn't GPS basically measure how long it will take from group behind to reach the point where group ahead is at a moment - IF going on steady speed.

Thus everytime peloton hits an uphill, the gps is frantically deducting seconds and contra-effect on peloton getting to downhill...

Im sure GPS measures distances based on gps position. when second group arrives at the same point as first group, the time difference is measured. It should be accurate no matter what the terrain, or speeds.
 
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Netserk said:
It hasn't been confirmed, but given that Bora helps out, maybe Bennett is there.

ontheroad said:
[quote="ruamruam":2anil6k4]Does anyone know if there are any sprinters left in the front group?

Sam Bennett must be there, otherwise you'd have to question why they rode at the front for a period.[/quote]


Thanks for that