2018 Giro d'Italia stage 11: Assisi – Osimo 156 km

[Netserk]

I'm quite sure that's a case of a malfunctioning sarcasm-detector, but on the other hand I really wish it's a case of playing along.

 

[Angliru]

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Froome is a long way from being my favourite rider but I am impressed that he seems determined to continue. He looks skinnier than at the start.

Well, allegedly he has 1 million reasons to continue on and maybe is contractually obligated to do so provided he is physically and medically able. But I'm just speculating of course.

 

[Valv.Piti]

What a nice and explosive finale. Yates went from the bottom in the maglia rosa - chapeau! Great stuff.

Lopez and Froome sucked as expected. Before this stage, I actually predicted Lopez to lose 30 seconds. Lets see them in the real mountains, I suspect the GC is up for some real shake up on Zonc.

 

[Angliru]

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Dumoulin is going to win this Giro and everyone but the Dutch are going to be disappointed He is boring to watch and even boring to listen to. Next year the Giro organisers will have ZERO TT KM in their race in the hope of dissuading Dumoulin from returning and yet again boring the viewers half to death.

Wow. The Chicken has inside tracks on teams' stage-by-stage tactical strategies AND on how all the fans will react and feel should Dumoulin win the Giro. That is some crystal ball you have there.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

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It's important that MS are patient on Zoncolan and ride a steady tempo - It's a tough climb and riders eventually fall off the peleton - Put pressure on too early and you may blow up - My view is if Yates keeps the same form he has a podium wrapped up, drops a little and its top 5, falls off a cliff and its top 10.

Think you could shift those ranges a little. Stays at the same level and he has at least a 50% chance of winning - dropping a bit and he should still get a podium given the depth in this race. Below top 5 would indeed require a very impressive collapse.

 

[Brullnux]

Great stage, I really enjoyed it. Positive riding from Yates, he knows that these stages are great areas to gain time so he's giving them his all and it paid off today. However, Dumoulin also did really well. We know he's decent but less good than Yates on this terrain so he's probably fairly happy with losing 6 seconds, especially as his performance was good too, and he recovered a couple of seconds in the last 1000m. I feel bad for Formolo, he's clearly in great shape.

As others have said, it remains to be seen how good yates is on longer and harder climbs where he can't use his (very good) 2km launch. He could aslo be good there, but he may not. We'll see on the weekend

 

[Kwibus]

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Dumoulin is such a boring rider he can win the Eneco Tour which is your combination of cobbles and Ardennes racing - Doubt any of the other GC riders could win the Eneco Tour.

Eneco as an example? LOL are u srs? Nobody cares about that race. He would've been gifted everything in his home race anyway (partly coz it's so insignificant).

It matters to true cyclingfans as it's a race that demands a unique set of abilities from riders.

The fact that there are no GT riders contesting is because they cant win it, but Dumoulin can.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Impressed by DUMO. Yates looks extremely strong still. Pinot a little disappointing today but not a disaster. We can finally write off Froome.
Exciting last few km although I would have liked to see Luisle win.

You sure? Im not writing any of Lopex, Aru and Froome of just yet. I first wanna see them on a real mountain stage

 

[Kwibus]

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Impressed by DUMO. Yates looks extremely strong still. Pinot a little disappointing today but not a disaster. We can finally write off Froome.
Exciting last few km although I would have liked to see Luisle win.

You sure? Im not writing any of Lopex, Aru and Froome of just yet. I first wanna see them on a real mountain stage

I agree. If some riders are willing to go all in on a multi mountain stage there is still a lot possibble.

It wouldnt surprise me if Froome attacks early once we reach the real mountains. Wether he will do good is uncertain, but something tells me he will try hard.

 

[The Chicken]

On Etna Yates could've gone way earlier than 2KM but ofc we all know an off script Chaves wrecked that possibility. If Yates has even 80% of his Etna form he'd be capable again of attacking way before 2KM to go point. Trouble is Dumoulin is miraculously getting stronger. *rolls eyes*

 

[Netserk]

If he had the legs to do so, he could have attacked sooner. Nothing stopped him from doing so that didn't also stop the attack he actually made.

 

[Kwibus]

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On Etna Yates could've gone way earlier than 2KM but ofc we all know an off script Chaves wrecked that possibility. If Yates has even 80% of his Etna form he'd be capable again of attacking way before 2KM to go point. Trouble is Dumoulin is miraculously getting stronger. *rolls eyes*

Ok , well you lost the benefit of the doubt here. This is just trolling.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Impressed by DUMO. Yates looks extremely strong still. Pinot a little disappointing today but not a disaster. We can finally write off Froome.
Exciting last few km although I would have liked to see Luisle win.

You sure? Im not writing any of Lopex, Aru and Froome of just yet. I first wanna see them on a real mountain stage

I'll write off everyone but Dumo, Yates and Pinot.
We know the ceiling for Pozzo and unless he pulls a Horner we know that He is not going to win.

 

[Escarabajo]

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On Etna Yates could've gone way earlier than 2KM but ofc we all know an off script Chaves wrecked that possibility. If Yates has even 80% of his Etna form he'd be capable again of attacking way before 2KM to go point. Trouble is Dumoulin is miraculously getting stronger. *rolls eyes*

 

[Oude Geuze]

Great stage today, classic Dumoulin diesel vs high octane flying black pudding, it was a nail biter for sure. 200m more of the flats and I think it would be even. I still feel like Yates could crack, best case scenario would be him and major Tom popping together and bring everyone back in contention before the itt The giro delivers year after year!


BTW please stop feeding the chicken. I mean, seriously...

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

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Impressed by DUMO. Yates looks extremely strong still. Pinot a little disappointing today but not a disaster. We can finally write off Froome.
Exciting last few km although I would have liked to see Luisle win.

You sure? Im not writing any of Lopex, Aru and Froome of just yet. I first wanna see them on a real mountain stage

I have trouble seeing Froome and Aru really bounce back, they seem to lack both the explosiveness (won't be too bad on a hard mountain stage) and the ftp (that's a deal breaker) and while Aru seems to get a little bit better, Froome isn't. Their only hope is some Nibali level voodoo, but only Nibs can do that.

Impressed by DUMO. Yates looks extremely strong still. Pinot a little disappointing today but not a disaster. We can finally write off Froome.
Exciting last few km although I would have liked to see Luisle win.

You sure? Im not writing any of Lopex, Aru and Froome of just yet. I first wanna see them on a real mountain stage

I'll write off everyone but Dumo, Yates and Pinot.
We know the ceiling for Pozzo and unless he pulls a Horner we know that He is not going to win.

Who knows about Pozzo, he might pull a 2013 Vuelta TT out of his hat, that would put him right back with Yates and ahead of Pinot.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I agree that out of these three, Lopez is the most likely to get to compete for the win while Aru is pretty unrealistic at this point tbh. Froome is somewhere in between those two.

But seriously, the hardest climb so far has been.. Etna? There are 4 very hard mountain stages left + Nevoso. Things can change rapidly, especially in the Giro. The weather can also play tricks and some might react differently...

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Man, you guys gotta stop feeding the troll. I have "The Chicken" blocked, but I end up reading his nonsense before I realize you've quoted him

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

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I agree that out of these three, Lopez is the most likely to get to compete for the win while Aru is pretty unrealistic at this point tbh. Froome is somewhere in between those two.

But seriously, the hardest climb so far has been.. Etna? There are 4 very hard mountain stages left + Nevoso. Things can change rapidly, especially in the Giro. The weather can also play tricks and some might react differently...

The weather might play tricks yep, but apart from Lopez (who might still suffer because of his "meh" bike handling skills) neither Froome nor Aru like the cold and the rain too much, i could see Aru having a third week resurrection like in 2015, but Froome would surprise me, right now it isn't just that he can't follow accelerations, it's that he is in trouble as soon as the pace picks up, had they not watched each other a bit after the attacks on the Etna he would be even further back IMO, today he had problems following even before the last climb, and with the Zonc being before the rest day, he is unlikely to improve there. But it's cycling, and it's the Giro, so you never know true.

 

[Krokro]

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On Etna Yates could've gone way earlier than 2KM but ofc we all know an off script Chaves wrecked that possibility. If Yates has even 80% of his Etna form he'd be capable again of attacking way before 2KM to go point. Trouble is Dumoulin is miraculously getting stronger. *rolls eyes*

Let's meet in the clinic for that. Remember whose from those two riders has already proven he's won a GT? And...Why am I even feeding you ffs?

 

[Andy262]

Fun stage today, and super win for Yates.

All teeing up for a cracking last 10 days.

 

[Koronin]

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Dumoulin is such a boring rider he can win the Eneco Tour which is your combination of cobbles and Ardennes racing - Doubt any of the other GC riders could win the Eneco Tour.

I think Nibali or Valverde could IF either of them ever would go it. However, due it's time frame being so close or overlapping la Vuelta Valverde will never go to it.

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

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Dumoulin is such a boring rider he can win the Eneco Tour which is your combination of cobbles and Ardennes racing - Doubt any of the other GC riders could win the Eneco Tour.

I Nibali or Valverde could IF either of them ever would go it. However, due it's time frame being so close or overlapping la Vuelta Valverde will never go to it.

Nibali actually was 3rd overall in 2006, but that was thanks to a very strong TT

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

Excellent win by Yates!
To be honest, now, I don't really care who will win it.
But that would be one of current Top-4, and I hope - the most explosive/brave warrior taking into account the whole Giro, if not - one with the most impressive win, maybe at Zoncolan.

 

[Frankschleck]

I am sorry for writing this as it shouldn't be in the thread. But how do you block people on this Forum?. The Chicken has the dumbest logic i have seen for a long time and would be happy if i couldn't see his posts any morel