2018 Spring Classics CQ game

So there are warm up races, but soon the focus moves further north, and that is when we really get started

Team
12 men Fewer riders than most games, so more reason to make every pick count.

Budget
3000 pts These are (by tradition for this game, dating from the first edition set up by CQ Manager) from the end of year lists, so 2017 points.

Scoring
CQ points from the Springtime one day races classified 1.HC or higher from Omloop Het Nieuwsblad to Liège-Bastogne-Liège. Unless disqualifications are announced by time of the release of results from LBL, I will ignore them for the purposes of this game.

We have previously had some 1.1 races, but they have usually contributed little to the game, have had few WT teams in them, and none of them last year met the threshhold that I have held in terms of at least 6 WT teams competing. So unless I am very strongly petitioned over the next week, the points are to be gained in these races:
1 24/02/2018 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad 1.WT3
2 25/02/2018 Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne 1.HC
3 03/03/2018 Strade Bianche 1.WT3
4 04/03/2018 GP Industria & Artigianato - Larciano 1.HC
5 11/03/2018 Ronde van Drenthe 1.HC
6 14/03/2018 Nokere Koerse 1.HC
7 16/03/2018 Handzame Classic 1.HC
8 17/03/2018 Milano - Sanremo 1.WT1
9 18/03/2018 GP de Denain - Porte du Hainaut 1.HC
10 21/03/2018 Driedaagse De Panne-Koksijde 1.HC
11 23/03/2018 E3 Harelbeke 1.WT2
12 25/03/2018 Gent - Wevelgem 1.WT2
13 28/03/2018 Dwars door Vlaanderen 1.WT3
14 01/04/2018 Ronde van Vlaanderen 1.WT1
15 04/04/2018 Scheldeprijs 1.HC
16 08/04/2018 Paris - Roubaix 1.WT1
17 11/04/2018 Brabantse Pijl 1.HC
18 15/04/2018 Amstel Gold Race 1.WT2
19 18/04/2018 Flèche Wallonne 1.WT2
20 22/04/2018 Liège - Bastogne - Liège 1.WT1

Submitting your team
As ever, in CQ format (eg QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander) to my PM box at Velorooms or Cycling News before the red flag is dropped in the Omloop (24th Feb, time will depend on your location). My bunch of underachievers has been sent to Joelsim, because he was the first to send his to me.

A dropbox spreadsheet here might help you to budget the team and to check the name formats.

Entries 10 1/2 hours to go, I'm going to bed.
AmisVelo
Armchair
Blues_in_the_Bottle
Chiron
Comodoro
DJSprtsch
DJW
Fauniera
GPBlanco
Hakkie
Joelsim
Josedin
Kazistuta
Leadbelly
LosBrolin
Madrazo
MellowVelo
NairoQ
Nathanptz
NorthAmericanScum
RoteLaterne
Russell23
Salvarani
Scrool07
Search
Shalgo
Squire
TheArt
ThePirate81
Vladimir
 
Nine entries so far, with about 8 1/2 days to go.

There are 52 riders selected so far, of whom 28 are unique picks (every team has at least one).
There are 2 riders on six of the 9 teams, 3 on five of them, and 5 on four teams.

The closer we get to the Omloop, the closer we are to the deadline: don't forget.
 
About 3 days left to get your team in.

17 teams are in so far, with 71 riders selected, 29 of them just the once. There are 6 riders on more than half the teams.

At 3000 points for 12 riders, the average spend is 250/rider. One rider has been selected (only once) who takes up four times that average budget; two men costing more than thrice that have been picked, both multiple times; while of the four riders costing between 500 and 750 that have been chosen, two are on more than half the teams, and one is a unique pick.
Four teams so far have managed to fit in three of these budget-busters, and eight have two of them. Only one team at the moment that is egalitarian enough to have no-one below 500 points.
To make up for these riders, cheaper picks are necessary: 21 riders costing less than 100 points have been nominated, and three of them are on more than half the teams.

Applying last year's results in these races to this year's teams, the scores range from 1585 to 537; popularity ranking scores vary from 35% to 86% of the current Collective Wisdom team's score.
 
Salvarani said:
No-one below 500 points? That doesnt make any sense :eek:
I think he meant to write no-one above 500 points ;) I need to try to find some time to create a team tonight. I have so many riders that focus on the classics season in my team for the main game that it shouldn't tak too much time.
 
vladimir said:
Salvarani said:
No-one below 500 points? That doesnt make any sense :eek:
I think he meant to write no-one above 500 points ;) I need to try to find some time to create a team tonight. I have so many riders that focus on the classics season in my team for the main game that it shouldn't tak too much time.
Yeah, I was just being stupid lol :D
 
vladimir said:
Salvarani said:
No-one below 500 points? That doesnt make any sense :eek:
I think he meant to write no-one above 500 points ;) I need to try to find some time to create a team tonight. I have so many riders that focus on the classics season in my team for the main game that it shouldn't tak too much time.
Of course that's what I should have said: apologies.

Nice to know that these analyses do get read at least: maybe I should make mistakes like this more often, just to check...
 
Feb 23, 2018
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Trying to figure out how to enter this contest. I just registered and I don't think it will let me PM.
 
Aug 16, 2015
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I have already sent you my team via PM, but it looks like the message wasn't delivered. Can I post my team here, since i assume that all teams are already in and that I am the last one?
 
Feb 16, 2013
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SemirS said:
I have already sent you my team via PM, but it looks like the message wasn't delivered. Can I post my team here, since i assume that all teams are already in and that I am the last one?
Seem to have the same problem here. PM remains in "Outbox".
 
Semir & Bbass: I have your teams, sent at 9:12 and 9:13 respectively this morning. I was having I lie in.

Froschi: check your inbox at Velorooms

Del1962 has also posted a team at Velorooms in apparent frustration of not getting through here. My Inbox is not full, but if your name is not in the OP or listed below,, leave a note on the board here or use Velorooms PMing.

Received overnight/this morning:
The Asian
Zaka Fan
Del1962
DFA123
Bbass
SemirS
Laarsland
Froschi

Edit: Those last entries are all within budget and legitimate (although one of them rather short on numbers).
Slight glitch on the spreadsheet sorted, so I'll start the number crunching and team analysis shortly.
 
Dec 23, 2015
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Armchair cyclist said:
I was having I lie in.
Heresy!

Word of advice to you a bit stressed out that the message is only in your outbox, I think the system here works so that it's listed in your outbox until the recipient has actually opened it. It has nothing to do with it not getting through.
 
38 teams in (there is a 39th, which I'll explain below), which is a bit of a drop from previous years, with some regulars missing, but great to have some new entrants.

Teams
Alphabetical order, price order within teams, asterisks show unique picks.

Amis Velo
Vanmarcke Sep
Stybar Zdenek
Terpstra Niki
Van Baarle Dylan
Langeveld Sebastian
Roelandts Jürgen
Offredo Yoann
Vliegen Loïc
De Vreese Laurens
De Bie Sean
Allegaert Piet
Vandenbergh Stijn

Armchair Cyclist
BENOOT Tiesj
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN LERBERGHE Bert
DEVENYNS Dries
GAUDIN Damien *
STANNARD Ian
BRESCHEL Matti
GASPAROTTO Enrico
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury

B'bass
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
LUTSENKO Alexey *
TERPSTRA Niki
ROWE Luke
GOUGEARD Alexis *
EDMONDSON Alexander
GASPAROTTO Enrico
CARBEL SVENDGAARD Michael *
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno

Blues_in_the_Bottle
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
VAN LERBERGHE Bert
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROWE Luke
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
PHINNEY Taylor
MOSER Moreno

Chiron
vanmarcke sep
van aert wout
mccarthy jay *
VAN BAARLE Dylan
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey *
conti valerio *
oss daniel
van poppel boy *
edmondson alexander
de tier floris *
phinney taylor
MOSER Moreno

Comodoro
FELLINE Fabio
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN BAARLE Dylan
CAVENDISH Mark
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
OSS Daniel
GERTS Floris
VAN SCHIP Jan-Willem *
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas *
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury

Del1962
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN POPPEL Danny
CAVENDISH Mark
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
ROSA Diego
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
NIZZOLO Giacomo
GUARDINI Andrea *
ALBANESE Vincenzo *
ENGER Sondre Holst

DFA123
Vanmarcke Sep
Stybar Zdenek
Van Aert Wout
Van Baarle Dylan
Debusschere Jens
Roelandts Jürgen
Vermote Julien
Gasparotto Enrico
Nizzolo Giacomo
Vandenbergh Stijn
Moser Moreno
Seigle Romain *

DJSprtsch
DE BUYST Jasper *
VANMARCKE Sep
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh *
DEVENYNS Dries
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
CLAEYS Dimitri *
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto *
VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter
DOUBEY Fabien *
KÖNIG Leopold
ENGER Sondre Holst

DJW
MOSCON Gianni
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
LANGEVELD Sebastian
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
MOLARD Rudy
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
STANNARD Ian
BRESCHEL Matti
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CAPIOT Amaury
BASSO Leonardo *

Fauniera
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN AERT Wout
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
BETTIOL Alberto
VAN POPPEL Danny
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
GOGL Michael *
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
GANNA Filippo
VANDENBERGH Stijn
MOSER Moreno

Froschi
VANMARCKE Sep
HAAS Nathan *
TERPSTRA Niki
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas *
BETTIOL Alberto
LANGEVELD Sebastian
ROELANDTS Jürgen
STANNARD Ian

GPBlanco
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
GESINK Robert *
OSS Daniel
WALLAYS Jelle *
DE BIE Sean
WAEYTENS Zico *
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
ENGER Sondre Holst

Hakkie
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
THWAITES Scott
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
STANNARD Ian
GASPAROTTO Enrico
BASKA Erik
CAPIOT Amaury

Joelsim
FELLINE Fabio
THEUNS Edward
VANMARCKE Sep
CAVENDISH Mark
IMPEY Daryl
COQUARD Bryan
OWEN Logan
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CAPIOT Amaury
WARLOP Jordi
ENGER Sondre Holst

Josedin
BARBIER Rudy *
VAN AERT Wout
VERMELTFOORT Coen *
VAN DER HOORN Taco *
DEVENYNS Dries
KEISSE Iljo *
DEVRIENDT Tom *
VENDRAME Andrea *
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
JAKOBSEN Fabio *
MCNULTY Brandon *
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose *

Kazistuta
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
FELLINE Fabio
VANMARCKE Sep
COQUARD Bryan
NAESEN Lawrence
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
GANNA Filippo
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
BOECKMANS Kris

Laarsland
COLBRELLI Sonny *
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
ROELANDTS Jürgen
OSS Daniel
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
BIERMANS Jenthe
GANNA Filippo
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury

Leadbelly
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
EDMONDSON Alexander
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
MOSER Moreno
MARCOTTE Eric *
ENGER Sondre Holst

Los Brolin
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
ROELANDTS Jürgen
KENNAUGH Peter
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
MOSER Moreno
ENGER Sondre Holst

Madrazo
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
BLYTHE Adam
ROELANDTS Jürgen
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
STANNARD Ian
GERTS Floris
BRESCHEL Matti
GASPAROTTO Enrico
VANDENBERGH Stijn

Mellow Velo
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
VAN BAARLE Dylan
COQUARD Bryan
STANNARD Ian
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
BOECKMANS Kris
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Beñat *

NairoQ
THEUNS Edward
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
VAKOC Petr *
DEVENYNS Dries
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
STANNARD Ian
HAUSSLER Heinrich
BIERMANS Jenthe
VANDENBERGH Stijn
MOSER Moreno
KÖNIG Leopold

Nathanptz
STYBAR Zdenek
VALGREN ANDERSEN Michael
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROOSEN Timo
EIKING Odd Christian *
OSS Daniel
THWAITES Scott
KENNAUGH Peter
GERTS Floris
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury

NorthAmericanScum
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN AERT Wout
BOOM Lars *
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
VERMOTE Julien
OSS Daniel
NAESEN Lawrence
OWEN Logan
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich

Rote Laterne
MOSCON Gianni
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
TERPSTRA Niki
NIZZOLO Giacomo
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
GUARNIERI Jacopo *
ENGER Sondre Holst
GAREL Adrien *
TANNER David *

Russell23
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
OSS Daniel
THWAITES Scott
STANNARD Ian
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury

Salvarani
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
BETTIOL Alberto
ROOSEN Timo
LIGTHART Pim *
BLYTHE Adam
SINKELDAM Ramon *
ROELANDTS Jürgen
VERMOTE Julien
TEUNISSEN Mike *
THWAITES Scott
VLIEGEN Loïc
DE BIE Sean

Scrool07
BENOOT Tiesj
TERPSTRA Niki
VANENDERT Jelle *
LANGEVELD Sebastian
DEVENYNS Dries
MOLARD Rudy
COQUARD Bryan
OFFREDO Yoann
DE VREESE Laurens
BRESCHEL Matti
VANSPEYBROUCK Pieter
VANDENBERGH Stijn

Search
MOSCON Gianni
FELLINE Fabio
STYBAR Zdenek
VAN POPPEL Danny
GATTO Oscar *
GASPAROTTO Enrico
NIZZOLO Giacomo
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
DE BACKER Bert *
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno

SemirS
NAESEN Oliver *
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN BAARLE Dylan
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume
HAYMAN Mathew *
STANNARD Ian
DE VREESE Laurens
PLANCKAERT Edward *
BRESCHEL Matti
BASKA Erik
BIERMANS Jenthe
LEEMANS Rob *

Shalgo
DEGENKOLB John *
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
ROSA Diego
STANNARD Ian
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
ENGER Sondre Holst

So 2017
GILBERT Philippe *
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
LANGEVELD Sebastian
ROELANDTS Jürgen
VALLEE Boris *
SISR Frantisek *
ALLEGAERT Piet
VANDENBERGH Stijn
FARAZIJN Maxime *
MORICE Julien *
VAN ROOY Kenneth *

Squire
MOSCON Gianni
STYBAR Zdenek
VAN AERT Wout
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
ROELANDTS Jürgen
HALVORSEN Kristoffer
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno
WARLOP Jordi

The Art
MOSCON Gianni
BENOOT Tiesj
LAPORTE Christophe
ROOSEN Timo
ROELANDTS Jürgen
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
GASPAROTTO Enrico
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
VANDENBERGH Stijn
CAPIOT Amaury
ENGER Sondre Holst

The Asian
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
STYBAR Zdenek
DEHAES Kenny *
TERPSTRA Niki
EDMONDSON Alexander
STANNARD Ian
GASPAROTTO Enrico
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
HAUSSLER Heinrich
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
ENGER Sondre Holst

ThePirate81
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
VAN BAARLE Dylan
IMPEY Daryl
ROELANDTS Jürgen
COQUARD Bryan
BRAMBILLA Gianluca
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DE BIE Sean
CAPIOT Amaury
MOSER Moreno

Vladimir
FELLINE Fabio
VANMARCKE Sep
STYBAR Zdenek
DEBUSSCHERE Jens
LAPORTE Christophe
FORMOLO Davide *
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
NIZZOLO Giacomo
BIERMANS Jenthe
MOSER Moreno
WARLOP Jordi
ENGER Sondre Holst

Zaka_fan
MOSCON Gianni
STYBAR Zdenek
TERPSTRA Niki
VAN BAARLE Dylan
LANGEVELD Sebastian
OFFREDO Yoann
KUZNETSOV Vyacheslav
STANNARD Ian
VANDENBERGH Stijn
PHINNEY Taylor
CAPIOT Amaury
ENGER Sondre Holst

You'll notice that Froschi's team only has 8 men; the team only came in during the small hours of this morning, and although I pointed it out to him when I eventually got up, he hasn't got back to me. His remaining budget is 66 points, so whoever he might have filled those spaces with probably won't make the difference between being a contender and an also-ran.
 

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