2018 UEC Road Elite Euro Championships, Glasgow(5-12 August)

[Bardamu]

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It's the same thing with people asking why GVA is waiting for his sprint against people like Degenkolb and Sagan. He has beaten them before after a tough race. It's possible

Van Avermaet has beaten Sagan and Degenkolb uphill, like the old Omloop finish or the Schwarzenbach uphill in switzerland. Completely different.

Yes he is very very good uphill, but in a flat sprint, GVA is by and large overrated and has hardly ever beat anyone who is truly quick. Hell, he loses nearly every time to guys who are fast but not sprinters like Roux. Who was it that went through his sprints against Valverde earlier this year and it turned out he's never won a single one, was it Koronin?

Anyway, my point is Van Avermaet's sprinting on the flat is mostly overrated. It's good but not earth shattering. If you're reliably beaten by the likes of Nathan Haas, you have to attack. Which is why he does. Van Aert not doing the same is a bit baffling. If not for the crash taking out Albasini Van Aert's only medal would be a participation one.

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GVA is not over-rated and he doesn't even compete in the same races as Valverde, so such a comparison makes no sense. I do know that GVA kicked Valverde's *** at the Olympics and that was on a route that suited Valverde a lot more.

He said his sprinting on the flat is overrated, not the overall rider.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

I think Trentin, VDP and WVA could've ended up on every position on that podium. VDP felt comfortable sprinting because he won bunch sprints against Bouhanni this year. Trentin had a teammate and won Vuelta sprints. WVA has beaten VDP in a flat sprint and also the likes of Drucker and Dupont. Saying WVA should've attacked on that last hill is rubbish. If one person should've attacked it should've been our spanish friend. Why is nobody shitting on him? Heh?

 

[tobydawq]

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I think Trentin, VDP and WVA could've ended up on every position on that podium. VDP felt comfortable sprinting because he won bunch sprints against Bouhanni this year. Trentin had a teammate and won Vuelta sprints. WVA has beaten VDP in a flat sprint and also the likes of Drucker and Dupont. Saying WVA should've attacked on that last hill is rubbish. If one person should've attacked it should've been our spanish friend. Why is nobody shitting on him? Heh?

Herrada was visibly more tired and more of a surprise inclusion in that group. Additionally, with Cimolai there, he had no chance of sneaking away.

But he probably should have tried just once.

 

[RedheadDane]

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If one person should've attacked it should've been our spanish friend. Why is nobody shitting on him? Heh?

Talking about our Spanish friend; I essentially spent the last part of the race internally screaming at the television; "Which one is it?"
I hadn't been able to find a start list before the race, and graphics writing J. Herrada Lopez is just bloody useless.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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If one person should've attacked it should've been our spanish friend. Why is nobody shitting on him? Heh?

Talking about our Spanish friend; I essentially spent the last part of the race internally screaming at the television; "Which one is it?"
I hadn't been able to find a start list before the race, and graphics writing J. Herrada Lopez is just bloody useless.

So I don't know if you figured it out already but it was Jésus :lol:

 

[RedheadDane]

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If one person should've attacked it should've been our spanish friend. Why is nobody shitting on him? Heh?

Talking about our Spanish friend; I essentially spent the last part of the race internally screaming at the television; "Which one is it?"
I hadn't been able to find a start list before the race, and graphics writing J. Herrada Lopez is just bloody useless.

So I don't know if you figured it out already but it was Jésus :lol:

I did. Finding a result list was a lot easier than finding a start list.
And the result list on PCS - which is my go-to source - had a link to the start list, but I've no clue where they'd hidden it before the race.