2019 Critérium du Dauphiné

[SHAD0W93]

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The course is not that bad as people say. Thibaut Pinot will win this bike race.

You beat me to it .

I'll do one better, he will win the MTF and place top 20 in the TT leading to victory.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Not much wrong with the course, although it's not as tough as other years, with mostly middle mountains. I wonder what Fuglsang's shape will be like.

Scenario 1: Ineos train controls everything. Kwiatkowski wins by taking bonus seconds.
Scenario 2: Buchmann wins after taking five minutes in a breakaway in stage 1.
Scenario 3: Richie Porte wins. The bookmakers declare him top favorite for the Tour.

 

[Leinster]

Stage 2 will have a gc impact. Either with a breakaway gaining 8 minutes and the new yellow jersey trying to hang on through the TT and MTF, or with a team of one solid contender (like Astana) just dropping the hammer and isolating some others to get their guy free in the last 30km.

 

[klintE]

This isn't Giro

 

[movingtarget]

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Not much wrong with the course, although it's not as tough as other years, with mostly middle mountains. I wonder what Fuglsang's shape will be like.

Scenario 1: Ineos train controls everything. Kwiatkowski wins by taking bonus seconds.
Scenario 2: Buchmann wins after taking five minutes in a breakaway in stage 1.
Scenario 3: Richie Porte wins. The bookmakers declare him top favorite for the Tour.

I can at least live with Scenario 2...........

 

[The Barb]

Not a bad route but I suspect Ineos will kill the racing and Froome will win pretty comfortably. He will be keen to assert himself as the team leader and I expect we will see him pretty close to his peak (sadly). I hope I'm wrong and something goes wrong with him and Ineos but I doubt it.

 

[Robert5091]

The ITT is similar in length to the TdF's but the TdF's is more rolling then just one lump in the middle.

 

[RedheadDane]

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This isn't Giro

That can be said about quite a few races.

 

[Poursuivant]

Kwiatkowski could win this overall if it isn't an aggressive race, but the likes of Bardet, Quintana, Yates, Fuglsang, Pinot etc will surely want to test their form.

 

[roundabout]

Pipay-les-Sept-Laux is a serious climb

https://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/PipayLesSeptLauxN.gif

I really doubt that Kwiatkowski has a chance even in a less aggressive race

 

[Pantani_lives]

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Pipay-les-Sept-Laux is a serious climb

https://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/PipayLesSeptLauxN.gif

I really doubt that Kwiatkowski has a chance even in a less aggressive race

I think you're right. It looks quite steep and very long.

 

[Robert5091]

Weather forecast is interesting for next week - possible rain every day apart from Thursday. We'll see though how accurate that is.

 

[Robert5091]

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Pipay-les-Sept-Laux is a serious climb

https://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/PipayLesSeptLauxN.gif

I really doubt that Kwiatkowski has a chance even in a less aggressive race

That profile says to me, "TRAIN WARNING!"

 

[damian13ster]

Really like the route! Unfortunately I will be travelling for most of the time so won't get to watch, but I do hope everyone at Ineos has freedom before going back into a regimen at TdF
Kwiatkowski could make this race very fun if he is allowed to!

 

[rick james]

Really like the route! Unfortunately I will be travelling for most of the time so won't get to watch, but I do hope everyone at Ineos has freedom before going back into a regimen at TdF
Kwiatkowski could make this race very fun if he is allowed to!

 

[jfazendeiro]

Cluses-Les Gets... reminds the MTT that P.Ugrumov won in 1994

 

[klintE]

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This isn't Giro

That can be said about quite a few races.

Like a lot!
But i was referring to post stating similar scenario that was happening in Gd'I this year constantly.

 

[repre]

Mark Padun will win this bike race...if he can manage to get on his bike.

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

Re: Re:

The course is not that bad as people say. Thibaut Pinot will win this bike race.

You beat me to it .

I'll do one better, he will win the MTF and place top 20 in the TT leading to victory.

Even in that scenario I'd bet on Madiot and the FDJ brains trust finding a way to mess up.

 

[Forever The Best]

Nice to see Pipay-les-Sept-Laux. Maybe it can be used in the Tour in a couple of years.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Mark Padun will win this bike race...if he can manage to get on his bike.

He got on his bike, but was in the gruppetto today...

 

[jmdirt]

Overheard:
1-"Porte (said 'Portay') should ride a different bike."
2-"He used to, but couldn't win on a French bike either." (I assume he thinks that BMC or Pinarello is French?
Me-"He rides for TREK, so they probably want him to ride their bike."
2-"None of the guys in Europe actually ride the team bikes."

 

[Leinster]

That last point was at least true back in the day. Riders would get a custom made bike or a bike they preferred sprayed up to look like the team bikes. That was easier when all the bikes were steel frames with standard gauge tubes. In these days of monocoque carbon frames, though, if you tried to pass off a respray of a Colnago as a Madone, you’d get laughed out of the UCI inspection tent.

 

[jmdirt]

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That last point was at least true back in the day. Riders would get a custom made bike or a bike they preferred sprayed up to look like the team bikes. That was easier when all the bikes were steel frames with standard gauge tubes. In these days of monocoque carbon frames, though, if you tried to pass off a respray of a Colnago as a Madone, you’d get laughed out of the UCI inspection tent.

That was one of several fun things in this exchange. The question being though, when was "back in the day"? We've got to be 20+ years at least (not counting TT bikes). The last of that in my (bad) memory was guys getting Ti bikes painted and stickered up to look like their sponsors' CroMo bikes.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Very open race now, with Froome out of it. Small advantage for Yates, although Astana will be on the attack from now on. I have a feeling that Fuglsang is 1-2 % below his best form.