2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 17: Commezzadura - Anterselva 181km

[Laplaz]

Re:

INEOS working
why?

Because Formolo is 5th in the virtual GC ranking

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re: Re:

INEOS working
why?

Because Formolo is 5th in the virtual GC ranking

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[happytramp]

Hey guys. Quick question, Ive mostly been following online because I've been on holidays. What has the Jumbo-Visma DS done that's so bad? I've heard wiggin's has been complaining about him and people on here saying Roglic has been getting terrible support from his car.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Re:

INEOS working
why?

The train lives.

 

[del1962]

Re:

Hey guys. Quick question, Ive mostly been following online because I've been on holidays. What has the Jumbo-Visma DS done that's so bad? I've heard wiggin's has been complaining about him and people on here saying Roglic has been getting terrible support from his car.

wiggins thinks the DS is overly negative in an interview the DS gave

Roglic needed bike change while support car staff where having a pee

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

Hey guys. Quick question, Ive mostly been following online because I've been on holidays. What has the Jumbo-Visma DS done that's so bad? I've heard wiggin's has been complaining about him and people on here saying Roglic has been getting terrible support from his car.

Team car stopped to take a piss on a crucial point in the stage after which Roglic got a mechanical and instead of the team car being there, Roglic had to take Tolhoek's bike on which he crashed in the descent of the Civiglio

 

[Climbing]

TBM will have a small test?

 

[repre]

Bakelants with suicide attack

 

[Scarponi]

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TBM will have a small test?

TBM = The Great Bauke Mollema?

 

[Rollthedice]

Re:

TBM will have a small test?

Would be good if they could get some help but nobody seems particularly interested.

 

[happytramp]

Re: Re:

Hey guys. Quick question, Ive mostly been following online because I've been on holidays. What has the Jumbo-Visma DS done that's so bad? I've heard wiggin's has been complaining about him and people on here saying Roglic has been getting terrible support from his car.

Team car stopped to take a piss on a crucial point in the stage after which Roglic got a mechanical and instead of the team car being there, Roglic had to take Tolhoek's bike on which he crashed in the descent of the Civiglio

Ah, I see. Thanks

 

[Climbing]

Not even a small test for Carapaz and Moviestar, GIRO OVER!

 

[Rollthedice]

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Not even a small test for Carapaz and Moviestar, GIRO OVER!

All are riding to protect their precious top 10 places, Roglic has no team to force and test anything and Nibali is in a position where Movistar has about 5 Carusos on this type of climb. And there's about 30 km of false flat until the last climb.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Re: Re:

Hey guys. Quick question, Ive mostly been following online because I've been on holidays. What has the Jumbo-Visma DS done that's so bad? I've heard wiggin's has been complaining about him and people on here saying Roglic has been getting terrible support from his car.

Team car stopped to take a piss on a crucial point in the stage after which Roglic got a mechanical and instead of the team car being there, Roglic had to take Tolhoek's bike on which he crashed in the descent of the Civiglio

Ah, I see. Thanks

Not really 2what Wiggins has been on about. He reckons Engels is taking a rather pessimistic tone in interviews rather than encouraging him.

Wiggins claims that if he were DS, he would put his arm around "P"'s shoulders, tell him that he is fantastic, and Roglic would win.

Tells us far more about Wiggins' ego than about Engels' man management.

 

[benzwire]

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You have to admit that those post-race interviews with Engels are cringe worthy. He is definitely a "glass half-empty" type of person. You need a DS to motivate and help the team/rider mentally. These top guys are all within a percent or two of each other and the psychological aspect is huge. This guy is horrible. Can you imagine him leading a troop of men into battle?!
Not only that, he totally screwed Roglic by stopping to piss at his most crucial time of need. All of the panel, not only Wiggins, are critical of Engels. Roglic really does deserve a better team and DS.

 

[ice&fire]

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Not even a small test for Carapaz and Moviestar, GIRO OVER!

They'd need to gang a sizeable bunch of teams to break Movistar train.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

Hey guys. Quick question, Ive mostly been following online because I've been on holidays. What has the Jumbo-Visma DS done that's so bad? I've heard wiggin's has been complaining about him and people on here saying Roglic has been getting terrible support from his car.

Team car stopped to take a piss on a crucial point in the stage after which Roglic got a mechanical and instead of the team car being there, Roglic had to take Tolhoek's bike on which he crashed in the descent of the Civiglio

Ah, I see. Thanks

Not really 2what Wiggins has been on about. He reckons Engels is taking a rather pessimistic tone in interviews rather than encouraging him.

Wiggins claims that if he were DS, he would put his arm around "P"'s shoulders, tell him that he is fantastic, and Roglic would win.

Tells us far more about Wiggins' ego than about Engels' man management.

There is probably some truth to Wiggins' words though even if citing the attitude at Mitchelton Scott as the counter example was a bit odd.

 

[Sestriere]

It's a bit odd. Again the peloton lets the advantage grow to the point where a catch gets unlikely before they start to chase. I mean, it's not like a lot of the GC contenders have won stages already, in fact only Carapaz and Roglic have. Nibali, Majka, Mollema (lol), Lopez, Yates, Carthy all should be interested in maybe at least getting a stage from the race. But they just sit back and start to chase when Formolo moves up to 5th on virtual GC...

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 17: Commezzadura - Anterselva 1

Apperently I was the only one thinking this would be the right place for an ambush which naturally means it would have been the right place for an ambush

 

[Red Rick]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 17: Commezzadura - Anterselva 1

Apperently I was the only one thinking this would be the right place for an ambush which naturally means it would have been the right place for an ambush

But you ruined it by watching it.

 

[SafeBet]

Excellent attack by Peters. They are watching each other behind.

 

[Climbing]

Poor Gigs always getting picked on! (only a power outage in his zone can save us!)

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 17: Commezzadura - Anterselva 1

Apperently I was the only one thinking this would be the right place for an ambush which naturally means it would have been the right place for an ambush

But you ruined it by watching it.

I'm not even watching. That's the strange part

 

[BullsFan22]

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It's a bit odd. Again the peloton lets the advantage grow to the point where a catch gets unlikely before they start to chase. I mean, it's not like a lot of the GC contenders have won stages already, in fact only Carapaz and Roglic have. Nibali, Majka, Mollema (lol), Lopez, Yates, Carthy all should be interested in maybe at least getting a stage from the race. But they just sit back and start to chase when Formolo moves up to 5th on virtual GC...

LOLlema?

 

[Rollthedice]

Where's the climb?