Giro d'Italia 2022 Giro d'Italia, Stage 4: Avola – Etna 170 km (Tuesday, May 10th)

[tobydawq]

Think there's two not in. I've 172 and Lopez on PCS and 175 finished yesterday

It was Fiorelli who was missing before but he has now been placed on the results list.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Finish 2 stages, sprint to 5th, then Abandon. Good stuff.

 

[Ricco']

It was Fiorelli who was missing before but he has now been placed on the results list.

Even the organisers are having trouble seeing the Bardiani guys.

Apart from a low key top-15 for Fiorelli and top-25 to Modolo in stage 3, they haven't cracked top-60 in any stage so far.

Androni hasn't been much better with a 58th as best result and only 4 results better than 99th, but at least they've been on breaks.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Even the organisers are having trouble seeing the Bardiani guys.

Apart from a low key top-15 for Fiorelli and top-25 to Modolo in stage 3, they haven't cracked top-60 in any stage so far.

This is why I love Gianni Savio

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Kuba not even OTL, straight DNF.

Without having to babysit him, Alpecin to spice things up in Portella Mandrazzi tomorrow?

Intermarché and Eolo might join in too, although I'm not sure it will be enough to drop that many sprinters given that Bora couldn't get rid of Démare last time up the same climb. The likes of Cavendish might struggle, though.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Survival of the fittest in the peleton. The Butterfly and the Shark eliminated.
It's not a big surprise that Lopez is the leader after Etna. Oh wait...Superman left for Krypton again.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I think Mareczko might actually be a worse climber than Ivan Quaranta, and than Kenny van Hummel, and than Andrea Guardini, or any other meme sprinter for that matter. It's actually impressive to fail to survive a unipuerto stage in general and he's done it not once, but twice.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Couldn't follow the thread today so was left having to imagine the mournful posts and gallows humour as Dumoulin and Nibali were dropped as Ineos doms rode tempo. Then just as I tuned in my tv feed cut off for 40 minutes...

Oh well, better times ahead... surely

 

[tobydawq]

I think Mareczko might actually be a worse climber than Ivan Quaranta, and than Kenny van Hummel, and than Andrea Guardini, or any other meme sprinter for that matter. It's actually impressive to fail to survive a unipuerto stage in general and he's done it not once, but twice.

Guardini won stage 18 in the Giro. That takes some surviving!

 

[staubsauger]

I think Mareczko might actually be a worse climber than Ivan Quaranta, and than Kenny van Hummel, and than Andrea Guardini, or any other meme sprinter for that matter. It's actually impressive to fail to survive a unipuerto stage in general and he's done it not once, but twice.

He runs out of fuel earlier than Kirsipuu in the mountains.

And Kirsipuu actually won GT stages and classics!

 

[Escarabajo]

fun battle for the stage win.

Meh GC day, although plenty of write offs.
Nibali... guess he is too old
Dumoulin.. just painful to watch as a fan. Guess I can totally write him off as a GC rider for the future now.
Not much other suprises.

I am not sure what the expectations for Dumoulin were for you but what happened today was really expected. I was expecting 2 guys to drop time today, Dumoulin and Yates, both for different reasons.

Having said that, some commentators in Eurosport were saying that they were expecting more of Dumoulin today and to fade later on. I am not sure if I agree with this. Knowing the type of rider that he is, I prefer to drop him now where he lacks form and not let him hang around in the front too much. I think he will gain form as we keep riding into the mountains. It is too late for him but I think we couldn't expect more of him. He will be ready for the second Grand Tour. He just lacks form.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Mareczko DNF

Great ride.

Jakub is just an unprofessional guy who refused to even try to finish the Giro a few years ago when Scinto wanted him to try it as a learning experience.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Guardini won stage 18 in the Giro. That takes some surviving!

Guardini was also pretty decent in the crosswinds in the Tour od Quatar at some point, he wasn't lazy and actually tried to improve.
The fact that Jakub has a spot on a big team while Guardini had to ride his last 2 seasons on a CT team is kinda messed up.

 

[titan31]

Intermarché and Eolo might join in too, although I'm not sure it will be enough to drop that many sprinters given that Bora couldn't get rid of Démare last time up the same climb. The likes of Cavendish might struggle, though.

Be better off throwing guys in the break and then asking Lotto and Quick Step to chase them. Not sure Trek will chase too hard if guys are 10+ minutes down.

 

[Breezy1985]

I think Mareczko might actually be a worse climber than Ivan Quaranta, and than Kenny van Hummel, and than Andrea Guardini, or

Chris Froome in his early Sky days

 

[tobydawq]

Jakub is just an unprofessional guy who refused to even try to finish the Giro a few years ago when Scinto wanted him to try it as a learning experience.

He actually managed to finish the Drôme Classic that he for some reason had been sent to.

Il Lombardia last year was a little out of reach, though...

 

[Mayomaniac]

He actually managed to finish the Drôme Classic that he for some reason had been sent to.

Il Lombardia last year was a little out of reach, though...

No idea what's the thing with him, but at this point they should stop sending him to gts unless he starts winning sprints against top competition left and right.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Guardini was also pretty decent in the crosswinds in the Tour od Quatar at some point, he wasn't lazy and actually tried to improve.
The fact that Jakub has a spot on a big team while Guardini had to ride his last 2 seasons on a CT team is kinda messed up.

To be fair, Mareczko continues to win races every now and then. Guardini went the last six years of his career without winning something that wasn't in Asia nor a .2 race, so it makes sense he had to drop to a CT team after four of those years.

 

[Mayomaniac]

He actually managed to finish the Drôme Classic that he for some reason had been sent to.

Il Lombardia last year was a little out of reach, though...

Is there some small race where he can rack up tons of wins and points during the Giro?
If yes then Alpecin could have told him to have a "bad day" today.

 

[Mayomaniac]

To be fair, Mareczko continues to win races every now and then. Guardini went the last six years of his career without winning something that wasn't in Asia nor a .2 race, so it makes sense he had to drop to a CT team after four of those years.

Fair point, but Guardini usually somehow managed to get 1 or 2 random podiums in the Arabian races against a strong sprinters field.

 

[yaco]

Alpecin should have taken Jay Vine to the Giro , instead of Mareszko - Their squad has limited climbers, and Vine could have prominently featured in breakaways.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I am not sure what the expectations for Dumoulin were for you but what happened today was really expected. I was expecting 2 guys to drop time today, Dumoulin and Yates, both for different reasons.

Having said that, some commentators in Eurosport were saying that they were expecting more of Dumoulin today and to fade later on. I am not sure if I agree with this. Knowing the type of rider that he is, I prefer to drop him now where he lacks form and not let him hang around in the front too much. I think he will gain form as we keep riding into the mountains. It is too late for him but I think we couldn't expect more of him. He will be ready for the second Grand Tour. He just lacks form.

i was clinging to hope after reports that Dumoulins altitude camp went well and he showed some strong stuff in the last week there...

but it turns out this Dumoulin is exactly the same as the UAE dumoulin. 0 progress made

 

[Ranagazoo]

I wish we had the option to choose which group/camera to follow. It's always 95% breakaway and 5% peloton regardless of what's happening

 

[Escarabajo]

i was clinging to hope after reports that Dumoulins altitude camp went well and he showed some strong stuff in the last week there...

but it turns out this Dumoulin is exactly the same as the UAE dumoulin. 0 progress made

Ok. But you can't defeat lack of form. The only way he can get better is making it through the Giro until the end. No altitude camp can replace that. IMHO.

 

[Red Rick]

Intermarché and Eolo might join in too, although I'm not sure it will be enough to drop that many sprinters given that Bora couldn't get rid of Démare last time up the same climb. The likes of Cavendish might struggle, though.

Demare was in monster form that Giro though.