2023-24 Cyclocross Game

I've been turning over the idea of a Cyclocross game for a while, but not been quite sure how to format it. Let's not miss a year though, even though this year might be a bit of a prototype.

It won't be a CQ game (because CQ doesn't do cyclocross points), and I can only see UCI rankings as a 12 month rolling score, so the points will be according to PCS.

The beauty of the fact that men's and women's races usually happen in close parallel is that we can have men and women both represented in the same game, so I am keen to make equal interest in both sets of races.

This can be up for discussion for future editions, but my sense is that, because we have essentially the same riders in all races (that have a high yield, at least), and because outside of the top few in each race, there is minimal coverage and minimal information, the CQ style selection from a huge database is unsuitable. That in turn makes the type of budget that we have for the other games something I am less confident at setting/proposing.

So, this is what I am setting up:
Your team will have 18 riders: 6 from Group A, 6 from Group B, and 6 others; you may however swap your allowance downwards (eg, 5 from A and 7 from B, or more than 6 who are not named, and less than 12 who are)
The balance of male and female riders is entirely up to you.

Your score will be the PCS cyclocross points (elite level, PCS give men's U23 points but they are not part of this game) earned by your squad since the time of you picking them (Therefore you have an incentive to get your team to me before the Koppenburg cross on Wednesday) Points already earned this season are not to be counted, nor will those between now and you sending a team.

No entries after the start of the next World Cup event (Women's race at Dendermonde on 12th November)
Finishes on 25th February (Sluitingsprijs Oostmalle)

Entries (Surname Forename: one line per rider, no other info please) by PM to me. Not many Danes, Spaniards, Portuguese or Eritreans, so fewer variants on names for me to struggle with)

The key remaining question is what are Groups A and B. They are those ranked 1-6, and 7-12 respectively, in the 2022-23 UCI rankings

MenWomen
Group A
ISERBYT EliALVARADO Ceylin Del Carmen
SWEECK LaurensBETSEMA Denise
VAN AERT WoutBRAND Lucinda
VAN DER HAAR LarsPIETERSE Puck
VAN DER POEL MathieuVAN ANROOIJ Shirin
VANTHOURENHOUT MichaelVAN EMPEL Fem
Group B
ADAMS JensBAKKER Manon
BAESTAENS VincentCLAUZEL Hélene
KUHN KevinVAN ALPHEN Aniek
NYS ThibauVAN DER HEIJDEN Inge
ORTS LLORET FelipeVAS Blanka Kata
VANDEPUTTE NielsWORST Annemarie


Let's see how it goes, and we can discuss how to set up future games as we get to the end of the season.

Good luck, and enjoy.
 
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I have submitted a team now.

I initially thought there were a fixed start date, but I guess that's my own fault for not reading the rules correctly. Still I think it would be most fair, if points are either only counted from today onwards, or if all teams get points from Koppenbergcross.

An even better scenario would be to count the points from all the races that have been ridden this season, but I'm of course only saying that, because I have some riders that may very well have achieved most of their best results already ;)
 
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I admit that the way we have started isn't ideal: hopefully that will be a first year, prototype issue. The problem is that there are races as early as August, and no-one is going to have a CX thinking head on in time for that. My current thinking is that I would use the first World Cup race as the cut off, and take soundings on whether points prior to that are counted for everyone, only from the date of submission, or whether all scores start from that date. Essentially, whether there is to be a reward for declaring early, or an advantage in waiting to see who is on form or picks up an injury.

I think that there is validity in rewarding early entry, and a few teams already have points on the board, but I hope that in a few weeks there will not be an obvious split between the first entrants and the rest.
 
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So the inaugural CX game starts: we'll see how it goes and what tweaks might improve it, and homefully increase participation, for future years.

Just 7 of us (representing 4 countries, I believe):
Armchair Cyclist
Josedin
Muddy Waters
Postman Hat
Redhead Dane
Rote Laterne
Samu Cuenca

The selections:

ArmchairJosedinMuddyPostmanRhDRote LSamu
Group A
ALVARADO Ceylin Del Carmen******
BETSEMA Denise*
ISERBYT Eli******
PIETERSE Puck*****
SWEECK Laurens*
VAN AERT Wout*
VAN ANROOIJ Shirin*
VAN DER HAAR Lars*******
VAN DER POEL Mathieu****
VAN EMPEL Fem*******
VANTHOURENHOUT Michael**
Group B
BAKKER Manon**
KUHN Kevin****
NYS Thibau******
ORTS Felipe***
VAN ALPHEN Aniek******
VAN DER HEIJDEN Inge*******
VANDEPUTTE Niels*****
VAS Blanka Kata*
WORST Annemarie***
Others
BACKSTEDT Zoe*****
BARONI Francesca*
BENTVELD Leonie**
CASASOLA Sara**
HOLMGREN Isabella*
KAMP Ryan*
KAY Anna*
KUYPERS Gerben***
MASON Cameron****
MEIN Thomas*
MUZIC Évita*
NIEUWENHUIS Joris****
NORBERT RIBEROLLE Marion***
PIDCOCK Thomas*
ROCHETTE Maghalie*
RONHAAR Pim***
SCHREIBER Marie****
VAN DE PUTTE Victor*
VAN DEN BOER Seppe*
VAN DEN BOSSCHE Angelo*
VAN DEN EIJNDEN Guus*
VAN DER VREKEN Lucas*
VAN KESSEL Corné*
VAN SINAEY Xaydée*
VAN SPEYBROEK Matti*
VANDEBOSCH Toon*
VERDONSCHOT Laura**
 
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Something of a staggered start, so the positions for a while will reflect when the teams were submitted:

Armchair Cyclist, Josedin and Redhead Dane were in in time to score at Koppenberg Cross (1st Nov)
Postman Hat, Rote Laterne and Samu Cuenca (except for one rider, changed after that event) started scoring with the Euros on 5th Nov
Muddy Waters has given us all a head start by only starting yesterday with Jaarmarktcross.

Scores going into this weekend (so from two major races for three of us, and from one for another three)

1​
ArmchairCyclist
1784​
2​
Josedin
1332​
3​
RedheadDane
1019​
4​
SamuCuenca
974​
5​
PostmanHat
885​
5​
RoteLaterne
885​
7​
MuddyWaters
0​
 
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PCS updated the women's standings very quickly, but not the men's yet, so I guess the first installment of scores will have to be tomorrow. We'll have to wait to see what their usual schedule, and therefore a reasonable expectation of updates here, is.
 
Main points earned this weekend:

ArmchairJosedinMuddyPostmanRhDRote LSamu
ALVARADO Ceylin Del Carmen
300​
300​
300​
300​
300​
300​
ISERBYT Eli
220​
220​
220​
220​
220​
220​
SWEECK Laurens
200​
RONHAAR Pim
200​
200​
200​
VAN DER HAAR Lars
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
NORBERT RIBEROLLE Marion
166​
166​
166​
BAKKER Manon
160​
160​
VAN ALPHEN Aniek
160​
160​
160​
160​
160​
160​
BACKSTEDT Zoe
140​
140​
140​
140​
140​
KUYPERS Gerben
134​
134​
134​
KUHN Kevin
120​
120​
120​
120​
NIEUWENHUIS Joris
118​
118​
118​
118​
VANDEBOSCH Toon
110​
WORST Annemarie
104​
104​
104​
ORTS Felipe
96​
96​
96​
VERDONSCHOT Laura
96​
96​
MASON Cameron
88​
88​
88​
88​
KAMP Ryan
76​
BETSEMA Denise
68​

Points this weekend:

The first 6 men home in Dendermonde helped me (very surprised to find that Laurens Sweeck is a unique pick) One of RhD's unique Van drivers had some value, and will have provided unexpected optimism for a few laps.
1​
ArmchairCyclist
2150​
2​
RoteLaterne
2002​
3​
Josedin
1872​
4​
PostmanHat
1740​
5​
SamuCuenca
1642​
6​
MuddyWaters
1598​
7​
RedheadDane
620​


Standings
I suspect that the lack of Pieterse and Backsted in my team will catch up on me eventually.
1​
ArmchairCyclist
3934​
2​
Josedin
3204​
3​
RoteLaterne
2887​
4​
PostmanHat
2625​
5​
SamuCuenca
2616​
6​
RedheadDane
1639​
7​
MuddyWaters
1598​

Here is the spreadsheet - let me know if there is a problem looking at it (but hopefully you won't be able to edit it)
As is usual with my games, it is not archived, so this link will remain relevant and as up to date as my remembering to press the save button will allow. Which means that I won't repost the link every time, but hopefully I will remember to do so occasionally.
 
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It's beginning to look like Monday morning is when PCS updates those tables.

Points from Merkplas & Troyes (RhD nearly got a point from an event in Gernelle, but her rider came in 21st, and the points were for the top 20)
ArmchairJosedinMuddyPostmanRhDRote LSamu
ALVARADO Ceylin Del Carmen
300​
300​
300​
300​
300​
300​
ISERBYT Eli
280​
280​
280​
280​
280​
280​
NIEUWENHUIS Joris
240​
240​
240​
240​
VAN DER HAAR Lars
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
KUYPERS Gerben
170​
170​
170​
PIETERSE Puck
170​
170​
170​
170​
170​
WORST Annemarie
140​
140​
140​
VAN DER HEIJDEN Inge
138​
138​
138​
138​
138​
138​
VANDEPUTTE Niels
130​
130​
130​
130​
130​
SWEECK Laurens
128​
CASASOLA Sara
120​
120​
KAMP Ryan
100​
BETSEMA Denise
96​
VANDEBOSCH Toon
92​
SCHREIBER Marie
90​
90​
90​
90​
KUHN Kevin
80​
80​
80​
80​
NYS Thibau
80​
80​
80​
80​
80​
80​

This weekend:
1​
RoteLaterne
2202​
2​
ArmchairCyclist
2090​
3​
Josedin
1976​
4​
SamuCuenca
1850​
5​
MuddyWaters
1822​
6​
PostmanHat
1752​
7​
RedheadDane
640​


Standings:
1​
ArmchairCyclist
6024​
0​
2​
Josedin
5180​
0​
3​
RoteLaterne
5089​
0​
4​
SamuCuenca
4466​
1​
5​
PostmanHat
4377​
-1​
6​
MuddyWaters
3420​
1​
7​
RedheadDane
2279​
-1​
 
Thanks for the update.
Points for Zoe Backstedt are missing ...
They are in the calculation, just not on the display: I should have said Main points from Merkplas and Troyes.
Norbert Ribole, Orts, Bakker, Van Kessel, Bendveld, Verdonschot, Baroni, Van Alphen, Rochette and Ronhaar all scored too, but I will apply a cut off at some stage each week (though it's just as easy to put all of them up if people prefer...)
 
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