Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia: Who is going to win? Pre-race poll.

[Pinot's goat]

Pinot is going for GC so most of the conversation here has been a waste of time.

 

[Riek s]

JV can't catch a break it seems. Their mid mountain climbers twindeling down. Doubt they would pull Roglic is he tested positive (in case he is asymptomatic).

Can only hope the giro wont end u with a DNS bulletin each day due to this...

Whether the team makes/made a difference is something we can only judge at the end. For all we know Remco get a covid positive and abandons/or performs like dog **** and JV does need to control the race.

 

[staubsauger]

They would immediately pull him IMHO as nobody at Jumbo or Rabobank has ever given a *** about the Giro d'Italia, except for Erik Breukink!

 

[Rob5091]

This Remco voodoo is some powerful stuff. Shame for Jumbo & Mäder.

 

[wirral]

I don't understand why a positive covid test means withdrawal.

 

[Escarabajo]

I don't understand why a positive covid test means withdrawal.

Probably before the race because they don't want to take any risks and they can replace the rider. But during the race I am pretty sure they will check the minimum viral load for contamination. Because they cannot replace the rider. Makes a difference. And of course, observe if the rider is sick, at that point there is no point.

 

[wirral]

Probably before the race because they don't want to take any risks and they can replace the rider. But during the race I am pretty sure they will check the minimum viral load for contamination. Because they cannot replace the rider. Makes a difference. And of course, observe if the rider is sick, at that point there is no point.

That makes sense.

 

[Rob5091]

Probably before the race because they don't want to take any risks and they can replace the rider. But during the race I am pretty sure they will check the minimum viral load for contamination. Because they cannot replace the rider. Makes a difference. And of course, observe if the rider is sick, at that point there is no point.

That's what happened in the Tour last year, if memory serves me correctly.

 

[Riek s]

That's what happened in the Tour last year, if memory serves me correctly.

and in the vuelta. (Ayusa tested positive but stayed)

 

[Lequack]

Giro d’Italia 2023 Opening Ceremony & Teams Presentation live​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JxMWK5EKfM

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Giro d’Italia 2023 Opening Ceremony & Teams Presentation live​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JxMWK5EKfM

I just watched this for five seconds, then the commentator didn‘t know that EF had a special jersey for the Giro and suspected they were wearing over-jerseys, then I stopped watching. How do you get paid for that level of information?

 

[Lequack]

I just watched this for five seconds, then the commentator didn‘t know that EF had a special jersey for the Giro and suspected they were wearing over-jerseys, then I stopped watching. How do you get paid for that level of information?

Try Eurosport/GCN. They have different commentators.

 

[Escarabajo]

Giro d’Italia 2023 Opening Ceremony & Teams Presentation live​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JxMWK5EKfM

Healy looks like a rock star. Maybe Uran needed another member for his band!

 

[Cookster15]

They would immediately pull him IMHO as nobody at Jumbo or Rabobank has ever given a *** about the Giro d'Italia, except for Erik Breukink!

Ever? Wasn't Steven Kruijswijk on the cusp of winning the 2016 Giro before he blew it on stage 19? They cared in 2016.

 

[staubsauger]

Ever? Wasn't Steven Kruijswijk on the cusp of winning the 2016 Giro before he blew it on stage 19? They cared in 2016.

He cared. They had zero support for him at the Giro d'Italia in the mountains.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

This Remco voodoo is some powerful stuff. Shame for Jumbo & Mäder.

If Bettiol is next, then we know it's Evenepoel pulling the strings.

 

[staubsauger]

Y'all are actually aware who won the pink jersey the last time we had a big favorites dying in 2020?

 

[Red Rick]

He cared. They had zero support for him at the Giro d'Italia in the mountains.

They even sent Roglic to help him.

 

[staubsauger]

They even sent Roglic to help him.

That was the Roglic who still was learning how to be a pro.

They didn't even send Bertjan Lindeman, nor someone worthy like George Bennett

 

[Red Rick]

That was the Roglic who still was learning how to be a pro.

They didn't even send Bertjan Lindeman, nor someone worthy like George Bennett

Yeah, but it needs to be put into the perspective. Their Tour team was terrible as well. It may be a bit easy to sleep on how terrible Jumbo used to be.

They had 3 riders at that point who could get a GT top 10 and they sent 1 of them to the Giro, it was hardly the worst.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Gotta love how the DJ is trying to cram in every rock song from '75-'85 in the little time he has.

 

[staubsauger]

Yeah, but it needs to be put into the perspective. Their Tour team was terrible as well. It may be a bit easy to sleep on how terrible Jumbo used to be.

They had 3 riders at that point who could get a GT top 10 and they sent 1 of them to the Giro, it was hardly the worst.

It was their best by accident wasn't it? The Giro d'Italia used to be Kruijswijk's favorite race. Hence why he went there.

It was all for Gesink at the Tour de France one last time , who eventually crashed in Switzerland then.

And Kruijswijk only ever learned to like the race, because Breukink introduced him to the Giro d'Italia.

It was when Erik took over that Rabobank send Menchov to Italy or later on the likes of Mollema & Kruijswijk, because the Giro d'Italia is a better testing field for the Tour than the Vuelta. Even Gesink initially should have done his grand tour debut at the 2008 Giro d'Italia, but the participation of Menchov made him swap to the Vuelta a Espana instead.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Tonton]

I just cast my vote in the poll, and Primoz Roglic is your winner; he's a better climber and he can out-sprint Remco for seconds. He will see this final ITT as his redemption, against a great champion. Stomping Alert! I don't like the match-up on this route for Remco.

1. Primoz Roglic
2. Remco Evenepoel at 56" (great Olympic games )

Ineos will go for third with plan A and B, Geraint outdoing the rest in the first two ITT as plan A. It worked at last year's Tour. Tao in the shadows.

3. I don't know...

"The rest" of the GC race will see action for that virtual 4th place: it is worth fighting for, and who knows? If someone upstairs abandons, well, well, well...that was Ineos' modus operandi at last year's TdF. and it worked out.

Many have a chance to get their best GC finish in a GT ever...or so close that it will only enhance their legacy. Pozzo or The Great Bauke Mollema can write another page of their epic story. Rigo may see a late opportunity in the twilight of his career, and when in form, his ITT is more than decent.

Bora and UAE will do good but a 5th place is about as high as they will get. They Can cannibalize themselves, Ineos has this. Almeida 5th?

Others think about stage win(s): Jay Vine and Thibaut Pinot, and for them, stage 19 has to be the feather that they want on their hat. But if they find themselves in a good GC spot, why not?

We'll find out...