2024-26 Emerging Riders CQ game

[Salvarani]

Well, I don't agree here, as I think Soderqvist has a nice potential to be a good WT riders, and I think his ceiling is yet unknown. I wouldn't compare riders just because they're from the same nation and did well in similar races so far, or at least I wouldn't expect the 2nd one to have similar success than the 1st one just based on that.

Soderqvist is a rider that until last year was almost solely focused on the mtb, and with almost no background at road racing he did great results. That tells me there should be a lot of room to grow, which has already shown in his first race as a pro rider completely focused on the road.

Cool, time will tell.

 

[RedheadDane]

Not to brag, but five of my riders are already into profit!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The only cost in this game of a rider is that they fill up a place in the team (opportunity cost, I think they called it when I did O-level Economics), so everyone is at least breaking even.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Year 1, month 2 5th Feb to 3rd March

Apart from Del Toro, who did his thing last month, the rest of the popular picks (bar August) have made themselves visible this month. But a couple of rare picks outdid them.

TRONCHON Bastien	179​	3 (DJ Sprtsch, Larry Langosta, Rufs)​	Jaen Paraiso 2nd, Alpes-Maritimes 5th, Drome 6th
BLACKMORE Joseph	179​	2 (Leadbelly, Riverside)​	2 stage wins and GC win in Rwanda
LECERF William Junior	110​	33​	stage win, 2 snds and 4th GC in Rwanda
MORGADO Antonio Tomas	104​	36​	2nd in Le Samyn, 10th in Algarve
PINARELLO Alessandro	95​	1 (Larry Langosta)​	2nd in Tour of Antalya GC
GAUTHERAT Pierre	75​	17​
RAFFERTY Darren	64​	36​
BOVEN Lars	63​	8​
CHRISTEN Jan	61​	35​
KULSET Johannes	55​	25​

Getting your name in the list above for having a rare pick (or even 2 of them) that did well doesn't necessarily make up for having missed out on a couple of the more popular performers, but it can put you right up there.

1	Leadbelly	747​
2	Rufs	676​
3	JPettersen	660​
3	Riverside	660​
5	Anderis	645​
6	Madrazo	638​
7	JonEzeitza	630​
8	Cordi	621​
9	SafeBet	620​
10	Salvarani	608​
11	Squire	593​
12	Karaev	568​
13	RoteLaterne	566​
14	Bminchow	558​
15	Skidmark	542​
16	Kazistuta	540​
16	Nyssinator	540​
18	Peixotini	534​
19	DevilsElbow	532​
20	DJSprtsch	527​
21	Hfgon1	524​
22	EvansIsTheBest	520​
23	Ingsve	514​
24	JumboVismaFan	512​
25	Nakazar	506​
26	Berflamand	500​
27	Laarsland	483​
28	Boris98	470​
29	LarryLangosta	458​
30	Ray10	450​
31	Armchair_Cyclist	447​
32	18Valve	445​
33	Houdini	437​
34	Vladimir	416​
35	Laurens147	391​
36	Fivezzz	375​
37	Blues_in_the_Bottle	372​
38	AmisVelo	363​
39	DJW	338​
40	LosBrolin	335​
41	Josedin	159​
42	SamuCuenca	140​
43	RedheadDane	66​
	CollectiveWisdom	635​
	CollectiveIgnorance	582​
	MainGame2024	544​
	Goodin2023	388​
	PopularLastEdition	517​

Standings
Not having performed much in January didn't really matter, plenty of change. But not at the very top.

1​	JonEzeitza	1375	0​
2​	Leadbelly	1312	15​
3​	Anderis	1305	1​
4​	Madrazo	1298	0​
5​	SafeBet	1270	1​
6​	Cordi	1263	1​
7​	JPettersen	1255	5​
8​	RoteLaterne	1247	-5​
9​	Salvarani	1240	-1​
10​	Hfgon1	1231	-8​
11​	Rufs	1225	8​
12​	Squire	1173	2​
13​	DJSprtsch	1125	-2​
14​	Karaev	1115	6​
15​	Kazistuta	1110	1​
16​	EvansIsTheBest	1103	-3​
17​	Riverside	1099	18​
18​	Nakazar	1084	-3​
19​	Bminchow	1082	4​
20​	Peixotini	1062	2​
21​	Houdini	1060	-12​
22​	DevilsElbow	1054	2​
23​	JumboVismaFan	1047	-2​
24​	Nyssinator	1030	4​
25​	Skidmark	1020	4​
26​	Armchair_Cyclist	1009	-8​
27​	Berflamand	995	0​
28​	Boris98	982	-2​
29​	Laarsland	950	2​
29​	DJW	950	-19​
31​	Ingsve	934	5​
32​	18Valve	915	-2​
33​	Ray10	893	1​
34​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	892	-9​
35​	Vladimir	874	-3​
36​	Fivezzz	824	-3​
37​	LarryLangosta	780	4​
38​	Laurens147	774	-1​
39​	AmisVelo	730	0​
40​	LosBrolin	668	0​
41​	Josedin	531	-3​
42​	SamuCuenca	305	0​
43​	RedheadDane	66	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	1304
	CollectiveIgnorance	1118
	MainGame2024	1066
	Goodin2023	990
	PopularLastEdition	745

Hope to get the other 2 emerging games done tomorrow.

 

[RedheadDane]

I can only improve!

 

[Anderis]

I can only improve!

Not really. There's a possibility that you'll stay on the same level.

 

[RedheadDane]

Not really. There's a possibility that you'll stay on the same level.

It can't get worse!
I would appreciate if people would not be so eager in destroying my sense of optimism!

 

[Anderis]

It can't get worse!
I would appreciate if people would not be so eager in destroying my sense of optimism!

Sorry, I'm just a natural pessimist, forgive me!

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

It can't get worse!
I would appreciate if people would not be so eager in destroying my sense of optimism!

Technically you could get a rider suspension and lose points. Although it can't possibly be as bad as laarsland going like -200 points during a week in the main game due to Quintana's DQ from the Tour. At least not until your total climbs a little. How that's for optimism ?

 

[Cordi333]

Already kicking myself for leaving Tronchon out in the last edition of the team. But well, this is a long game and I'll have to hope and wait to see if Bisiaux eventually surpasses him.

Overall, the team is looking good (still the edition that I'm performing better so early in the game) so I really shouldn't be mad.

 

[Cordi333]

Not really. There's a possibility that you'll stay on the same level.

I'm confident *s*he'll eventually surpass Samu's team, as that is the weakest by far.
But yes, unless some of Redhead early pickings outscoring in big fashion, *s*he's doomed to end 42nd.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm confident he'll eventually surpass Samu's team, as that is the weakest by far.
But yes, unless some of Redhead early pickings outscoring in big fashion, he's doomed to end 42nd.

She...

 

[rote_laterne2]

I can only improve!

You already have as your team scored their first points.

 

[RedheadDane]

You already have as your team scored their first points.

Already had by the time the update was posted.

 

[Laurens147]

Didn't have much expectation for my first game, so not being dead last so far is satisfying

 

[RedheadDane]

I had an idea! This is my "get 'em while you can" tabel. Basically riders where you'd have had to follow my tactic of including them right out of the junior years, otherwise it would have been too late.

Adrien Costa	2016	274
Evenepoel	2019	952
Simmons	2020	205
Uijtdebroeks	2022	253
Tarling	2023	530

Ironically, by the time the 2016-2018 game concluded, Costa was already retired...

 

[Cordi333]

I had an idea! This is my "get 'em while you can" tabel. Basically riders where you'd have had to follow my tactic of including them right out of the junior years, otherwise it would have been too late.

Adrien Costa	2016	274
Evenepoel	2019	952
Simmons	2020	205
Uijtdebroeks	2022	253
Tarling	2023	530

Ironically, by the time the 2016-2018 game concluded, Costa was already retired...

With Costa I wasn't playing yet, but I would have taken him no doubt. He was an awesome talent.
I took obviously Evenepoel but also Simmons, Tarling and many others who didn't do so well the first year. The only one I missed was Uijtdebroeks, because in the 22-24 game I took the bad decision of betting in some older riders so it was the only year I didn't took any 1st year. Anyway, if I remember well both Hagenes & Gregoire were before him in my list.

In conclussion, taking some top 1st years is good, in the 24-26 game I have 3 (Nordhagen, August, Bisiaux). But taking 18 1st year is not a sensible tactic imo haha

 

[RedheadDane]

But taking 18 1st year is not a sensible tactic imo haha

 

[Samu Cuenca]

As long as you pick the right 18 year olds, you'll be okay. Eržen was CTF Victorious today

 

[RedheadDane]

As long as you pick the right 18 year olds, you'll be okay. Eržen was CTF Victorious today

Yay!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Year 1, Month 3 4th to 31st March

Three of the four most popular picks suggest that we might not be as stupid as we look.

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	187​	4th in Tirreno Adriatico	41 teams​
MORGADO Antonio Tomas	141​	5th in Ronde	36​
BLACKMORE Joseph	140​	Tour de Taiwan win	2​
DE PRETTO Davide	93​	4th in Coppi e Bartali	4​
CHRISTEN Jan	78​	2nd in Milan-Torino	35​
EDVARDSEN-FREDHEIM Stian	67​		11​
GACHIGNARD Thomas	61​		1​
HERZOG Emil	55​		12​
ISIDORE Noa	52​		1​
HOLLYMAN Mason	47​		1​
UHLIG Henri	45​		1​
TEUTENBERG Tim Torn	41​		1​
GAUTHERAT Pierre	40​		17​

Points this month: (Assume the Del Toro/Morgado/Christen combo)

1	Karaev	691​	Edvardsen, Herzog, Gautherat
2	Ray10	683​	Edvardsen, Gachignard, Isidore
3	Leadbelly	674​	Blackmore, Gautherat
3	Riverside	674​	Blackmore, Edvardsen
5	Squire	671​	Edvardsen, Herzog, Gautherat
6	JumboVismaFan	643​
7	Nyssinator	642​
8	RoteLaterne	638​
9	SafeBet	626​
10	Salvarani	621​
11	Vladimir	611​
12	Rufs	606​
13	Cordi	595​
14	Nakazar	590​
15	DevilsElbow	587​
16	JPettersen	583​
17	Laurens147	582​
18	EvansIsTheBest	565​
18	AmisVelo	565​
20	Berflamand	562​
21	JonEzeitza	555​
22	Ingsve	552​
23	Anderis	542​
23	Kazistuta	542​
23	Armchair_Cyclist	542​
26	Madrazo	531​
27	Skidmark	528​
28	Peixotini	518​
29	Houdini	515​
29	18Valve	515​
31	Blues_in_the_Bottle	506​
32	LosBrolin	492​
33	Hfgon1	479​
34	Bminchow	477​
35	Laarsland	465​
36	Boris98	419​
37	DJW	412​
38	Josedin	405​
39	LarryLangosta	395​
40	DJSprtsch	384​
41	Fivezzz	352​
42	SamuCuenca	106​
43	RedheadDane	70​
	CollectiveWisdom	573​
	CollectiveIgnorance	605​
	MainGame2024	562​
	Goodin2023	544​
	PopularLastEdition	420​

Standings
The scores were high, but the gaps weren't (because of prevalence of popular picks) so the changes are, for so early in the game, rather modest.

1​	Leadbelly	1986	1​
2​	JonEzeitza	1930	-1​
3​	SafeBet	1896	2​
4​	RoteLaterne	1885	4​
5​	Salvarani	1861	4​
6​	Cordi	1858	0​
7​	Anderis	1847	-4​
8​	Squire	1844	4​
9​	JPettersen	1838	-2​
10​	Rufs	1831	1​
11​	Madrazo	1829	-7​
12​	Karaev	1806	2​
13​	Riverside	1773	4​
14​	Hfgon1	1710	-4​
15​	JumboVismaFan	1690	8​
16​	Nakazar	1674	2​
17​	Nyssinator	1672	7​
18​	EvansIsTheBest	1668	-2​
19​	Kazistuta	1652	-4​
20​	DevilsElbow	1641	2​
21​	Peixotini	1580	-1​
22​	Ray10	1576	11​
23​	Houdini	1575	-2​
24​	Bminchow	1559	-5​
25​	Berflamand	1557	2​
26​	Armchair_Cyclist	1551	0​
27​	Skidmark	1548	-2​
28​	DJSprtsch	1509	-15​
29​	Ingsve	1486	2​
30​	Vladimir	1485	5​
31​	18Valve	1430	1​
32​	Laarsland	1415	-3​
33​	Boris98	1401	-5​
34​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	1398	0​
35​	DJW	1362	-6​
36​	Laurens147	1356	2​
37​	AmisVelo	1295	2​
38​	Fivezzz	1176	-2​
39​	LarryLangosta	1175	-2​
40​	LosBrolin	1160	0​
41​	Josedin	936	0​
42​	SamuCuenca	411	0​
43​	RedheadDane	136	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	1877
	CollectiveIgnorance	1502
	MainGame2024	1628
	Goodin2023	1534
	PopularLastEdition	1165

Was it Leadbelly who had a self-imposed limit of 100 (rather than 200) pre-game points in previous editions? If so, finally deciding to play the same game as the rest of us is proving good for him.

 

[Cordi333]

I was sleeping on Blackmore but he looks really great. Congrats to the 2 players that have him in their team

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ignore what I said in the Women's CQ Game thread: found a bit of time through broken appointment at work.

Year 1 Month 4 1-28 April

Popular picks doing well again: are we finally getting the hang of this?

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	288​	41​	7th in Itzulia, Asturias win
VAN DEN BROEK Frank	196​	15​	Turkey stage and GC wins
MORGADO Antonio Tomas	114​	36​	Romagna win, Asturias stage win
BLACKMORE Joseph	104​	2​	Circuit des Ardennes win, Brabantse Pijl 4th
PARET PEINTRE Valentin	91​	4​	Tour of Alps GC 4th
LOPEZ GRANIZO Harold Martin	78​	3​	Turkey 5th
HAJEK Alexander	56​	1​
CHRISTEN Jan	55​	35​

1	JonEzeitza	956​	Del Toro, Van den Broek, Morgado, Paret-P, Lopez, Christen
2	Leadbelly	937​	Del Toro, Van den Broek, Morgado, Blackmore, Christen
3	Boris98	832​	Del Toro, Van den Broek, Morgado, Paret-P, Lopez
4	DevilsElbow	813​	Del Toro, Van den Broek, Morgado, Christen
5	Cordi	807​	Del Toro, Van den Broek, Morgado, Christen
6	Ingsve	773​
7	Skidmark	769​
8	Peixotini	751​
8	18Valve	751​
10	Ray10	742​
11	DJW	733​
12	Berflamand	713​
13	SafeBet	652​
14	Houdini	650​
15	DJSprtsch	624​
16	EvansIsTheBest	621​
17	Riverside	620​
18	RoteLaterne	614​
19	Karaev	612​
19	LarryLangosta	612​
21	Squire	601​
22	JPettersen	589​
23	Anderis	584​
24	Madrazo	579​
24	Bminchow	579​
26	Nyssinator	578​
27	Kazistuta	575​
28	Hfgon1	570​
29	Salvarani	566​
29	Laarsland	566​
31	AmisVelo	559​
32	Vladimir	557​
33	Nakazar	552​
34	Rufs	548​
35	LosBrolin	542​
36	Armchair_Cyclist	532​
36	Blues_in_the_Bottle	532​
38	JumboVismaFan	524​
39	Laurens147	490​
40	Fivezzz	485​
41	Josedin	342​
42	SamuCuenca	231​
43	RedheadDane	40​
	CollectiveWisdom	733​
	CollectiveIgnorance	512​
	MainGame2024	574​
	Goodin2023	907​
	PopularLastEdition	292​

Standings
The top two at the beginning of the month were both 100+ points clear of 3rd on this month's scores. Is it too early to start comparing the 8 riders that John and Lead do not share?

1​	Leadbelly	2923	0​
2​	JonEzeitza	2886	0​
3​	Cordi	2665	3​
4​	SafeBet	2548	-1​
5​	RoteLaterne	2499	-1​
6​	DevilsElbow	2454	14​
7​	Squire	2445	1​
8​	Anderis	2431	-1​
9​	JPettersen	2427	0​
9​	Salvarani	2427	-4​
11​	Karaev	2418	1​
12​	Madrazo	2408	-1​
13​	Riverside	2393	0​
14​	Rufs	2379	-4​
15​	Peixotini	2331	6​
16​	Ray10	2318	6​
17​	Skidmark	2317	10​
18​	EvansIsTheBest	2289	0​
19​	Hfgon1	2280	-5​
20​	Berflamand	2270	5​
21​	Ingsve	2259	8​
22​	Nyssinator	2250	-5​
23​	Boris98	2233	10​
24​	Kazistuta	2227	-5​
25​	Nakazar	2226	-9​
26​	Houdini	2225	-3​
27​	JumboVismaFan	2214	-12​
28​	18Valve	2181	3​
29​	Bminchow	2138	-5​
30​	DJSprtsch	2133	-2​
31​	DJW	2095	4​
32​	Armchair_Cyclist	2083	-6​
33​	Vladimir	2042	-3​
34​	Laarsland	1981	-2​
35​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	1930	-1​
36​	AmisVelo	1854	1​
37​	Laurens147	1846	-1​
38​	LarryLangosta	1787	1​
39​	LosBrolin	1702	1​
40​	Fivezzz	1661	-2​
41​	Josedin	1278	0​
42​	SamuCuenca	642	0​
43​	RedheadDane	176	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	2610
	CollectiveIgnorance	1933
	MainGame2024	2202
	Goodin2023	2441
	PopularLastEdition	1457

 

[Cordi333]

The top two at the beginning of the month were both 100+ points clear of 3rd on this month's scores. Is it too early to start comparing the 8 riders that John and Lead do not share?

Obviously. What they should do is search for the riders they don't share with my team

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Year 1, Month 5 29 April - 26 May
So what else has been going on during the Giro (although 1 relevant rider featured there)

PARET PEINTRE Valentin	198 pts​	Stage win and 2nd, 16th on GC in Giro	4 teams​
BRENNAN Matthew	94​	3rd in Circuit de Wallonie, 4th in Orlen Nations, 6th in Koln Rund	1 (RhD)​
GACHIGNARD Thomas	83​	Tro-Bro 8th, Dunquerque 9th	1 (Ray 10)​
NERURKAR Lukas	78​	4th in Frankfurt	15​
KOGUT Oded	78​	3rd in Antwerp Ports, 7th in Elfstedenronde	3​
GAUTHERAT Pierre	76​	Tro-Bro 3rd	17​
RONDEL Mathys	67​		7​
RONHAAR Pim	67​		1​
VANGHELUWE Warre	58​		1​
WIDAR Jarno	57​		12​
KOPECKY Tomas	56​		1​

The same pair were the top two last month, and lead the overall at the beginning of this session.

Rank this month	Pts this month	Main scorers
1	JonEzeitza	509​	VPP, Nerurkar, Gautherat
2	Leadbelly	401​	Kogut, Gautherat, Rondel, Widar
3	DJW	396​	VPP, Nerurkar
4	Ray10	395​	Gachignard, Nerurkar, Kogut, Ronhaar
5	Houdini	379​	VPP, Nerurkar
6	Boris98	376​	VPP, Kogut
7	SafeBet	317​
8	Squire	298​
9	Rufs	285​
10	DJSprtsch	268​
11	JPettersen	250​
12	RoteLaterne	246​
13	Nakazar	241​
14	Laurens147	240​
15	Peixotini	230​
16	EvansIsTheBest	229​
17	Cordi	214​
18	DevilsElbow	208​
19	Karaev	203​
20	Anderis	198​
21	18Valve	197​
21	RedheadDane	197​
23	LosBrolin	195​
23	Fivezzz	195​
25	Josedin	180​
26	Armchair_Cyclist	164​
27	SamuCuenca	160​
28	Hfgon1	152​
29	AmisVelo	151​
30	Nyssinator	149​
31	Vladimir	143​
32	Madrazo	135​
33	JumboVismaFan	125​
34	Salvarani	124​
34	Skidmark	124​
36	Ingsve	122​
36	Laarsland	122​
38	Blues_in_the_Bottle	113​
39	Riverside	110​
40	LarryLangosta	107​
41	Berflamand	105​
42	Bminchow	70​
43	Kazistuta	68​
	CollectiveWisdom	228​
	CollectiveIgnorance	1084​
	MainGame2024	56​
	Goodin2023	451​
	PopularLastEdition	176​

Standings
So is that it for 41 of the teams?

1​	JonEzeitza	3395	1​
2​	Leadbelly	3324	-1​
3​	Cordi	2879	0​
4​	SafeBet	2865	0​
5​	RoteLaterne	2745	0​
6​	Squire	2743	1​
7​	Ray10	2713	9​
8​	JPettersen	2677	1​
9​	Rufs	2664	5​
10​	DevilsElbow	2662	-4​
11​	Anderis	2629	-3​
12​	Karaev	2621	-1​
13​	Boris98	2609	10​
14​	Houdini	2604	12​
15​	Peixotini	2561	0​
16​	Salvarani	2551	-7​
17​	Madrazo	2543	-5​
18​	EvansIsTheBest	2518	0​
19​	Riverside	2503	-6​
20​	DJW	2491	11​
21​	Nakazar	2467	4​
22​	Skidmark	2441	-5​
23​	Hfgon1	2432	-4​
24​	DJSprtsch	2401	6​
25​	Nyssinator	2399	-3​
26​	Ingsve	2381	-5​
27​	18Valve	2378	1​
28​	Berflamand	2375	-8​
29​	JumboVismaFan	2339	-2​
30​	Kazistuta	2295	-6​
31​	Armchair_Cyclist	2247	1​
32​	Bminchow	2208	-3​
33​	Vladimir	2185	0​
34​	Laarsland	2103	0​
35​	Laurens147	2086	2​
36​	Blues_in_the_Bottle	2043	-1​
37​	AmisVelo	2005	-1​
38​	LosBrolin	1897	1​
39​	LarryLangosta	1894	-1​
40​	Fivezzz	1856	0​
41​	Josedin	1458	0​
42​	SamuCuenca	802	0​
43​	RedheadDane	373	0​
	CollectiveWisdom	2838
	CollectiveIgnorance	2760
	MainGame2024	2258
	Goodin2023	2892
	PopularLastEdition	1633