2024 Spring Classics CQ Game

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 24, 2024

Real life a bit complicated at the moment, but I hope to catch up on watching some racing this evening, so today's updates probably not until very late, or mid morning tomorrow. I'll publish the spreadsheet when I have tidied it up a bit: might get a chance to do a team similarity tab.

QueenStagiaire · Feb 24, 2024

Why did I take Moscon off my team last second again?

MADRAZO · Feb 24, 2024

Bad start with bad crash (and likely broken collorbone) for Senechal there. One of the 2 last picks I were really in doubt about together with Hoffstetter...

QueenStagiaire · Feb 24, 2024

QueenStagiaire said:
Why did I take Moscon off my team last second again?

Oh right, because he doesn‘t have it.

Salvarani · Feb 24, 2024

Tratnik paid off immediately.

del1962 · Feb 24, 2024

2nd and 4th in Omloop

EvansIsTheBest · Feb 24, 2024

RedheadDane said:
I see... @EvansIsTheBest partying like it's 2014.

Tratnik and Grégoire partying like it's 2024 though.

bminchow · Feb 24, 2024

laarsland said:
As ever I'm going in too light for the Ardennes, but the top-tier contenders were really expensive.

Annoyed I overlooked Tronchon, great potential value. Really wanted to take Dewulf and Ballerini as in the main game, but see both are yet to race and are not slated to do so in the foreseeable future either.

Best of luck to all and if anything I'm amazed you don't stuff it up more frequently, @Armchair cyclist

I think we are all weak on the Ardennes. that was my main complaint

Anderis · Feb 24, 2024

Tratnik looks like an inspired pick now.

As opposed to Bettiol.

Anderis · Feb 24, 2024

Armchair cyclist said:
So, here we are:
35 teams, unique riders marked with an asterisk

Evans is the Best PIDCOCK Thomas
12
891
GREGOIRE Romain *
1
784
SHEFFIELD Magnus
6
573
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
20
456
GAUTHERAT Pierre
4
148
TRATNIK Jan
16
121
PEAK Barnabas *
1
15
CAPIOT Amaury
22
10
ANDERSEN Idar *
1
0
GILBERT Philippe *
1
0
NIBALI Vincenzo *
1
0
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro *
1
0

@EvansIsTheBest - I really like your thinking here!

RedheadDane · Feb 24, 2024

EvansIsTheBest said:
Tratnik and Grégoire partying like it's 2024 though.

To be fair, for Grégoire, parties in 2014 were probably mostly pizza and softdrinks.

MADRAZO · Feb 24, 2024

Indeed a broken collarbone for Senechal so he will likely lose the whole spring. Maybe a boring pick but I think a quite solid one suited to the competiton that now will give a zero. Annoying since he was the last pick on my team bacause he and similar Hoffstetter just fitted the remaining points for the lats 2 places perfectly. Too bad that the alternative Politt and Gautherat combi was just 3 points too expensive

(not that I would have gone with that instead for sure but they were in the puzzle )

rote_laterne2 · Feb 24, 2024

Four of us with the Tratnik/Politt combo, but I'm the only one who has Senéchal too.

EvansIsTheBest · Feb 24, 2024

Anderis said:
@EvansIsTheBest - I really like your thinking here!

This feels like a trick to get me to admit that I did think about my team before sending it in but I'm not going to fall for it.

Anderis · Feb 24, 2024

EvansIsTheBest said:
This feels like a trick to get me to admit that I did think about my team before sending it in but I'm not going to fall for it.

It seems like you've been thinking about the response to my post almost as much as about your team before sending it in.

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 24, 2024

Let's build up to the bigger race
Race 1: Faun Ardeche Classic
Point scorers that were selected for the game

2	GREGOIRE Romain	78	1
5	VAN GILS Maxim	52	1
10	ARRIETA LIZARRAGA Igor	24	1
11	GENIETS Kévin	20	1
12	HUBY Antoine	18	1
27	CALMEJANE Lilian	5	1
30	BARRE Louis	5	1

Clearly, one for the unique picks

	Pts this race	Green points
EvansIsTheBest	78	80
Josedin	52	50
Bminchow	24	35
Sam6	20	25
Ingsve	18	15
RedheadDane	5	7.5
Vladimir	5	7.5

Not really worth doing a separate overall table at this stage. Spreadsheet seems to be working though.

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 25, 2024

The one that we really consider to be the start of spring, even though the other one is also always on the same weekend (waits for those who know otherwise)
Race 2: Omloop het Nieuwsblad

1	TRATNIK Jan	180	17
2	POLITT Nils	108	5
4	NAESEN Oliver	78	4
6	REX Laurenz	62	5
7	STUYVEN Jasper	54	1
8	PIDCOCK Thomas	46	12
10	DE LIE Arnaud	36	1
11	GAUTHERAT Pierre	30	4
12	WELLENS Tim	27	2
15	GARCIA CORTINA Ivan	20	1
16	KÜNG Stefan	18	1
18	VERMEERSCH Gianni	14	2
19	DE BONDT Dries	12	1
22	TEUNS Dylan	9	4
25	MORGADO Antonio Tomas	6	8

And 36 others with 5 each for finishing (if I refer to riders as 'fivers' in future posts in this thread, this is what I mean)

Points

main scorers

Green pts

1

DJW

360

Tratnik, Pollit, Pidcock, Morgado

80

2

Blues_in_the_Bottle

358

Tratnik, Pollit, Pidcock, Teuns

50

3

RoteLaterne

349

Tratnik, Pollit, Pidcock

35

4

Search

329

Tratnik, Naesen, de Lie

25

5

SlowClimber

317

Tratnik, Stuyven, Gautherat, Wellens, Morgado

15

6

QueenStagiare

313

Tratnik, Pollit

10

7

AmisVelo

303

5

8

Rufs

284

3

9

EvansIsTheBest

266

2

10

Salvarani

257

1

11

Madrazo

251

12

Anderis

246

13

Laarsland

216

14

Triley36

215

15

Scribers

214

16

Del1962

211

17

Laurens147

204

18

JumboVismaFan

200

19

DJSprtsch

138

20

Vladimir

122

21

NTFC1962

118

22

DevilsElbow

111

23

Hfgon1

93

24

Pitinho91

77

25

Peixotini

76

26

Leadbelly

64

27

JonEzeitza

30

28

RedheadDane

27

29

Ingsve

26

30

Armchair

25

30

Sam6

25

32

Sussannna

24

33

Bminchow

21

34

Kazistuta

15

35

Josedin

10

CollectiveWisdom

251

SoLastYear

118

MainGamePop

15

Standings

Green

1	EvansIsTheBest	82	0
2	DJW	80	6
3	Blues_in_the_Bottle	50	5
3	Josedin	50	-1
5	RoteLaterne	35	3
5	Bminchow	35	-2
7	Search	25	1
7	Sam6	25	-3
9	SlowClimber	15	-1
9	Ingsve	15	-4
11	QueenStagiare	10	-3
12	Vladimir	7.5	-6
12	RedheadDane	7.5	-6
14	AmisVelo	5	-6
15	Rufs	3	-7
16	Salvarani	1	-8

After most races, I'll only show the top ten in this category.

Main

1	DJW	360	7
2	Blues_in_the_Bottle	358	6
3	RoteLaterne	349	5
4	EvansIsTheBest	344	-3
5	Search	329	3
6	SlowClimber	317	2
7	QueenStagiare	313	1
8	AmisVelo	303	0
9	Rufs	284	-1
10	Salvarani	257	-2
11	Madrazo	251	-3
12	Anderis	246	-4
13	Laarsland	216	-5
14	Triley36	215	-6
15	Scribers	214	-7
16	Del1962	211	-8
17	Laurens147	204	-9
18	JumboVismaFan	200	-10
19	DJSprtsch	138	-11
20	Vladimir	127	-14
21	NTFC1962	118	-13
22	DevilsElbow	111	-14
23	Hfgon1	93	-15
24	Pitinho91	77	-16
25	Peixotini	76	-17
26	Leadbelly	64	-18
27	Josedin	62	-25
28	Bminchow	45	-25
28	Sam6	45	-24
30	Ingsve	44	-25
31	RedheadDane	32	-25
32	JonEzeitza	30	-24
33	Armchair	25	-25
34	Sussannna	24	-26
35	Kazistuta	15	-27
	CollectiveWisdom	262
	SoLastYear	118
	MainGamePop	15

29 times more points in Omloop than in Faun, so no surprise that the table is essentially the order from the WT race.

Another double header tomorrow. I will share the spreadsheet eventually, but it still needs some tidying.

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 25, 2024

The French one finished first
Race 3: Drome Classic

3	VAN GILS Maxim	66	1
6	TRONCHON Bastien	46	6
9	COSNEFROY Benoît	28	6
12	BUSATTO Francesco	18	1
16	GENIETS Kévin	10	1
17	ALBANESE Vincenzo	9	1
21	KULSET Johannes	5	1
24	HUBY Antoine	5	1
29	CALMEJANE Lilian	5	1

Still mainly unique picks, but a couple of more popular selections.

Race pos'n		pts		green pts
1	DevilsElbow	74	Tronchon & Cosnnefroy	80
2	Josedin	66		50
3	Sam6	47	Cosnefroy, Geniets & Albanese	35
4	Anderis	46		11.6
4	Leadbelly	46		11.6
4	Madrazo	46		11.6
4	Salvarani	46		11.6
4	Search	46		11.6
9	Ingsve	38	Cosnefroy and 2 fivers	2
10	Del1962	28		0.33
10	JonEzeitza	28		0.33
10	Laarsland	28		0.33
13	Kazistuta	18
14	RedheadDane	5

Standings but they'll only be short lived
Green

1	Josedin	100	2
2	EvansIsTheBest	82	-1
3	DevilsElbow	80	14
3	DJW	80	-1
5	Sam6	60	2
6	Blues_in_the_Bottle	50	-3
7	Search	36.6	0
8	Bminchow	35	-3
8	RoteLaterne	35	-3
10	Ingsve	17	-1

I'll normally only show the top ten in the minor classification

Main

1	Search	375	4
2	DJW	360	-1
3	Blues_in_the_Bottle	358	-1
4	RoteLaterne	349	-1
5	EvansIsTheBest	344	-1
6	SlowClimber	317	0
7	QueenStagiare	313	0
8	AmisVelo	303	0
8	Salvarani	303	2
10	Madrazo	297	1
11	Anderis	292	1
12	Rufs	284	-3
13	Laarsland	244	0
14	Del1962	239	2
15	Triley36	215	-1
16	Scribers	214	-1
17	Laurens147	204	0
18	JumboVismaFan	200	0
19	DevilsElbow	185	3
20	DJSprtsch	138	-1
21	Josedin	128	6
22	Vladimir	127	-2
23	NTFC1962	118	-2
24	Leadbelly	110	2
25	Hfgon1	93	-2
26	Sam6	92	2
27	Ingsve	82	3
28	Pitinho91	77	-4
29	Peixotini	76	-4
30	JonEzeitza	58	2
31	Bminchow	45	-3
32	RedheadDane	37	-1
33	Kazistuta	33	2
34	Armchair	25	-1
35	Sussannna	24	-1
	CollectiveWisdom	262
	SoLastYear	118
	MainGamePop	15

A quick cup of tea, and I'll process KBK (edit: maybe not that soon, only a top 10 on CQ)

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 25, 2024

Race 4 Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
Two-thirds of the dominant breakaway were selected, but not the right third.

Race Pos'n		Pts	Teams
2	WELLENS Tim	78	2
3	LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	66	2
5	EEKHOFF Nils	52	2
7	LAMPERTI Luke	40	15
9	MAYRHOFER Marius	28	4
10	STUYVEN Jasper	24	1
11	GARCIA CORTINA Ivan	20	1
16	NAESEN Oliver	10	4
18	VAN GESTEL Dries	8	1
19	TURNER Ben	7	18
21	WRIGHT Fred	5	8
22	PETIT Adrien	5	3
23	KANTER Max	5	2
26	POLITT Nils	5	5
29	HOFSTETTER Hugo	5	2

From this race:
Slow Climber will have enjoyed the break, even if there was a grim inevitability for him that it wouldn't be as good as it might have been.

1	SlowClimber	215	Wellens, Lazkano, Lamperti, Stuyven, Turner	80
2	Rufs	125	Wellens, Lamperti, Turner	50
3	Sam6	106	Lazkano, Lamperti	35
4	Blues_in_the_Bottle	62	Eeckhoff & 2 fivers	25
5	Laurens147	57	Eeckhoff and one fiver	15
6	Del1962	55		7.5
6	Hfgon1	55		7.5
8	AmisVelo	52		2.5
8	Madrazo	52		2.5
10	Armchair	47		0.25
10	DevilsElbow	47		0.25
10	DJSprtsch	47		0.25
10	Triley36	47		0.25
14	RoteLaterne	45
15	QueenStagiare	43
16	Josedin	40
16	Leadbelly	40
16	Peixotini	40
16	Pitinho91	40
16	Salvarani	40
16	Scribers	40
22	DJW	22
22	Search	22
24	JonEzeitza	20
25	Vladimir	17
26	Laarsland	12
27	NTFC1962	8
28	Bminchow	7
28	JumboVismaFan	7
28	Kazistuta	7
31	Ingsve	5
32	Anderis	0
32	EvansIsTheBest	0
32	RedheadDane	0
32	Sussannna	0
	CollectiveWisdom	47
	SoLastYear	0
	MainGamePop	7

Standings
Green
Sometimes the top 10 has 11 or more in it...

1	Josedin	100	0
2	Sam6	95	3
2	SlowClimber	95	9
4	EvansIsTheBest	82	-2
5	DevilsElbow	80.25	-2
6	DJW	80	-3
7	Blues_in_the_Bottle	75	-1
8	Rufs	53	12
9	Search	36.6	-2
10	Bminchow	35	-2
10	RoteLaterne	35	-2

Main
4 races so far, and 4 different leaders. Long may it remain as unpredictable as a race from which Visma are absent.

1	SlowClimber	532	5
2	Blues_in_the_Bottle	420	1
3	Rufs	409	9
4	Search	397	-3
5	RoteLaterne	394	-1
6	DJW	382	-4
7	QueenStagiare	356	0
8	AmisVelo	355	0
9	Madrazo	349	1
10	EvansIsTheBest	344	-5
11	Salvarani	343	-3
12	Del1962	294	2
13	Anderis	292	-2
14	Triley36	262	1
15	Laurens147	261	2
16	Laarsland	256	-3
17	Scribers	254	-1
18	DevilsElbow	232	1
19	JumboVismaFan	207	-1
20	Sam6	198	6
21	DJSprtsch	185	-1
22	Josedin	168	-1
23	Leadbelly	150	1
24	Hfgon1	148	1
25	Vladimir	144	-3
26	NTFC1962	126	-3
27	Pitinho91	117	1
28	Peixotini	116	1
29	Ingsve	87	-2
30	JonEzeitza	78	0
31	Armchair	72	3
32	Bminchow	52	-1
33	Kazistuta	40	0
34	RedheadDane	37	-2
35	Sussannna	24	0
	CollectiveWisdom	309
	SoLastYear	118
	MainGamePop	22

Unfortunately Le Samyn on Tuesday is 1.1, so not in the game, but Laigueglia on Wednesday counts, if anyone selected is on the startlist, so there should be an update that evening.

Google drive behaving a bit oddly, so I hope the spreadsheet is accessible, but not editable, here. Perhaps someone will let me know.

slow_climber · Feb 26, 2024

I was looking forward to that update especially as Armchair cyclists cup of tea after the Drome Update took almost 6 hours!

I enjoyed turning on KBK to see that breakaway. And my fast guys did well to get 3 more places in the top 10.

Nice way to start Monday and I hope no-one has any of the favourites for the mid week race!

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 26, 2024

slow_climber said:
I was looking forward to that update especially as Armchair cyclists cup of tea after the Drome Update took almost 6 hours!

A cup of tea is to be relished, not hurried.

DJ Sprtsch · Feb 28, 2024

I really think Le Samyn should feature in this game.

Rufs · Feb 28, 2024

DJ Sprtsch said:
I really think Le Samyn should feature in this game.

Supported 100%

. Could badly need the points Rex, Capiot and van Uden collected together here

sam6 · Feb 28, 2024

I've got Bettiol, Cosnefroy, and Albanese who are all racing today so hoping for a big day!

Armchair Cyclist · Feb 28, 2024

DJ Sprtsch said:
I really think Le Samyn should feature in this game.

In the first couple of editions of the game I included some 1.1 races if they had a threshhold number of World Teams, but that participation was inconsistent, so I switched to a more objective 1.WT and 1.HS (now 1.Pro) a few years ago.

I'd be very happy if the UCI were to upgrade it so that it can be in: I have missed out on decent scoring myself some years, but I'd rather keep it objective, and I don't want to have to include another dozen or so events with all the 1.1s

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Evans is the Best	PIDCOCK Thomas		12	891
	GREGOIRE Romain	*	1	784
	SHEFFIELD Magnus		6	573
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam		20	456
	GAUTHERAT Pierre		4	148
	TRATNIK Jan		16	121
	PEAK Barnabas	*	1	15
	CAPIOT Amaury		22	10
	ANDERSEN Idar	*	1	0
	GILBERT Philippe	*	1	0
	NIBALI Vincenzo	*	1	0
	VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro	*	1	0