2025 Vuelta CQ game

Kazistuta · Aug 30, 2025

Did I miss something about leaders jersey points not counting for the daily competition? I don't see TT's 18 points🤷😇

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 30, 2025

Look at this guy! He's in the lead and wants even more points

Kazistuta said:
Did I miss something about leaders jersey points not counting for the daily competition? I don't see TT's 18 points🤷😇

They're in there. The highly variable cut off point for displaying riders' gains or losses was at 25 yesterday, Traeen was + 14 (18 for red jersey, -4 for dropping from 6th to 10th in KoM classification).

All the numbers available here.

RedheadDane · Aug 30, 2025

Armchair Cyclist said:
@EvansIsTheBest and @DJ Sprtsch say "hold my beer"

I can give some advise on how to avoid that particular problem.

Kazistuta · Aug 30, 2025

Armchair Cyclist said:
Look at this guy! He's in the lead and wants even more points

They're in there. The highly variable cut off point for displaying riders' gains or losses was at 25 yesterday, Traeen was + 14 (18 for red jersey, -4 for dropping from 6th to 10th in KoM classification).

All the numbers available here.

Thanks😘 I just misremembered that leaders jersey points was shown in the daily/green points competition as well. Well, guess it makes sense to withheld them from that classification.

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 30, 2025

Kazistuta said:
Thanks😘 I just misremembered that leaders jersey points was shown in the daily/green points competition as well. Well, guess it makes sense to withheld them from that classification.

For few years I did, but it tended to carry too much weight there: has been in main part of the game only for several years now (blimey, how long have I been doing this...)

Armchair Cyclist · Aug 30, 2025

Stage 8

I had a green point update ready to go, then saw that they had decided to disqualify anyone over the age of 30.

Green points

PHILIPSEN Jasper	70	0
VERNON Ethan	40	0
MARIT Arne	25	0
FOLDAGER Anders	15	0
MIHKELS Madis	10	1 (Kazistuta)
GRUEL Thibaud	7	1 (Nevs)
CHRISTEN Fabio	5	0
TURNER Ben	3	1 (Queen Stagiaire)
PEDERSEN Mads	2	0
GONZALEZ LOPEZ David	1	0

It was a bit more interesting before Viviani was relegated (particularly for Peixotini, Ingsve and TRiley)

Queen Stagiaire slightly extends her lead by three, Kaz moves up from 4th to 5th, Nevs leaps from 28th to 27th.

You don't need tables for that, do you?

Red points

There you go, @Kazistuta, the red jersey bonus is the biggest scoring element of the day

TRAEEN Torstein	18	4
MIHKELS Madis	10	1
GRUEL Thibaud	7	1
TURNER Ben	5	1
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres	3	5
HARPER Chris	2	1
MEINTJES Louis	2	3
ROLLAND Brieuc	2	3
ROMO OLIVER Javier	2	2
SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio	2	3
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	2	2
VERMAERKE Kevin	2	1

BELOKI FERNANDEZ Markel	-4	1
HIRT Jan	-4	13
TIBERI Antonio	-4	10
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	-16	4

Nothing substantial

1	Kazistuta	28
2	Titan31	18
3	QueenStagiaire	15
4	NBFC1962	5
5	RedheadDane	4
5	Vladimir	4
7	Shakes	3
8	MagliaNera	2
8	Onizuka999	2
10	SamuCuenca	1
11	DJW	0
11	Hayneplane	0
11	JumboVismaFan	0
11	Laarsland	0
11	Peixotini	0
16	Bminchow	-2
16	Del1962	-2
16	DevilsElbow	-2
16	LosBrolin	-2
16	Search	-2
16	YellowKnight	-2
22	AmisVelo	-4
22	Armchair_Cyclist	-4
22	BicycleBoy	-4
22	BluesInTheBottle	-4
22	Hfgon1	-4
22	Ingsve	-4
22	Rufs	-4
22	Triley36	-4
30	Leadbelly	-5
31	Nevs	-6
32	Madrazo	-8
33	DJSprtsch	-20
33	EvansIsTheBest	-20
	Collective_Wisdom	-4
	Default	42

Standings

1-2-3 on the daily score were already 1-2-3 in the overall.

1	Kazistuta	1623	(-)
2	Titan31	1549	(-)
3	QueenStagiaire	1483	(-)
4	Laarsland	1293	(-)
5	MagliaNera	1183	(-)
6	Ingsve	1121	(-)
7	Hfgon1	1109	(-)
8	Armchair_Cyclist	1079	(-)
9	Madrazo	1072	(-)
10	Hayneplane	1065	(+1)
11	YellowKnight	1064	(-1)
12	JumboVismaFan	1050	(-)
13	NBFC1962	1044	(-)
14	Del1962	1028	(-)
15	LosBrolin	1020	(-)
16	Onizuka999	1010	(-)
17	Bminchow	1005	(+1)
18	Triley36	1004	(-2)
19	BicycleBoy	991	(-)
20	DevilsElbow	982	(+1)
21	Shakes	981	(+1)
22	EvansIsTheBest	969	(-2)
23	Rufs	915	(-)
24	BluesInTheBottle	911	(-)
25	Vladimir	902	(+1)
26	DJW	901	(-1)
27	AmisVelo	838	(+1)
28	DJSprtsch	833	(-1)
29	Leadbelly	729	(-)
30	Peixotini	675	(-)
31	Search	627	(-)
32	Nevs	421	(-)
33	RedheadDane	336	(-)
34	SamuCuenca	207	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1217
	Default	309

Kazistuta · Sunday at 12:34 PM

Thanks, I guess not being used to being at the top are making me unsure on how things work up there😃

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 10:36 PM

Stage 9

The MTF from which not much was expected has been rather consequential.

Green points

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	70	26
PIDCOCK Thomas	40	0
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	25	2
GALL Felix	15	2
GARCIA PIERNA Raul	10	1
SOLER Marc	7	3
CICCONE Giulio	5	1
BELOKI FERNANDEZ Markel	3	1
HINDLEY Jai	2	13
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	1	1

Having both Almeida and Vingegaard was bound to put TRiley top of some table at some point:

1	Triley36	95
2	Onizuka999	85
3	EvansIsTheBest	80
4	DevilsElbow	79
5	BicycleBoy	77
6	Vingegaard + Hindley teams	72
16	Remaining Vingegaard teams	70
27	Peixotini	25
28	Leadbelly	17
29	RedheadDane	7
30	Search	5
31	SamuCuenca	3
32	AmisVelo	2
33	Laarsland	1
34	Nevs	0
	Collective_Wisdom	72
	Default	0

and Samu finally gets his first green points

Standings

1	QueenStagiaire	312	(-)
2	EvansIsTheBest	301	(-)
3	DJSprtsch	281	(-)
4	Triley36	255	(+3)
5	Kazistuta	249	(-)
6	Titan31	242	(-)
7	BicycleBoy	232	(+1)
8	Ingsve	213	(+1)
9	DevilsElbow	212	(+10)
10	LosBrolin	210	(-)

Red points

Pidcock and Gall displace a lot of our important picks downwards

GALL Felix	120	2
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	82	26
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	26	2
TRAEEN Torstein	17	4
GARCIA PIERNA Raul	16	1
BELOKI FERNANDEZ Markel	15	1
LANGELLOTTI Victor	11	1

HARPER Chris	-10	1
KUSS Sepp	-12	8
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	-21	4
PELLIZZARI Giulio	-30	13
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	-31	20
HINDLEY Jai	-38	13
CICCONE Giulio	-50	1
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	-53	1

For most teams, the GC losses in the lower top ten were largely counterbalanced by Vingegaard's stage win. Onizuka had both Gall and Vingegaard, and only suffered losses with one rider (Bernal) .

1	Onizuka999	166
2	Triley36	108
3	EvansIsTheBest	65
4	BicycleBoy	62
5	QueenStagiaire	60
6	DJSprtsch	57
7	DevilsElbow	56
8	BluesInTheBottle	51
8	Vladimir	51
10	Rufs	39
11	Kazistuta	38
12	DJW	36
13	Titan31	31
14	Leadbelly	28
15	Ingsve	25
16	Hayneplane	16
17	YellowKnight	15
18	Bminchow	14
19	NBFC1962	13
20	Madrazo	12
21	Hfgon1	9
22	Del1962	8
23	MagliaNera	7
23	SamuCuenca	7
23	Shakes	7
26	LosBrolin	6
27	RedheadDane	4
28	JumboVismaFan	2
29	Armchair_Cyclist	0
30	Peixotini	-4
31	Search	-53
32	Nevs	-57
33	Laarsland	-94
34	AmisVelo	-116
	Collective_Wisdom	-17
	Default	8

Standings

Laarsland, lacking Vingegaard, drops farther behind the other Traeen teams at the top, but just holds the Traeen group intact as the first 4. Gall positioning himself as best of the rest gives Onizuka a very large boost in position (and a tiny boost to Leadbelly)

1	Kazistuta	1661	(-)
2	Titan31	1580	(-)
3	QueenStagiaire	1543	(-)
4	Laarsland	1199	(-)
5	MagliaNera	1190	(-)
6	Onizuka999	1176	(+10)
7	Ingsve	1146	(-1)
8	Hfgon1	1118	(-1)
9	Triley36	1112	(+9)
10	Madrazo	1084	(-1)
11	Hayneplane	1081	(-1)
12	YellowKnight	1079	(-1)
13	Armchair_Cyclist	1079	(-5)
14	NBFC1962	1057	(-1)
15	BicycleBoy	1053	(+4)
16	JumboVismaFan	1052	(-4)
17	DevilsElbow	1038	(+3)
18	Del1962	1036	(-4)
19	EvansIsTheBest	1034	(+3)
20	LosBrolin	1026	(-5)
21	Bminchow	1019	(-4)
22	Shakes	988	(-1)
23	BluesInTheBottle	962	(+1)
24	Rufs	954	(-1)
25	Vladimir	953	(-)
26	DJW	937	(-)
27	DJSprtsch	890	(+1)
28	Leadbelly	757	(+1)
29	AmisVelo	722	(-2)
30	Peixotini	671	(-)
31	Search	574	(-)
32	Nevs	364	(-)
33	RedheadDane	340	(-)
34	SamuCuenca	214	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1200
	Default	317

Armchair Cyclist · Tuesday at 2:32 PM

As at first rest day
even if they have started the stage on the day after it

Green points

I usually give the whole table about once a week:

1	QueenStagiaire	312
2	EvansIsTheBest	301
3	DJSprtsch	281
4	Triley36	255
5	Kazistuta	249
6	Titan31	242
7	BicycleBoy	232
8	Ingsve	213
9	DevilsElbow	212
10	LosBrolin	210
11	Hayneplane	208
12	Del1962	207
12	Hfgon1	207
12	Shakes	207
15	Armchair_Cyclist	206
15	Bminchow	206
15	Madrazo	206
15	MagliaNera	206
19	Onizuka999	205
20	JumboVismaFan	202
21	Vladimir	200
22	YellowKnight	199
23	NBFC1962	198
24	BluesInTheBottle	189
25	Rufs	186
26	Laarsland	183
27	DJW	181
28	Nevs	112
29	Search	82
30	Peixotini	71
31	Leadbelly	54
32	RedheadDane	38
33	AmisVelo	35
34	SamuCuenca	3
	Collective_Wisdom	210
	Default	103

Main green scorers

	points	teams	game relevance
PHILIPSEN Jasper	180	0
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	175	26	All the top 25, and 27th have him
GAUDU David	95	0
VERNON Ethan	95	0
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	90	4	2nd and 3rd, and also first 2 non-Vingegaard teams
TURNER Ben	75	1	The key to QS's lead
VINE Jay	70	0
CICCONE Giulio	66	1	Makes Search top of those with neither Vingo nor Ayuso
PEDERSEN Mads	55	0
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	53	2	TRiley4th: best without Ayuso or Turner
PIDCOCK Thomas	44	0
FRIGO Marco	40	0
TRAEEN Torstein	40	4	1st, 5th, 6th and Laarsland as top of the non-Vingo teams

So sprinters, unless Turner is now classified as one, having almost no impact on our game.

Red points

Main scorers

	pts	teams	impact on game
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	626	26	All 26 in top 27 teams
TRAEEN Torstein	612	4	The top 4
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	369	2	TRiley 10th
PIDCOCK Thomas	312	0
CICCONE Giulio	291	1	doesn't have Vingegaard
GALL Felix	263	2	Onizuka 7th
PHILIPSEN Jasper	238	0
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	221	1	Keeps Leadbelly 4th despite no Vingegaard
JORGENSON Matteo	177	0
HINDLEY Jai	161	13
VINE Jay	155	0
VERNON Ethan	150	0
PEDERSEN Mads	141	0
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	140	20
GAUDU David	140	0
PELLIZZARI Giulio	138	13
SOLER Marc	138	3
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	132	4
GARCIA PIERNA Raul	131	1
RICCITELLO Matthew	104	10

The top three all have both Traeen and Vingegaard, and also Bernal: Kazistuta has Pellizzari and Riccitello as support; Titan also has Pellizzarri, but no other significant scorer; Queen Stagiaire's fourth meaningful point source is Turner.

Non-finishers
Including Van Uden's DNF today, there are 6 relevant riders who have pulled out

	cost	teams
ZINGLE Axel	364	3
PARET PEINTRE Valentin	346	3
VAN UDEN Casper	202	7
VERGALLITO Luca	123	3
BOUWMAN Koen	41	2
CARR Simon	15	12

Peixotini	3	581	Zingle, Van Uden & Carr
Rufs	2	566	Zingle & Van Uden
Hayneplane	2	548	Paret Peintre & Van Uden
DJW	2	379	Zingle & Carr
Bminchow, YellowKnight	1	346	Paret Peintre
DevilsElbow	2	243	Van Uden & Bouwman
Kazistuta, Search	2	217	Van Uden & Carr
Titan31	1	202	Van Uden
BluesInTheBottle, Nevs, Shakes	1	123	Vergalitto
DJSprtsch	2	56	Bouman & Carr
Del1962, Hfgon1, LosBrolin, Madrazo, MagliaNera, Triley36, Vladimir	1	15	Carr

Raul Garcia has DNFed since I started this, at 297 point cost to Evans is the Best, but I'd have to do the tables again...
12 of us have our teams intact

Armchair Cyclist · Wednesday at 12:33 AM

Stage 10
Into the second week, in very much the same way, parcours-wise, as the first week finished.

Green points

A mix of GC chasers and breakaway survivors

VINE Jay	70	0
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	40	2
ROMO OLIVER Javier	25	2
RYAN Archie	15	3
PIDCOCK Thomas	10	0
CICCONE Giulio	7	1
HINDLEY Jai	5	13
JORGENSON Matteo	3	0
LECERF William Junior	2	2
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	1	2

Redhead's all-Spanish team comes up trumps

1	RedheadDane	65
2	Nevs	40
3	Del1962	30
4	JumboVismaFan	15
4	QueenStagiaire	15
4	Titan31	15
7	Search	7
8	Hindley teams	5
20	BicycleBoy	2
20	Ingsve	2
22	Peixotini	1
22	Triley36	1

Standings

Odd statistic: all three Archie Ryan teams are in the top ten.

1	QueenStagiaire	327	(-)
2	EvansIsTheBest	301	(-)
3	DJSprtsch	281	(-)
4	Titan31	257	(+2)
5	Triley36	256	(-1)
6	Kazistuta	249	(-1)
7	Del1962	237	(+5)
8	BicycleBoy	234	(-1)
9	DevilsElbow	217	(-)
9	JumboVismaFan	217	(+11)

Red points

Not many GC changes, but there is the top one

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	153	26
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	47	2
ROMO OLIVER Javier	42	2
RICCITELLO Matthew	31	10
RYAN Archie	24	3
HINDLEY Jai	20	13
LECERF William Junior	20	2
PELLIZZARI Giulio	15	13
VERMAERKE Kevin	15	1
MEINTJES Louis	10	3

HARPER Chris	-12	1
ROLLAND Brieuc	-12	3
VAN UDEN Casper	-15	7
SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio	-18	3
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	-78	1
GARCIA PIERNA Raul	-96	1
TRAEEN Torstein	-125	4

For the teams with both Traeen and Vingegaard, they pretty much cancel each other out

1	MagliaNera	220
2	Ingsve	219
3	Del1962	215
4	Madrazo	207
5	BluesInTheBottle	202
6	Hfgon1	200
7	JumboVismaFan	198
8	Hayneplane	194
9	Vladimir	187
10	YellowKnight	184
11	Armchair_Cyclist	182
12	Shakes	173
13	DJW	170
14	BicycleBoy	165
14	Rufs	165
16	LosBrolin	164
16	Onizuka999	164
18	DevilsElbow	163
19	Bminchow	160
20	Triley36	154
21	DJSprtsch	147
22	NBFC1962	146
23	AmisVelo	71
24	EvansIsTheBest	61
25	Nevs	60
26	Kazistuta	59
26	RedheadDane	59
28	Titan31	52
29	QueenStagiaire	50
30	Peixotini	32
31	Search	30
32	Leadbelly	25
33	SamuCuenca	-14
34	Laarsland	-217
	Collective_Wisdom	219
	Default	17

Of course, all the Vingegaard teams without Traeen did rather better out of the swap in positions
Standings

The peloton is catching up on the breakaway, which has lost one rider already.

1	Kazistuta	1720	(-)
2	Titan31	1632	(-)
3	QueenStagiaire	1593	(-)
4	MagliaNera	1410	(+1)
5	Ingsve	1365	(+2)
6	Onizuka999	1340	(-)
7	Hfgon1	1318	(+1)
8	Madrazo	1291	(+2)
9	Hayneplane	1275	(+2)
10	Triley36	1266	(-1)
11	YellowKnight	1263	(+1)
12	Armchair_Cyclist	1261	(+1)
13	Del1962	1251	(+5)
14	JumboVismaFan	1250	(+2)
15	BicycleBoy	1218	(-)
16	NBFC1962	1203	(-2)
17	DevilsElbow	1201	(-)
18	LosBrolin	1190	(+2)
19	Bminchow	1179	(+2)
20	BluesInTheBottle	1164	(+3)
21	Shakes	1161	(+1)
22	Vladimir	1140	(+3)
23	Rufs	1119	(+1)
24	DJW	1107	(+2)
25	EvansIsTheBest	1095	(-6)
26	DJSprtsch	1037	(+1)
27	Laarsland	982	(-23)
28	AmisVelo	793	(+1)
29	Leadbelly	782	(-1)
30	Peixotini	703	(-)
31	Search	604	(-)
32	Nevs	424	(-)
33	RedheadDane	399	(-)
34	SamuCuenca	200	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1419
	Default	334

Traeen, having had a cost of just 120, is certain to have been a good pick, but how long can he stay in a high position, and how far will he fall?

RedheadDane · Wednesday at 6:33 AM

Armchair Cyclist said:
Redhead's all-Spanish team comes up trumps

That was confusing... I'd somehow forgotten I have Romo too. Even though he's right there, at the top of my document with my team...

Armchair Cyclist · Thursday at 1:16 AM

Stage 11
No stage results

Green neutralised
Red points
Times recorded, therefore some differences in GC, and KoM points given.

ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	60	2
HINDLEY Jai	25	13
LECERF William Junior	16	2
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	16	2
KUSS Sepp	14	8
MEINTJES Louis	14	3
ROLLAND Brieuc	14	3
CAMPENAERTS Victor	12	1

LANDA MEANA Mikel	-10	12
CHUMIL GONZALEZ Sergio Geovani	-18	2
HARPER Chris	-24	1
SOLER Marc	-48	3
CICCONE Giulio	-50	1
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	-57	1
TRAEEN Torstein	-110	4

At present, CQ have not indicated 18 red jersey points. I suspect that they will do so eventually, but the game is scored according to their decisions before the end of the race. It won't make much difference, as it will have the same effec on everyone in the top 3/4 or so of the table.

1	MagliaNera	61
2	Peixotini	60
3	Triley36	55
4	Armchair_Cyclist	39
4	LosBrolin	39
6	Shakes	33
7	YellowKnight	31
8	AmisVelo	26
8	Hayneplane	26
8	Leadbelly	26
11	Madrazo	25
12	Ingsve	19
13	Hfgon1	18
14	EvansIsTheBest	17
15	JumboVismaFan	10
16	Del1962	9
17	DJW	7
17	Vladimir	7
19	Onizuka999	-1
20	Nevs	-2
21	Rufs	-3
22	Bminchow	-4
23	BluesInTheBottle	-8
24	DevilsElbow	-9
25	NBFC1962	-11
26	DJSprtsch	-15
27	BicycleBoy	-17
28	SamuCuenca	-22
29	Search	-47
30	RedheadDane	-69
31	Kazistuta	-107
32	Titan31	-114
33	QueenStagiaire	-117
34	Laarsland	-153
	Collective_Wisdom	28
	Default	24

Standings

The Traeen trio still hold onto the podium. Just about.

1	Kazistuta	1613	(-)
2	Titan31	1518	(-)
3	QueenStagiaire	1476	(-)
4	MagliaNera	1471	(-)
5	Ingsve	1384	(-)
6	Onizuka999	1339	(-)
7	Hfgon1	1336	(-)
8	Triley36	1321	(+2)
9	Madrazo	1316	(-1)
10	Hayneplane	1301	(-1)
11	Armchair_Cyclist	1300	(+1)
12	YellowKnight	1294	(-1)
13	Del1962	1260	(-)
13	JumboVismaFan	1260	(+1)
15	LosBrolin	1229	(+3)
16	BicycleBoy	1201	(-1)
17	Shakes	1194	(+4)
18	DevilsElbow	1192	(-1)
18	NBFC1962	1192	(-2)
20	Bminchow	1175	(-1)
21	BluesInTheBottle	1156	(-1)
22	Vladimir	1147	(-)
23	Rufs	1116	(-)
24	DJW	1114	(-)
25	EvansIsTheBest	1112	(-)
26	DJSprtsch	1022	(-)
27	Laarsland	829	(-)
28	AmisVelo	819	(-)
29	Leadbelly	808	(-)
30	Peixotini	763	(-)
31	Search	557	(-)
32	Nevs	422	(-)
33	RedheadDane	330	(-)
34	SamuCuenca	178	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1447
	Default	358

Devil's Elbow · Thursday at 7:00 AM

CQ actually counted stage 19 of the 2019 Tour as a stage won by Bernal, so it would be very weird if they don't even hand out the GC lead points this time.

RedheadDane · Thursday at 7:08 AM

Armchair Cyclist said:
The Traeen trio still hold onto the podium. Just about.

"The Træieon"? No?

Netserk · Thursday at 8:21 AM

Devil's Elbow said:
CQ actually counted stage 19 of the 2019 Tour as a stage won by Bernal, so it would be very weird if they don't even hand out the GC lead points this time.

Yeah, purely in terms of stage results, I do not see any dissimilarity.

zigzag wanderer · Thursday at 9:40 AM

Netserk said:
Yeah, purely in terms of stage results, I do not see any dissimilarity.

CQ have just updated - stage points awarded as normal.

Except they left out Egan Bernal.

Netserk · Thursday at 12:34 PM

zigzag wanderer said:
CQ have just updated - stage points awarded as normal.

Except they left out Egan Bernal.

And now the points have been removed.

Not from 2019 though.

zigzag wanderer · Thursday at 12:59 PM

Struggling to understand the the logic here. Normally, even when a stage is fully neutralised, they award points to the race leader.

Devil's Elbow · Thursday at 1:06 PM

Lol, even the red jersey points have been removed. Somehow, they've managed to be inconsistent with both the official results AND their own precedent.

Armchair Cyclist · Thursday at 3:47 PM

I've always taken the line that I will consider whatever CQ had presented at the time the races finish as the scoring principle for the game (a policy that once deprived me of victory in the Emerging riders game: they removed Roson's points after I had announced the results). I normally run the games without actually looking at CQ (PCS do daily standings, CQ don't) but will keep an eye on it. But as I say, Vingegard's points are likely to be irrelevant.

There are all sorts or variables we need to bear in mind when selecting a team. Including CQ's vagaries

titan31 · Thursday at 6:12 PM

Could my team please be removed from this game?

Armchair Cyclist · Thursday at 10:17 PM

titan31 said:
Could my team please be removed from this game?

As you wish, sorry to hear that that is what you want.

Samu Cuenca · Thursday at 10:29 PM

Armchair Cyclist said:
As you wish, sorry to hear that that is what you want.

Are mergers/transfers of ownership allowed in this game? I'm asking for a friend.

Armchair Cyclist · Thursday at 10:30 PM

So on stage 11, CQ is now treating those who were recorded as 1st to 9th the points they would have if they were placed 2nd to 10th, and is still not giving red jersey points.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were to change that again, so I'll look again on the rest day, see if there is something then that looks like a settled psition. So the update I'm about to put together still has no green points for stage 11.

Armchair Cyclist · Thursday at 11:23 PM

Stage 12
Is this a record size for a breakaway, and must be heading for a record number of breakaway wins.

Green points
Hooray: a stage with a result.

AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	70	4
ROMO OLIVER Javier	40	2
ROLLAND Brieuc	25	3
CAMPENAERTS Victor	15	1
PEDERSEN Mads	10	0
DENZ Nico	7	0
HOWSON Damien	5	0
BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago	3	0
BELOKI FERNANDEZ Markel	2	1
CASTRILLO ZAPATER Pablo	1	2

First and third for Laarsland

1	Laarsland	95
2	Nevs	71
3	DJSprtsch	70
3	EvansIsTheBest	70
5	RedheadDane	41
6	Del1962	40
7	LosBrolin	25
7	Onizuka999	25
9	BicycleBoy	15
10	SamuCuenca	2

Standings
First change of leadership in this category for a while: Laarsland shows that big jumps are still possible.

1	EvansIsTheBest	371	(+1)
2	DJSprtsch	351	(+1)
3	QueenStagiaire	327	(-2)
4	Laarsland	278	(+21)
5	Del1962	277	(+1)
6	Triley36	256	(-2)
7	BicycleBoy	249	(-)
7	Kazistuta	249	(-2)
9	LosBrolin	240	(+1)
10	Onizuka999	230	(+9)

Red points
The unselected Armirail moves up several places into the top ten, moving several popular picks down.

AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	88	4
ROMO OLIVER Javier	65	2
ROLLAND Brieuc	33	3
CAMPENAERTS Victor	20	1
VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas	15	25
TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso	12	2

VERMAERKE Kevin	-14	1
CICCONE Giulio	-15	1
PELLIZZARI Giulio	-15	12
RICCITELLO Matthew	-15	10
CHUMIL GONZALEZ Sergio Geovani	-18	2
HINDLEY Jai	-25	13

1	Laarsland	111
2	DJSprtsch	107
3	EvansIsTheBest	95
4	RedheadDane	91
5	Nevs	76
6	Del1962	53
7	BicycleBoy	28
8	SamuCuenca	22
9	Onizuka999	15
10	Triley36	12
11	LosBrolin	8
12	NBFC1962	6
13	Vladimir	4
14	DJW	-2
14	QueenStagiaire	-2
16	Shakes	-13
17	DevilsElbow	-14
18	Bminchow	-18
18	JumboVismaFan	-18
20	Search	-19
21	YellowKnight	-22
22	Kazistuta	-23
23	BluesInTheBottle	-24
24	Hfgon1	-27
25	Rufs	-29
26	Ingsve	-31
26	Peixotini	-31
28	Hayneplane	-32
28	Madrazo	-32
30	Armchair_Cyclist	-33
31	Leadbelly	-42
31	MagliaNera	-42
33	AmisVelo	-72
	Collective_Wisdom	-48
	Default	-10

Standings
Del and Yellow Knight move into the top ten.

1	Kazistuta	1590	(-)
2	QueenStagiaire	1474	(-)
3	MagliaNera	1429	(-)
4	Onizuka999	1354	(+1)
5	Ingsve	1353	(-1)
6	Triley36	1333	(+1)
7	Del1962	1313	(+5)
8	Hfgon1	1309	(-2)
9	Madrazo	1284	(-1)
10	YellowKnight	1272	(+1)
11	Hayneplane	1269	(-2)
12	Armchair_Cyclist	1267	(-2)
13	JumboVismaFan	1242	(-1)
14	LosBrolin	1237	(-)
15	BicycleBoy	1229	(-)
16	EvansIsTheBest	1207	(+8)
17	NBFC1962	1198	(-)
18	Shakes	1181	(-2)
19	DevilsElbow	1178	(-2)
20	Bminchow	1157	(-1)
21	Vladimir	1151	(-)
22	BluesInTheBottle	1132	(-2)
23	DJSprtsch	1129	(+2)
24	DJW	1112	(-1)
25	Rufs	1087	(-3)
26	Laarsland	940	(-)
27	Leadbelly	766	(+1)
28	AmisVelo	747	(-1)
29	Peixotini	732	(-)
30	Search	538	(-)
31	Nevs	498	(-)
32	RedheadDane	421	(-)
33	SamuCuenca	200	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1399
	Default	348

Some riders will surely change position substantially tomorrow. But whose?

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