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The Hitch said:
Meh. They should have said great, but i see what they mean.

Its not supposed to read like they are bigging up Missouri or Georgia as grand tours. They are talking about the biggest races in America.

Its like when kids say theyve won the world cup when they win their local under 8 league.

Hitch this isn't kids this is Road Magazine.Subtitled as 'The Journal of Road Racing and Culture'.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Marcus135 said:
I think TDU is the only stage race in the world worse than ToC...

You reckon? The wilunga stage was more exciting than the whole of the toc!

Also must take location and time of year into consideration.
 
auscyclefan94 said:
You reckon? The wilunga stage was more exciting than the whole of the toc!

Also must take location and time of year into consideration.

Erm, no it wasn't.

I don't have a particular interest in either race, but a couple or three of the TOC stages were fairly decent; Big Bear being the big disappointment.
The TOC is certainly a step ahead of the TDU, due to the respective parcours.

Both races better than the TOQ..........unless the desert wind blows, all week.
 
Oct 6, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
You reckon? The wilunga stage was more exciting than the whole of the toc!

Also must take location and time of year into consideration.

TDU is good cause i can go to it and its some racing in the off season pretty much. ToC is not good but an Australian won it other than that its not (cause were awesome)
ToC still better its a 0.5/10 to the TDU 0.4/10 :D
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
You reckon? The wilunga stage was more exciting than the whole of the toc!

your delusion has no boundaries.

I doubt you watched the ToC this year. Otherwise that claim is ridiculous. Oh wait evans rode the TDU, my bad :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

@Marcus - Qatar, Oman etc.

also what mellow said
 
Jan 18, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
You reckon? The wilunga stage was more exciting than the whole of the toc!

Also must take location and time of year into consideration.

A random camel race is better than TDU.. Its a glorified training camp.

Tour of Utah seemed to have some decent terrain but the riders were rubbish though which was a shame. Couple of kids like Phinney and Dowsett kicking domestic pro and a few random protour riders *** and then Levi winning. :rolleyes:
 
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TDU > ToC
Lets face it guys. Maybe you hate sprints and find ToC more exciting. But TDU has a world class sprint field for years while ToC has only a anglophone 2nd line weeklong stage racers line-up...

Also TDU actually makes the season better. While ToC is during maybe the best race of the year.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
they think they are the centre of the universe...no new news there.

Haters gonna hate!;)

Keep in mind this is just one journalist's words, not the words of Ivan Dominguez or of anyone else. This is really overblown. The only people in the US that openly compare their stage races to the biggest stage races in Europe are the people promoting those events. Ask anyone else and they will be candid and realistic.
 
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La Pandera said:
Haters gonna hate!;)

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Jun 15, 2010
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La Pandera said:
Haters gonna hate!;)

Keep in mind this is just one journalist's words, not the words of Ivan Dominguez or of anyone else. This is really overblown. The only people in the US that openly compare their stage races to the biggest stage races in Europe are the people promoting those events. Ask anyone else and they will be candid and realistic.

The 3 races in question were California.Missouri and Georgia the author of the article was Jered Gruber.I don't hate anyone over such a minor issue.but I do think that if a magazine is pompous enough to give itself the subtitle of 'The Journal of Road Racing and Culture' then it should have due respect for what constitutes a Grand Tour. Imho
 
simo1733 said:
The 3 races in question were California.Missouri and Georgia the author of the article was Jered Gruber.I don't hate anyone over such a minor issue.but I do think that if a magazine is pompous enough to give itself the subtitle of 'The Journal of Road Racing and Culture' then it should have due respect for what constitutes a Grand Tour. Imho

I agree but we should be laying the blame on the magazine and journalist not on the US cycling public in general.
 
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Angliru said:
I agree but we should be laying the blame on the magazine and journalist not on the US cycling public in general.


Journalists and magazines? I can find hundreds of experts who all think that Tour of California is a Grand Tour, or "mini Grand Tour".

Even CyclingNews.com are starting to have more articles related to the Tour of California than the Giro + Vuelta combined.
 
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armstrong4ever said:
Journalists and magazines? I can find hundreds of experts who all think that Tour of California is a Grand Tour, or "mini Grand Tour".

Even CyclingNews.com are starting to have more articles related to the Tour of California than Giro + Vuelta combined.

How can it be a Grand Tour if it's just one flat week of getting drunk?
 
armstrong4ever said:
Journalists and magazines? I can find hundreds of experts who all think that Tour of California is a Grand Tour, or "mini Grand Tour".

Even CyclingNews.com are starting to have more articles related to the Tour of California than the Giro + Vuelta combined.

...and Stapleton and USA Today are representative of the cycling public in the U.S.? This is hardly "hundreds of experts". Liggett lost his credibility long ago and Stapleton's initial comments regarding ToC as a grand tour was met with a consensus of ridicule here in the CN forums by Americans and everyone else..