7 hidden Clenbuterol positives in Mexican soccer?

Feb 14, 2010
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This story has only had 56 posts in another thread. A lot of people, especially in the media, have treated Contador's 50 picogram positive for Clenbuterol like the biggest doping scandal in the history of the world. But no one seems to care that it's possible up to seven Mexican soccer players who had Clenbuterol in their May 21 tests are playing in the Gold Cup Championship against the U.S.

The Mexican Football Federation tested 14 members of this particular team at the High Performance Center. The players came from different club teams around the world. All ate at the dining hall. After the first round of the Cup, the Mexican Federation announced they'd gotten results from the UCLA Lab, and that five players were being pulled from the tourney as in investigation began.

Within 24 hours, the Federation had hired John-Louis Dupont, one of Contador's lawyers who gets credit for bringing free agency to soccer via CAS. The President of Mexico declared it must have been contamination. A Notary Public went to the Performance Center and documented meat samples to be tested. The five players flew across the country to Los Angeles the next day to have a follow up test. All later came back negative.

No positives were reported later when the results of Under 17 and Under 22 players came back, or in the women's team, which had been on the road on May 21.

An enterprising journo managed to get the Clenbuterol levels of the five faxed to him by the UCLA Lab. That angered some people. The players were back at UCLA the following week to have their B Samples opened. No results have been announced. The Mexican Federation got permission from FIFA to replace the five players in the tournament, since it was probably an accident that caused the positives, not cheating. The fllod gates opened on stories by experts saying things like half of the meat consumed in their state had Clenbuterol, etc.

Last weekend a journalist named Rafael Ocampo wrote that he had spoken to an anonymous team manager in the know, who told him that not just five, but twelve of the fourteen athletes tested that day had Clenbuterol in their system. He was told that the seven had levels below .5 Nanograms (500 Picograms), which "isn't considered doping". Mr. Ocampo also told the story on television.

A reporter for ESPN, José Ramón Fernández, said on Twitter that he had a reliable source saying that there had been twelve soccer players with Clenbuterol.

A day or two later, Héctor González, denied that there were seven more positives (but keep in mind, someone decided that less than .5 Ng ISN'T a positive.

http://www.laaficion.com/noticias/77479-i-arritu-niega-m-s-casos-de-dopaje-en-el-tri

The journos gave up the fight. Then Sepp Blatter, the President of FIFa, came to town and spoke on camera with ESPN. He said that they had received all the paperwork from the Federation, and was surprised to see that besides the five, there were other members of the same team with traces of Clenbuterol in their system. That story spread quickly.

Today he sent a spokesperson to say that people had misunderstood what he had said (on camera) to ESPN, and that he didn't mean there were more players on that team with Clenbuterol, but he was talking about other players (who have never been mentioned in the press for Clenbuterol?)

The journos are back to calling B.S., saying Blatter is up to his usual lies. If the story about the seven is true, Mexico should have had to play their second and other rounds with ten or eleven players, but now they're in the finals. I've relied on Google Translate for pretty much everything I've read, but one article this morning seemed to say that WADA wasn't involved because this was an out of competition test paid for by the Federation itself, and since they were the customer, they were the ones who got the results.

WADA has been in communication with FIFA. It's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out, especially since word of the positives came out at the time it was suggested that WADA would discuss a Minimum Threshold for Clenbuterol.

Mods, please feel free to merge this, but please leave Clenbuterol in the title. Links and early discussions are at the original thread. Here are a few links copied from my twitter.

5 Mexican athletes test positive for Clenbuterol
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3wh4rte

The Clenbuterol positives came out of the UCLA Lab
http://impacto.mx/deportes/nota-12708/Doping_en_la_selección

The soccer players are going to L.A. to get their B Samples checked & also to be tested for Clenbuterol http://preview.tinyurl.com/3jaoyv6

Mexican Soccer Federation hires one of Contador's lawyers http://www.proceso.com.mx/rv/modHome/detalleExclusiva/92261

The president of the Regional Livestock Union of state (UGRT) accused central Mexico of using clenbuterol http://tinyurl.com/3zkbmyj

Beef with clenbuterol discovered in Cordoba
http://sdpnoticias.com/nota/93596/Descubren_carne_con_clenbuterol_en_Cordoba

Mexican President defends soccer players, believes contamination, and no one is accusing him of tampering
http://tinyurl.com/3lp4wkl

Mexico has plans in place for opening B samples, results 5 days after that, will have files ready to meet then
http://tinyurl.com/3hqbek3

The Minister Of Health also defended the players
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3j6k7dq

The Mexican soccer Discipline Committee is communicating & coordinating & expects a decision on the 5 players before (Tour de France - inserted for irony)

http://www.diario.com.mx/notas.php?f=2011/06/12&id=37e9e0518b2048f9449ee470078dfc03

Mexican farmers call clenbuterol "miracle salts" or "cattle cocaine". An article about widespread use
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3u3jrgs

Study by a school of Veterinary Medicine found clembuterol in meat at slaughterhouses in the State of Puebla http://tinyurl.com/3um9cyh

70% Mexican meat comes from municipal slaughterhouses or abattoirs not monitored by standard federal inspection http://tinyurl.com/3fsr867

Head of a livestock union says his region is clean but imported meat tanks aren't tested because they're frozen http://tinyurl.com/4xms3ar

DVM in Puebla tested at seven sites & 74% of meat had clenbuterol http://preview.tinyurl.com/3apeyoh

President of Ranchers & Farmers Association of Veracruz says half the meat consumed in that state has clenbuterol http://tinyurl.com/3p5q27q

WADA will consider changing their rules about Clenbuterol during their meeting next week. Thank you soccer! http://tinyurl.com/3cmkpby

Meat with Clenbuterol found being sold at two market stalls in Merida, Yucatan http://preview.tinyurl.com/43kcuoy

In Hidalgo 8 out of 44 meat samples contained Clenbuterol, 2 people diagnosed with Clenbuterol poisoning http://preview.tinyurl.com/4xry8yl

ESPN got the Clenbuterol values for the 5 Mexican soccer players. Remember Contador's was 50 picograms per milliliter.
Christian Bermudez: 600 picograms. Edgar Dueñas 800 picograms, Guillermo Ochoa 1100 picograms, Francisco Javier Rodriguez 1300 picograms
http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/seleccion-mexicana/noticias/2011/06/17/analizarian-expertos-de-wada-apelar-decision-de-la-fmf

"Highway" vet peddling clenbuterol & steroids for cattle out of his car, with no diagnosis, around FLANDERS http://tinyurl.com/426sw3j

Héctor González Iñárritu denies there were 7 more doping cases in Mexican football http://preview.tinyurl.com/3dzlrcw

Former inspector says that in his area, up to 99% of farmers use Clenbuterol http://preview.tinyurl.com/6z7c36d

FIFA President confirms that more than 5 of the Mexican soccer players had Clenbuterol in May 21 tests http://tinyurl.com/6gdo6t3

Longer version of Blatter quotes about additional Mexican soccer players with Clenbuterol http://preview.tinyurl.com/6dw9hmu

Rafael Ocampo video, Blatter article
http://www.laaficion.com/node/77728
 
Aug 13, 2009
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You do realize that Spain and Mexico are different countries right? Yes, they both speak Spanish but the similarities end there.....
 
Jul 6, 2010
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And they both have cool architecture, wicked food, and beautiful women.

The surfing is better in Mexico, though.

***exorcism of inner flicker complete***

This doesn't leave a happy feeling with me regarding Contador. One of his lawyers getting involved? I have to admit that that's a brilliant ploy.

This sort of thing is an interesting presentation of sport vs. sport re doping, but hopefully it won't 'laxify' any testing in cycling.
 
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JMBeaushrimp said:
And they both have cool architecture, wicked food, and beautiful women.

The surfing is better in Mexico, though.

***exorcism of inner flicker complete***

This doesn't leave a happy feeling with me regarding Contador. One of his lawyers getting involved? I have to admit that that's a brilliant ploy.

This sort of thing is an interesting presentation of sport vs. sport re doping, but hopefully it won't 'laxify' any testing in cycling.
Ohhhh, gonna have to disagree.

Mundaka. You don't have to drive 10 hours on washboard roads to get there. Plus you have Hossegor, Anglet, and Gethrey right over the boarder and all of Portugal......and nobody trying to kill you
 
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Race Radio said:
Ohhhh, gonna have to disagree.

Mundaka. You don't have to drive 10 hours on washboard roads to get there. Plus you have Hossegor, Anglet, and Gethrey right over the boarder and all of Portugal......and nobody trying to kill you
Check out Los Cerritos...

The land just got free title, and the break is consistent and unreal! The new Surfing mag has an article on it, but they call it Cabo - it's actually over an hour north. Check out the Hacienda! PM me, I've got an in...

And almost no one there. More my style...
 
hrotha said:
Although that's very funny, theswordsman does have a point that obviously football/soccer has chosen the opposite strategy than cycling (not that the UCI had much of a choice) and decided to hardcore ignore any hint of doping as best they can. We'll see how it turns out. I wouldn't be surprised if football has their own Festina-like nuclear explosion about doping some time in the not-so-far future as well...
 
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Or, more likely, it is actually contaminated beef, seen as Clen is used by cattle farmers in Mexico.

But that's not cynical enough for the clinic :eek:
 

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