86th Tour de Suisse (2.UWT) // June 11th - 18th 2023

[Devil's Elbow]

Ongoing list of men's races shortened/neutered/cancelled due to natural phenomena (or, in certain cases, 'bad weather') this season:
- Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana
- Vuelta a Murcia
- Stage 1 of Gran Camiño
- Stage 3 of Gran Camiño
- All four stages of Tour of Antalya
- Queen stage of Tirreno
- Stage 6 of Paris-Nice
- Ronde van Drenthe
- Stage 13 of the Giro
- Mont Ventoux Challenge
- and now possibly the queen stage of this

Definitely the worst season for (non-Covid-related) changes and cancellations in a long time...

 

[Mayomaniac]

I mean, you can't do much if a landslide/rockslide happens...

 

[Big Doopie]

I mean, you can't do much if a landslide/rockslide happens...

You can always wheelsuck it’s a good tactic. You only learn it by going to the TDF.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The potential rockslide is in Brienz/above it and until now the road between it and Lantsch/Lenz has been closed (since Easter), no main roads.
ATM the Albulastraße and the Pass are boh open.

 

[Potomac]

Ongoing list of men's races shortened/neutered/cancelled due to natural phenomena (or, in certain cases, 'bad weather') this season:
- Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana
- Vuelta a Murcia
- Stage 1 of Gran Camiño
- Stage 3 of Gran Camiño
- All four stages of Tour of Antalya
- Queen stage of Tirreno
- Stage 6 of Paris-Nice
- Ronde van Drenthe
- Stage 13 of the Giro
- Mont Ventoux Challenge
- and now possibly the queen stage of this

Definitely the worst season for (non-Covid-related) changes and cancellations in a long time...

That could be a great thread by itself, with a chart showing the frequency each year for the last 20, 30, 50? years....the more data the better of course.

 

[RedheadDane]

- Stage 1 of Gran Camiño
- Stage 3 of Gran Camiño

Only stage on of Gran Camino got cancelled. The rest just got Vingegaarded.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Only stage on of Gran Camino got cancelled. The rest just got Vingegaarded.

It got turned into a wineyard?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

The potential rockslide is in Brienz/above it and until now the road between it and Lantsch/Lenz has been closed (since Easter), no main roads.
ATM the Albulastraße and the Pass are boh open.

It‘s a pretty well-monitored situation, the problem is known and constantly observed, I think if the road is going to be closed, it‘s going to be a bit in advance, so it doesn‘t look too bad right now.

 

[RedheadDane]

It got turned into a wineyard?

No, Vingegaard was there!

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Only stage on of Gran Camino got cancelled. The rest just got Vingegaarded.

Stage 3 was shortened, though, iirc an early climb was cut out and the final ramp was shortened, because it had snowed heavily overnight. All the snow had melted by racetime so there wouldn‘t even have been snow at the roadside but I think a large number of route change decisions are taken after riders look out of the window in the morning and see miserable weather.

 

[BR2]

Ongoing list of men's races shortened/neutered/cancelled due to natural phenomena (or, in certain cases, 'bad weather') this season:
- Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana
- Vuelta a Murcia
- Stage 1 of Gran Camiño
- Stage 3 of Gran Camiño
- All four stages of Tour of Antalya
- Queen stage of Tirreno
- Stage 6 of Paris-Nice
- Ronde van Drenthe
- Stage 13 of the Giro
- Mont Ventoux Challenge
- and now possibly the queen stage of this

Definitely the worst season for (non-Covid-related) changes and cancellations in a long time...

A combination of more extrem weather and a more and more careful approach - cycling really needs to come up with a better concept as the weather phenomenons will get a lot worse.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

A combination of more extrem weather and a more and more careful approach - cycling really needs to come up with a better concept as the weather phenomenons will get a lot worse.

In fairness, five of these were changed or cancelled due to snowfall, that’s the one weather phenomenon that won’t interfere as much in the future.

 

[Samamba]

Mader jumping to the front group which already had Narvaez (2'38 behind) in it. This one will be raced hard, definitely now that basically everyone knows tmrws stage will be a dud.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Mader jumping to the front group which already had Narvaez (2'38 behind) in it. This one will be raced hard, definitely now that basically everyone knows tmrws stage will be a dud.

I didn‘t know all the cyclists are geologists. The road they would take tomorrow is still open today. But you have to assume the worst so you should attack today.

 

[Nick2413]

Ongoing list of men's races shortened/neutered/cancelled due to natural phenomena (or, in certain cases, 'bad weather') this season:
- Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana
- Vuelta a Murcia
- Stage 1 of Gran Camiño
- Stage 3 of Gran Camiño
- All four stages of Tour of Antalya
- Queen stage of Tirreno
- Stage 6 of Paris-Nice
- Ronde van Drenthe
- Stage 13 of the Giro
- Mont Ventoux Challenge
- and now possibly the queen stage of this

Definitely the worst season for (non-Covid-related) changes and cancellations in a long time...

At least a rock slide is a real reason. How many of the other stages had legitimate reasoning other than tough conditions?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

At least a rock slide is a real reason. How many of the other stages had legitimate reasoning other than tough conditions?

Earthquake - Antalya
Snow - Tramuntana, Murcia, Gran Camiño 2x, Drenthe
Storm/Wind - Paris-Nice, Tirreno, Ventoux
'Rain' - Giro

 

[Nick2413]

Earthquake - Antalya
Snow - Tramuntana, Murcia, Gran Camiño 2x, Drenthe
Storm/Wind - Paris-Nice, Tirreno, Ventoux
'Rain' - Giro

Time to swap the Vuelta and Giro, and consider AM starts for hot Tour stages. Problems solved.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Time to swap the Vuelta and Giro, and consider AM starts for hot Tour stages. Problems solved.

Time to swap Giro & Tour

 

[Izzyeviel]

Stage 3 was shortened, though, iirc an early climb was cut out and the final ramp was shortened, because it had snowed heavily overnight. All the snow had melted by racetime so there wouldn‘t even have been snow at the roadside but I think a large number of route change decisions are taken after riders look out of the window in the morning and see miserable weather.

Sods law. If you are going to shorten/cancel stages then you should really be doing so before the action starts so everyone knows what to expect.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Stylish attack from Mader, UAE seem to have at least realised now that the race is going on up the road as Trek don't really have the horses.

 

[Potomac]

PCS showing two sprints at Turtmann, one km apart from each other.

 

[RedheadDane]

PCS showing two sprints at Turtmann, one km apart from each other.

It's that Tissot sprint thing.

 

[Andre]

GCN choosing to show Tour of Slovenia instead of Suisse??

 

[houtdffan]

has the stage been changed?

Flobikes has the leaders 27km from the line and not on the mountain? what is going on?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Hirschi, Gregoire, Pidcock favourites I think if the first 7k of the climb is raced at a steady tempo. Skjelmose and Ayuso are very fast after a climb but will probably be too closely marked.