A Theory regarding the huge influx of "EPO" Positives...

[RTMcFadden]

You're either a trolling moron or don't really understand the biochemical pathways you're hoping will explain away exogeneous EPO.

I'm not sure anybody fully understands the biochemical pathways that produce EPO or how they are affected by stressors. While I don't think that dietary suppliments would probably influence the chemical structure of EPO produced by the body, I don't think there has been any research in this area.

 

[Anonymous]

LOL. The first thing you need to understand about Occam's Razor is that it proves nothing. The second thing you need to understand about Occam's Razor is that there is nothing else to understand about Occam's Razor.

The first thing you need to understand about this subject: They were bused with SYNTHETIC EPO in their blood. The second thing you need to understand about this subject is there is nothing else to understand about this subject.

 

[issoisso]

You're either a trolling moron

Read his other posts. It's exactly what he is. He keeps getting banned and keeps coming back. The fact that he doesn't get perma-banned is insane.

This is, I believe, his 6th account.

 

[red_explosions]

No.

Yes, I do believe EPO has a far overrated effect on athletic performance but I'm in no way stating that professional riders are "purposely" enacting strategies in order to produce extra EPO within their bodies, but are taking an artificial/exogenous supplement unknowingly to them that is producing an unfavourable amount of the overrated substance.
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Doping can't win you a Tour De France... Its not the Holy Grail to athletic performance....

As other have pointed out, the test is designed to detect artificial EPO. So even in the unlikely event of a supplement stimulating the excessive production of natural EPO, the cyclist would still not get popped for doping, unless you are suggesting that a supplement could stimulate the production of artificial EPO in the body, which is quite frankly absurd.

 

[Deadlift]

Read his other posts. It's exactly what he is. He keeps getting banned and keeps coming back. The fact that he doesn't get perma-banned is insane.

This is, I believe, his 6th account.

???????...

 

[hfer07]

No, what I'm trying to get at is. The artificial/exogenous supplements riders are taking within WADA regulation, is a factor in producing EPO naturally in the body which could result in a positive.
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Doping can't win you a Tour De France... Its not the Holy Grail to athletic performance....

 

[Deadlift]

As other have pointed out, the test is designed to detect artificial EPO. So even in the unlikely event of a supplement stimulating the excessive production of natural EPO, the cyclist would still not get popped for doping, unless you are suggesting that a supplement could stimulate the production of artificial EPO in the body, which is quite frankly absurd.

Maybe what we are seeing is an artificial/exogenous supplement taken to enhance performance, chemically reacting with the EPO naturally made in the body & producing artificial EPO???... How about that one???..

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe what we are seeing is an artificial/exogenous supplement taken to enhance performance, chemically reacting with the EPO naturally made in the body & producing artificial EPO???... How about that one???..

How 'bout some evidence (other than your hypothesis)?

 

[red_explosions]

Maybe what we are seeing is an artificial/exogenous supplement taken to enhance performance, chemically reacting with the EPO naturally made in the body & producing artificial EPO???... How about that one???..

How about when you're in a hole, quit digging?

 

[Deadlift]

How 'bout some evidence (other than your hypothesis)?

Exactly. Everybodys trolling the idea, but what bloody evidence do they have to suggest otherwise???. It could be true as to why so many riders are testing positive.

 

[Escarabajo]

Read his other posts. It's exactly what he is. He keeps getting banned and keeps coming back. The fact that he doesn't get perma-banned is insane.

This is, I believe, his 6th account.

So who is this one? Phanton menace? Or Hombre de Hoyo?

I was wondering because this thread does not make any sense at all either.

 

[Deadlift]

Are we all done. It could be the case?..

 

[red_explosions]

Exactly. Everybodys trolling the idea, but what bloody evidence do they have to suggest otherwise???. It could be true as to why so many riders are testing positive.

If you're putting forward an explanation as to why so many get popped for r-EPO, it's up to you to back it up, otherwise anybody can say anything. You might as well say those riders eating too many marshmallows are the ones failing the test, therefore marshmallows are the cause of excessive production of r-EPO.

You need to actually bring some evidence to the party, something you have so far, in spades, failed to do.

 

[Anonymous]

Exactly. Everybodys trolling the idea, but what bloody evidence do they have to suggest otherwise???. It could be true as to why so many riders are testing positive.

Well I think too many pro cyclists are spending too much time in non-pressurized airplanes thus super-charging their body's ability to make rEPO. In fact I think Ricco was on a stationary trainer doing circles over Milan at 35,000 feet with the windows open. He was training at super-high altitude in sub-zero temperatures eating rice cakes and BAM, he gets popped for CERA.

That's just bad luck.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

This thread has become pointless. The original question was both given a proper, logical answer, and the poster given plenty of replies to why the question is not scientifically viable. The thread will now be closed.