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I do not believe Lance or Alberto are taking drugs or doping, nor do they require such methods. However, I do feel that they have a "competitive advantage". Think about this ...

Both Lance and Alberto have had brain surgery. Perhaps something was done during this surgery that has enhanced their abilities on the bike. Perhaps they feel less pain, or the O2 centres of their brains were adjusted.

I think this theory is much sounder than many. Please discuss.
 
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But seriously you are an idiot.
 
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But seriously you are an idiot.

Why do you say that? Do you not find it at all interesting that 2 of the best stage racers of recent times have both had brain surgery? That would be considered a bit of an odd common link between them, you would have to agree with that?

I am just saying this is a theory. It is no more silly than blood doping.
 
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Why do you say that? Do you not find it at all interesting that 2 of the best stage racers of recent times have both had brain surgery? That would be considered a bit of an odd common link between them, you would have to agree with that?

I am just saying this is a theory. It is no more silly than blood doping.

you are write. There is no evidence to suggest that these great stage racers have been bood doping, this knid of behaviour is uncommon in proffessional endurance sports. It is only resonaly to conculde that their surgery has somehow changed their physiological make up after all it happened to both of them and they both have won the tour da france.

I've often wondered when cyclist would start getting brain surgery to go faster, I even heared a roumer about a special clinic in Vienna opening up to perform such opperations as well as a number of spanish and italian doctors who are now undertaking backyard brain opperations.
 
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It is an odd coincidence. There is no science that even suggests that having brain surgery can, in any way, lead to improved athletic performance.

If you think there is a link, please research the topic and post your findings. I recommend PubMed as a search engine for medical journals.
 
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It is an odd coincidence. There is no science that even suggests that having brain surgery can, in any way, lead to improved athletic performance.

If you think there is a link, please research the topic and post your findings. I recommend PubMed as a search engine for medical journals.

I will look, but I must profess that I am not a medical specialist. However, it is a theory worth talking about. I think it to be more than an odd coincidence.
 
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you are write. There is no evidence to suggest that these great stage racers have been bood doping, this knid of behaviour is uncommon in proffessional endurance sports. It is only resonaly to conculde that their surgery has somehow changed their physiological make up after all it happened to both of them and they both have won the tour da france.

I've often wondered when cyclist would start getting brain surgery to go faster, I even heared a roumer about a special clinic in Vienna opening up to perform such opperations as well as a number of spanish and italian doctors who are now undertaking backyard brain opperations.

I sense that you are making fun of this theory, partly based on the numerous spelling mistakes and your username. Let me know if this is incorrect.
 
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I sense that you are making fun of this theory, partly based on the numerous spelling mistakes and your username. Let me know if this is incorrect.

I am not a very good speller due to a accident I had as a child. And my user name is simply because I love Lance and think that he is wonderful! Dont you?

I think that your theory is very interesting and wouldnt be supprised if it turns out to be correct as it is something that I have suspected for some time.
 
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I am not a very good speller due to a accident I had as a child. And my user name is simply because I love Lance and think that he is wonderful! Dont you?

I think that your theory is very interesting and wouldnt be supprised if it turns out to be correct as it is something that I have suspected for some time.

Funny, only a few short months ago you referred to Ayn Rand as one of the greatest advocates of libertarian theory, and now a childhood accident has you spelling like a third grade student and unable to construct a simple sentence. One concludes that either you are a child and this accident happened very recently, or perhaps you are pretending not to be the person you are responding to in this thread.

Now, to the argument that brain surgery leads to stage race domination. Didn't you see the Travolta movie Phenomenon? Clearly the surgeons inserted large tumors that are stimulating all areas of the brain. An unfair advantage IMO. This thread makes my brain hurt.
 
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Now, to the argument that brain surgery leads to stage race domination. Didn't you see the Travolta movie Phenomenon? Clearly the surgeons inserted large tumors that are stimulating all areas of the brain. An unfair advantage IMO. This thread makes my brain hurt.

The movie, while fictional, still had an interesting premise ...
 
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I think this is a little far fetched, as nervous system conveys pain for a reason, to stop us destroying ourselves. If the part of the brain which process pain is damaged or altered, my understanding (which is pretty minimal) is that the brain would actvate unused brain, or create new conections to get around the damaged tissue.

However i think there is another case which would suport your theory, Cadel got put into a coma by a horse when he was like 8, and had some brain surgery.
 
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I think this is a little far fetched, as nervous system conveys pain for a reason, to stop us destroying ourselves. If the part of the brain which process pain is damaged or altered, my understanding (which is pretty minimal) is that the brain would actvate unused brain, or create new conections to get around the damaged tissue.

However i think there is another case which would suport your theory, Cadel got put into a coma by a horse when he was like 8, and had some brain surgery.

Interesting. He is obviously talented. This supports that brain surgery could improve performance.

Perhaps with Lance and Alberto, it resulted in greater use of more of their brain.
 
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I do not believe Lance or Alberto are taking drugs or doping, nor do they require such methods. However, I do feel that they have a "competitive advantage". Think about this ...

Both Lance and Alberto have had brain surgery. Perhaps something was done during this surgery that has enhanced their abilities on the bike. Perhaps they feel less pain, or the O2 centres of their brains were adjusted.

I think this theory is much sounder than many. Please discuss.

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pedaling squares said:
Funny, only a few short months ago you referred to Ayn Rand as one of the greatest advocates of libertarian theory, and now a childhood accident has you spelling like a third grade student and unable to construct a simple sentence. One concludes that either you are a child and this accident happened very recently, or perhaps you are pretending not to be the person you are responding to in this thread.

I dont view my previous posts as contradictory to what I have posted today. There were probably many spelling errors in my earlier posts as well. I do try and type my posts in Word first but sometimes time does not allow for it.
 
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Funny, only a few short months ago you referred to Ayn Rand as one of the greatest advocates of libertarian theory, and now a childhood accident has you spelling like a third grade student and unable to construct a simple sentence. One concludes that either you are a child and this accident happened very recently, or perhaps you are pretending not to be the person you are responding to in this thread.

Now, to the argument that brain surgery leads to stage race domination. Didn't you see the Travolta movie Phenomenon? Clearly the surgeons inserted large tumors that are stimulating all areas of the brain. An unfair advantage IMO. This thread makes my brain hurt.

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Phantom Menace said:
I do not believe Lance or Alberto are taking drugs or doping, nor do they require such methods. However, I do feel that they have a "competitive advantage". Think about this ...

Both Lance and Alberto have had brain surgery. Perhaps something was done during this surgery that has enhanced their abilities on the bike. Perhaps they feel less pain, or the O2 centres of their brains were adjusted.

I think this theory is much sounder than many. Please discuss.

I've seen drilled out crank arms, chain rings and derailleur arms. I'd suspect that the removal by surgery of unused brain matter was just His Lanceness's way of shedding weight while circumventing the UCI's 6.8kg rule. :D:D

Alberto's surgery was for a genuine life threatening illness.
 
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Alberto's surgery was for a genuine life threatening illness.

Doesnt meen that it didnt give him special powers or abilities.

You people obviously arnt open to this perfectly reasonable suggestion.
 
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Phantom Menace said:
Perhaps they feel less pain, or the O2 centres of their brains were adjusted.

I think this theory is much sounder than many. Please discuss.

No... it's not.... this theory is actually quite silly.

O2 centres are deep in the brainstem and they can't be surgically "adjusted". They cannot be turned up to "11".
 
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