After one week of racing, who will win the Giro 100?

[Brullnux]

No he didn't, the GPS was just being trolling like normal.

 

[bambino]

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No he didn't, the GPS was just being trolling like normal.

Yep Thomas lost around 3 minutes to Nairo and 2 minutes to Nibs after climbing back to his bike. The GPS was measuring Thomas against Maglia Rosa being Jungles.

 

[bambino]

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I can't see past Nibali, as showed in Croatia his curse is stronger than ever.
And after one week three of the riders stronger than him are already out with another two looking very below their best shape.

I find it pretty odd to declare the 3 riders (Landa, Thomas, Yates) with total of massive 1 career GC podium by default stronger than a guy with 4 wins+4 podiums. Guess it is just the syptom of underrating Nibali big time in this forum.

For voodoo being on I agree

Now they are stronger than him, the past doesn't count in evaluating what could be their top shape in 2017.
And i don't think that Nibali now could even reach level a near to his best because is fading, furthermore his best is probably overrated due to his luck. The top shape Nibali is widely considered the one of 2013-2014, he dominated the 2014 Tour but the second was Peraud, he easily won at the Giro the year before and the second was Uran then he lost the Vuelta against Horner.

If you didn't notice, he only lost to Thomas on those trio today which is normal as Thomas is ITT specialist. It is very brave of you to suggest that Yates, Landa and even Thomas are currently stronger tham Nibs. I could even make a virtual bet that he is going to beat all of them (save unchased attacks that Landa will be allowed) from this point to the rest of Giro.

There is absolutely zero evidence they are stronger. And I'm not sure why 2017 Nibs would be so much faded from 2016 when he won Giro? Yes Kruijswijk did fell, but there were other rides he crushed (i.e. Chaves, Vuelta #3) big time when he reached the peak.

And he hasn't reached his peak this Giro yet...

Thomas was impressive also on sunday despite the crash, he cracked in the last kilometres but between the foot of the climb and circa 4 kms to go he steadly gained time to the GC group and than the leading trio.
And don't forget that a couple of week ago in Tyrol was at the level of Pinot, i think that without the crash he would have dropped Nibali.
The problem of Thomas i think is the Stelvio stage, probably too much for him.

You can compare Thomas to Pinot or whoever few weeks ago, but there is still zero evidence that Thomas, Landa and Yates would all be sronger tham Nibs in this Giro (which was the claim you started). There are couple of evidence already for Yates and Landa that they are not.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

 

[Mr.White]

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I can't see past Nibali, as showed in Croatia his curse is stronger than ever.
And after one week three of the riders stronger than him are already out with another two looking very below their best shape.

I find it pretty odd to declare the 3 riders (Landa, Thomas, Yates) with total of massive 1 career GC podium by default stronger than a guy with 4 wins+4 podiums. Guess it is just the syptom of underrating Nibali big time in this forum.

For voodoo being on I agree

Now they are stronger than him, the past doesn't count in evaluating what could be their top shape in 2017.
And i don't think that Nibali now could even reach level a near to his best because is fading, furthermore his best is probably overrated due to his luck. The top shape Nibali is widely considered the one of 2013-2014, he dominated the 2014 Tour but the second was Peraud, he easily won at the Giro the year before and the second was Uran then he lost the Vuelta against Horner.

So you know that they are stronger, and you think Nibali can't reach high level? Well I can only tell you what I think, and I think that you don't know much...

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

Less than that.

Well, the same can be said about Alberto in 2009.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

By... only claiming yellow after the ITT on the penultimate stage?

 

[Alexandre B.]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

I'd be interested to know why you're thinking that.

 

[tobydawq]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

I'd be interested to know why you're thinking that.

Probably because there was absolutely no racing until after the Pyrenees. But then things went nuts.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

I'd be interested to know why you're thinking that.

Probably because there was absolutely no racing until after the Pyrenees. But then things went nuts.

But the Pyrenees were in the second week. The first week ended when Voeckler took yellow in Saint-Flour.

 

[WheelofGear]

Mollema.

 

[LeoMontero]

Someone think that Doumolin, born and grown in Netherlands, -50 mts under the sea level, can match a guy that born and grow +2500 meters above sea level in the stages 16, that goes over 2000 meters? and then there are 2 and even 3 stages that suits pure climbers.

 

[Arked]

He can't match him but he can be close enough.

 

[tobydawq]

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Probably because there was absolutely no racing until after the Pyrenees. But then things went nuts.

But the Pyrenees were in the second week. The first week ended when Voeckler took yellow in Saint-Flour.[/quote]

Yes, but there was just one week of racing (the final) - so he won it after a week's racing

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Silly. Nobody is gonna win the Giro after a week of racing. It requires three weeks to win.

Idunno. Cadel Evans won the Tour after a week of racing.

I'd be interested to know why you're thinking that.

Probably because there was absolutely no racing until after the Pyrenees. But then things went nuts.

But the Pyrenees were in the second week. The first week ended when Voeckler took yellow in Saint-Flour.

Nothing happened until Gap. Everybody was on their TTT times barring the stage 1 crash and the few seconds Evans gained to Mûr-de-Brétagne for an interminable amount of time. The Pyrenees were raced as a group ride. The first two weeks were utter dreck, and that includes the Pyrenees, even if I do have a soft spot for Samu winning on Basque Mountain. The final week of the race was much beloved, but the 2011 Tour was just a really good edition of the Dauphiné.