Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

Soooo great Bertie

 

[Red Rick]

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I bet you that many people were waiting to make fun of us for hyping this up!

Easy, this is made for him.

Been 6 years since he won in france on the WT level.

Finally in yellow again.

The hype is tame compared to the RG hype right now

 

[arvc40]

Yes yes yes yes BOOOOOOOOM !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jilbiker]

When I saw Bertie's training videos posted on his twitter I suspected he was all set to crush today's stage. It seemed in his videos he was focused on the out of the seat riding which is his strength. But the shape I see of him at the Dauphine is crushing. He seems to be in prime shape even better than 2014. His body fat % seems like it is at no greater than 3% which is good but check his shoulders, I have not seen his shoulders that buff or strong, which shows that he has strength/power to complement the 3% body fat. The concern now is peak a bit early? Hope not. He should ease it for the Dauphine.Power up sometimes but mix it with some ease.

 

[Jspear]

Can he keep yellow till the end? That'd be cool.

 

[TheYouyou7]

I bet on him yday (for TDF) he was 5.10 and now 4.10 here comes da money

 

[BlurryVII]

He did it as expected, glad it was on fair ground cause I don't think AC and Porte would've beaten Froome under the rain.

Now to continue building for the Tour. His performance on Arrate in PV was slightly better I think around 7 w/kg, he just said he still lacks velocity and heart rate very high due to the lack of racing.

Looking good so far.

 

[matusow_m]

Contador should be most worried about Quintana think he is the guy most likely to finally overtake Contador but if it will happen this year already im not sure but Quintana seems better this year atleast so I expect its gonne be a nice fight!

 

[TheYouyou7]

He oubviously lacks something, that's what this race is all about !

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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When I saw Bertie's training videos posted on his twitter I suspected he was all set to crush today's stage. It seemed in his videos he was focused on the out of the seat riding which is his strength. But the shape I see of him at the Dauphine is crushing. He seems to be in prime shape even better than 2014. His body fat % seems like it is at no greater than 3% which is good but check his shoulders, I have not seen his shoulders that buff or strong, which shows that he has strength/power to complement the 3% body fat. The concern now is peak a bit early? Hope not. He should ease it for the Dauphine.Power up sometimes but mix it with some ease.

You have no concept of body fat if you think Contador or any cyclist is at 3%. Chicken Rasmussen in all his glory was never near 3% never mind Contador.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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When I saw Bertie's training videos posted on his twitter I suspected he was all set to crush today's stage. It seemed in his videos he was focused on the out of the seat riding which is his strength. But the shape I see of him at the Dauphine is crushing. He seems to be in prime shape even better than 2014. His body fat % seems like it is at no greater than 3% which is good but check his shoulders, I have not seen his shoulders that buff or strong, which shows that he has strength/power to complement the 3% body fat. The concern now is peak a bit early? Hope not. He should ease it for the Dauphine.Power up sometimes but mix it with some ease.

Even the skinniest guys are no lower than 4.5%

3% body fat is essential body fat. You're screwed if you dip to that level.
You also need some storage fat on top, otherwise it's super unhealthy.

 

[perico]

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It's frustrating to have you answer my posts without reading them.
If you have read what I wrote, you would have seen that I classified Lotto Jumbo as one of the possibilities regarding GT teams, but wrote right afterwards that it would hardly happen, since they don't have the money to afford Contador, and in the end I said that he'll either end up in a new team, or in Cannondale/Katusha.

Stop answering my posts without having read them and start answering them only after reading them.

It just confuses me that you exclude two teams that would be near perfect fits with plenty of climbing support, have a big enough budget and have also expressed interest in him, yet include a team that would never be interested in him and doesn't have a big enough budget anyway.
I thought you were trying to figure out which team Alberto would likely sign for. In that case, it makes zero, and I mean absolutely downright zero, sense to exclude Lampre, Trek and even Etixx.
You wrote:

Doing a simple exercise, let's exclude the teams that are highly doubtful that would want/can hire him

Well, I can tell you, that both Lampre and Trek want and can hire him. LottoJumbo does not want to hire him nor can hire him.

LOL it would be a real saddle sore on the rear end of a certain former 7 time champion to see Contador as Trek ambassador.

I don't see him going to Lampre. Costa will be gone, they suck at TTTs, and besides are pretty worthless in the high mountains (or until Meintjes lives up to his billing). Ulissi is talented. Meintjes and Grmay are young and haven't shown much over 3 weeks. They are young and talented, but haven't been serious GT material since Simoni's prime.

 

[Carols]

Needless to say I'm extremely Pleased with Berto's ride today. He looks fit, lean and Fast . Hopefully he holds yellow throughout the entire race . And this moves him closer to his Peak for le Tour!

The announcer I had kept saying his bike had the national Spanish colors on it and I'm yelling 'Moron, Pink, Yellow, Red = Winner of all 3 GTs you dunce". Geez it gets old with these Brit commentators and their oh so obvious Sky and Porte bias also. But Berto showed them how it's done .

 

[Carols]

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It's frustrating to have you answer my posts without reading them.
If you have read what I wrote, you would have seen that I classified Lotto Jumbo as one of the possibilities regarding GT teams, but wrote right afterwards that it would hardly happen, since they don't have the money to afford Contador, and in the end I said that he'll either end up in a new team, or in Cannondale/Katusha.

Stop answering my posts without having read them and start answering them only after reading them.

It just confuses me that you exclude two teams that would be near perfect fits with plenty of climbing support, have a big enough budget and have also expressed interest in him, yet include a team that would never be interested in him and doesn't have a big enough budget anyway.
I thought you were trying to figure out which team Alberto would likely sign for. In that case, it makes zero, and I mean absolutely downright zero, sense to exclude Lampre, Trek and even Etixx.
You wrote:

Doing a simple exercise, let's exclude the teams that are highly doubtful that would want/can hire him

Well, I can tell you, that both Lampre and Trek want and can hire him. LottoJumbo does not want to hire him nor can hire him.

LOL it would be a real saddle sore on the rear end of a certain former 7 time champion to see Contador as Trek ambassador.

Seeing Schleck dom for him would be a real treat LOL!

 

[Miburo]

 

[Publicus]

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Hoping he just sits on Froomes wheel the rest of the Dauphine, if Porte gets away, so be it.

This. He doesn't need to go deep. He has a marker of where he is strength-wise. Follow Froome and let Porte or whoever take overall.

 

[sir fly]

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Hoping he just sits on Froomes wheel the rest of the Dauphine, if Porte gets away, so be it.

This. He doesn't need to go deep. He has a marker of where he is strength-wise. Follow Froome and let Porte or whoever take overall.

On contrary. He should beat Sky wherever a chance presents itself. He should discourage them and pull back long time ago lost psychological advantage. There's no worry about spending himself. He's experience enough and there's a month to recover.

 

[Poursuivant]

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Hoping he just sits on Froomes wheel the rest of the Dauphine, if Porte gets away, so be it.

This. He doesn't need to go deep. He has a marker of where he is strength-wise. Follow Froome and let Porte or whoever take overall.

On contrary. He should beat Sky wherever a chance presents itself. He should discourage them and pull back long time ago lost psychological advantage. There's no worry about spending himself. He's experience enough and there's a month to recover.

Agree

 

[Breh]

If you're experienced enough, you shouldn't care about a psychological advantage or disadvantage.

 

[May0maniac]

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If he's gone to a big team then personally I hope it will be Etixx and he can finally bring them some GT success.

Etixx just isn't strong enough in the mountains (I guess Jungels, De la Cruz, Verona and Brambilla would be his domestiques?) and Kittel would want his leadout train so they would have to ride different schedules.

I wouldn't mind seeing him at Etixx, those guys + Dan Martin would be a decent team for him and maybe he could focus on Giro + Vuelta and let Kittel have a big train for the Tour (ok, that's probably just wishful thinking).

 

[TheYouyou7]

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If you're experienced enough, you shouldn't care about a psychological advantage or disadvantage.

+1

 

[LaFlorecita]

Of course he shouldn't just sit on Froome's wheel and let Porte take the overall. That's nonsense.

 

[BlurryVII]

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If you're experienced enough, you shouldn't care about a psychological advantage or disadvantage.

Agree, Contador doesn't care about any of that, the only thing that keeps all his attention as you could see in interviews, is his form. He said many times, he'd rather finish 2nd a preperation race with great legs than winning with average/bad sensations.

He knows he can beat anyone on top of his game, when it matters.

 

[sir fly]

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If you're experienced enough, you shouldn't care about a psychological advantage or disadvantage.

It's not something objective that exists on the road, it's an inner feeling related to your and your opponent's self-confidence.
And if you think he's immune to the effects of psychological warfare, you should look back at 2013., this year's Algarve, PN.... Contador's not so good back runner. It means a lot to him to know at every moment he's better than his rivals.

 

[Matteo.]

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Of course he shouldn't just sit on Froome's wheel and let Porte take the overall. That's nonsense.

Indeed. None remember the shame of 2014? I think he will go for the overall win , first because he's Alberto and second because he never won Dauphine
and this year he has a decent team