Your right.Miburo said:Maybe he was at his best but we can't be sure since we haven't really seen him perform in the race.
Oh, but I think he was at a 2009 Tour and 2011 Giro level at last year's Tour.Miburo said:rhubroma said:I don't understand why people think Contador can't be the guy he was five years ago, when last year demonstrated emphatically he can. Only a crash marred an otherwise stellar performance, while he won the Vuelta coming back from injury.
He himself has said he intentionally started the season a notch below last year, when he was not riding the double and wanted to reassert himself after a poor 2013.
Let us then wait and see how he goes at the Giro and Tour, before making drastic conclusions.
Maybe he can maybe he can't. It's a fact that we haven't seen the best contador in a gt since 2011. There are many circumstances that can be called as an excuse, but it's still 4 years ago.
I think he can still be the same, but i just believe in the guy. We'll see next month. No excuses.
Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
Yeah, yeah...LaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
Alberto usually carries a very high base level and does two peaks, a small one early and a major one for his main objective. The super peakers (Andy, and geez I hope Nibali doesn't start doing it every year) have a much lower base level and then do one major peak.rm7 said:I actually have a question for some of the "nerds" in here. It's not intended to be clinic stuff at all, so i'm sorry if it's gonna look like that.
But when we see riders like Nibali, Schleck, Armstrong doing these super peaks at the tour without performing in the spring at all (ex. Schleck maybe, always there for the ardenes), how do they pull it of regarding to training in the winther?
Contador 2013 never reached a good level at all, but i dont really get it. Example Contador wasn't THAT bad in the spring, he was a level beyond Froome. How couldn't he raise his level through training blocks in May and June? I know he maybe didn't have the best winter preparation, but he wasn't anything like Nibali and Lance in the spring if you know what I mean.
Nibali seems to be at a VERY bad level in the spring (like last year), and then he will suddenly raise his level from 70 % to 100 % in one month. Why couldn't Contador go from maybe 75 % to 100 % in 2013? His form in spring was better than the super peak guys in normally are in the spring.
Carol responded to you with the tech stuff above and I want to add that even the greatest champions remain human and their performance is affected by "external " pressures and events that do not necessarily enhance the benefits of the training method they select in a particular season. I happen to believe that "external adversity" always stimulated Alberto to provide us with great performances. (troubles with Astana- the brain injuries- amstrong's and Bruynel betrayal). But in 2013, (and mind you, i am not implying complaisance here ) with a new domestic life, and other out of sport obligations his performance never rose to the level needed to win races. And then again, since i don't know him intimately, my whole theory could be mistaken.Carols said:Alberto usually carries a very high base level and does two peaks, a small one early and a major one for his main objective. The super peakers (Andy, and geez I hope Nibali doesn't start doing it every year) have a much lower base level and then do one major peak.rm7 said:I actually have a question for some of the "nerds" in here. It's not intended to be clinic stuff at all, so i'm sorry if it's gonna look like that.
But when we see riders like Nibali, Schleck, Armstrong doing these super peaks at the tour without performing in the spring at all (ex. Schleck maybe, always there for the ardenes), how do they pull it of regarding to training in the winther?
Contador 2013 never reached a good level at all, but i dont really get it. Example Contador wasn't THAT bad in the spring, he was a level beyond Froome. How couldn't he raise his level through training blocks in May and June? I know he maybe didn't have the best winter preparation, but he wasn't anything like Nibali and Lance in the spring if you know what I mean.
Nibali seems to be at a VERY bad level in the spring (like last year), and then he will suddenly raise his level from 70 % to 100 % in one month. Why couldn't Contador go from maybe 75 % to 100 % in 2013? His form in spring was better than the super peak guys in normally are in the spring.
This year is very different for him as he didn't do his small spring peak but is instead trying to hold back form for the double. Whether he can judge this correctly is something we will all just speculate about until we see him at the Giro!
2013 he just totally blew his prep, never peaked I don't think, but he put that right last year so now we just need to see the unveiling of this attempt at the double.
Yeah Giro is gret,otoh as of me I want to see him winning MR and actually trying planned double.Thats all I want cuz that would be legendary!LaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
Contador must have heard something about the pink discussion since he retweeted this picLaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
Yes I lost a bet with NetserkILovecycling said:Yeah Giro is gret,otoh as of me I want to see him winning MR and actually trying planned double.Thats all I want cuz that would be legendary!LaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
Btw have you lost an avatar bet? I dont think you would pick tomeke avatar voluntary![]()
That version of the Maglia Rosa is so much better than the one they've been using in the recent yearsDBotero said:Contador must have heard something about the pink discussion since he retweeted this picLaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
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Agree, though I still thinking matching shorts, helmets and bikes should be saved for the final day. I liked Nibali's attitude to this, was a bit disapointed with Quintana last year...infeXio said:That version of the Maglia Rosa is so much better than the one they've been using in the recent yearsDBotero said:Contador must have heard something about the pink discussion since he retweeted this picLaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
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I have to agree, this one looks way better.infeXio said:That version of the Maglia Rosa is so much better than the one they've been using in the recent yearsDBotero said:Contador must have heard something about the pink discussion since he retweeted this picLaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
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I didn't see any response, just this post. I'm sure I would find your response interesting, please repost!Carol responded to you with the tech stuff above and I want to add that even the greatest champions remain human and their performance is affected by "external " pressures and events that do not necessarily enhance the benefits of the training method they select in a particular season. I happen to believe that "external adversity" always stimulated Alberto to provide us with great performances. (troubles with Astana- the brain injuries- amstrong's and Bruynel betrayal). But in 2013, (and mind you, i am not implying complaisance here ) with a new domestic life, and other out of sport obligations his performance never rose to the level needed to win races. And then again, since i don't know him intimately, my whole theory could be mistaken.
I like both versionsMayomaniac said:I have to agree, this one looks way better.infeXio said:That version of the Maglia Rosa is so much better than the one they've been using in the recent yearsDBotero said:Contador must have heard something about the pink discussion since he retweeted this picLaFlorecita said:Yes I agree. I really want to see him win the Giro again. Giro is my favorite raceMiburo said:I don't really care that much if he wins the tour, i just wanna see him again in pink.
The best color in cycling.
And Alberto looks really good in pink![]()
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This picture was taken durning the 2008 Plan de Corones MTT, if I'm not mistaken.
Why are you trolling? What gain you've? Are you upset that contador rides the giro? Or have you lost discussions in this forum and decided that you're on troll mode from now on?sir fly said:I think Tour of California jersey would suit him the best!
He loses an avatar bet with me if AC rides the Giro.Miburo said:Why are you trolling? What gain you've? Are you upset that contador rides the giro? Or have you lost discussions in this forum and decided that you're on troll mode from now on?sir fly said:I think Tour of California jersey would suit him the best!
Yeah that's a nice jersey. Bertie has won so many races, that could be another one to add to his vast collection of winners jerseys. Good suggestionsir fly said:I think Tour of California jersey would suit him the best!
I remember that story of that one guy who saw contador racing 2 weeks after his crash in the tour, was never confirmed if it was true but based on his vuelta i'm gonna go with it.LaFlorecita said:Keith Hollywood @keithhollywood 4h4 hours ago
@albertocontador I think you just passed me on the climb to Santiago El Teide, looking good!
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