Alberto Contador suspended until August 2012 (loses all results July 2010 - Jan 2012)

[Publicus]

The Spanish can't afford anyone else on unemployment benefit

Zing! You should take your act on the road

 

[LaFlorecita]

Or we could try singing the above song sung by dylan with a fangirl dancing to it..money might be quite good .

Not me!!!!!

 

[BYOP88]

Zing! You should take your act on the road

I guess I have just under 2 weeks before pitchers and catchers report!!

@Publicus; I'm a Contador fan but if you can't be flippant and laugh about the current situation, you'd end up mad.

 

[hfer07]

Contador's Press Conference (Spanish) on RTVE

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/ciclismo/contador-queda-sentimiento-no-he-dopado/1316006/

 

[Zam_Olyas]

CrueTrue Mike Kaltoft Jensen
The dismissal of Contador is only formal. He will be back at Saxo the moment the ban ends, the team says.

 

[Benotti69]

It would seems that it can change from pink to yellowish colour http://forums.steroid.com/showthrea...ing-from-pink-to-yellowish-color#.TzGTjcX9OEk


man thinks 'cause he rules the earth he can do with it as he please
and if things don't change soon, he will
Oh, man has invented his doom
First step was touching the moon.

now, they take him and they teach him and they groom him for life
and they set him on a path where he's bound to get ill
then they bury him with stars
sell his body like they do used cars.

now, he's hell-bent for destruction, he's afraid and confused
and his brain has been mismanaged with great skill
all he believe are his eyes
and his eyes, they just tell him lies
ya may be a noisemaker, spirit maker
heartbreaker, backbreaker
leave no stone unturned
may be an actor in a plot
that might be all that you got
til your error you clearly learn.

now he worships at an altar of a stagnant pool
and when he sees his reflection, he's fulfilled
oh, man is opposed to fair play
he wants it all and he wants it his way.

Or we could try singing the above song sung by dylan with a fangirl dancing to it..money might be quite good .

Dylan would give it royalty free too....

 

[The Hitch]

Contador's Press Conference (Spanish) on RTVE

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/ciclismo/contador-queda-sentimiento-no-he-dopado/1316006/

Who is the guy with the partially bald head that comes into the press conference before Contador. Sits on Bjarnes left hand side.

 

[Publicus]

I guess I have just under 2 weeks before pitchers and catchers report!!

@Publicus; I'm a Contador fan but if you can't be flippant and laugh about the current situation, you'd end up mad.

I'm right there with you. I'm counting the days until he returns with a vengance.

 

[Marva32]

yes I know the steak was eaten, it´s hard to proof anything that is not there.
And I´m not taking stand to whatever I think hes a doper or not, I only look at the evidence presented, and fact is, it´s not been proven.
That Contador have the burden of proof still don´t change the fact that neither UCI or WADA could proof how the clen entered hes body, so in legal terms we still don´t know.
What I personal think is extraneous.

The fact of the matter is that the CAS found there was proof that Clenbuterol was in Contador's system. Under the regulations, Clenbuterol is a 'strict liability' substance, if it is found in the system, it is a determination of guilt. It is then up to the rider to prove that the substance was not injested on purpose. Contador failed to prove this, and even if the CAS goes with the idea that it was most likely a case of a tainted supplement, that was not proven to be the case, and therefore Contador is guilty. How the substance got into the body is irrelevant except to the extent it can be shown to be an accident.

 

[The Hitch]

Who is this?

He was sat next to Bjarne for the conference.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Who is this?

He was sat next to Bjarne for the conference.

<sniped>

I did not see the interview, but it looks like Saxos media person Anders Damgaard

 

[The Hitch]

I did not see the interview, but it looks like Saxos media person Anders Damgaard

Thanks. Impressive knowledge that. Saw him shake Contadors hand and get in his car in Madrid and saw him again at the press conference so thought it must be someone important.

 

[thehog]

Who is this?

He was sat next to Bjarne for the conference.

That a Barney Stinson aka Neil Patrick Harris.

 

[sniper]

Contador are saying that:

"If there's anything I can do to prove my innocence I'll do it."

Why didn't you provide a hair sample when that was up for discussion, would be my question? As far as I know, no hair test was taken despite the fact that a hair test could determine if the clen had been used long term.

Seems kind of weird if he was innocent.

It does, doesn't it?

I thought this had been discussed ad nauseum in this forum. (...).

It has been, indeed. But the point remains perfectly valid. It's something he could have done additionally. That means: it may not have benefitted him, but it sure wouldn't have hurt him (of course, provided he's innocent). So to answer AC's own question ("what else could I have done to prove my innocense?"), well, the friggin hairtest. But too late now.

 

[hrotha]

That a Barney Stinson aka Neil Patrick Harris.

Lol, my thoughts exactly.

About the hair test: it's not that it would benefit him or hurt him, the idea is that it'd have been irrelevant, because all it could do was show that no clen had been in his body before his positive, but there are already plenty of previous tests to establish that fact. Unless clen was something you can actually mask, but everyone has always said it's easy to detect.

A hair test would have been just posturing. I'm sure you'd have been all over him for trying to manipulate the impressionable Panel like that.

 

[Paco_P]

The Spanish can't afford anyone else on unemployment benefit

... but the Germans and French don't give a damn ...

- the view from Spain (and Italy and Greece)

 

[craig1985]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/professor-goes-on-hunger-strike-for-contador

Lol wut?

 

[roundabout]

Lol, my thoughts exactly.

About the hair test: it's not that it would benefit him or hurt him, the idea is that it'd have been irrelevant, because all it could do was show that no clen had been in his body before his positive, but there are already plenty of previous tests to establish that fact. Unless clen was something you can actually mask, but everyone has always said it's easy to detect.

A hair test would have been just posturing. I'm sure you'd have been all over him for trying to manipulate the impressionable Panel like that.

I am still thinking of a hair test from the people who ate the meat but weren't tested. Riders and staff.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I haven't had an answer when I originally proposed this.

 

[doolols]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/professor-goes-on-hunger-strike-for-contador

Robles has taken such an extreme stance because, he says, watching Contador race helped him through a difficult stage in his life. “He brought me out of the depression I was suffering with, I could only get over it when I used to watch him racing in the afternoons on the TV. I was very ill, but in my house they knew that each afternoon they had to put me in front of the television and let me watch Contador, and that that helped me to move forwards,” he said.

Sounds rather like the fanboys of another high-profile rider. "He can't be guilty because (without actually doing anything) he helped me ..."

Someone should introduce him to the concept of DVDs.

 

[roundabout]

That's actually kind of sad. I wouldn't want anyone to harm themselves because a pro-rider actually tested positive.

 

[hrotha]

I am still thinking of a hair test from the people who ate the meat but weren't tested. Riders and staff.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I haven't had an answer when I originally proposed this.

Would trace amounts from just one incident show up and be detectable in the hair samples? I thought that test was used to show continued use of a substance.

But I don't really understand much about hair testing. I've always been puzzled by the fact that the French police found EPO in the hair of Festina riders in 1998, years before the UCI had an EPO test. Makes you wonder why they don't use hair testing as standard procedure.

 

[roundabout]

My idea based on the report that in Ovcharov's case his tablemates gave hair samples and traces were found.

Then again I could be imagining things.

 

[Azdak6]

Sounds rather like the fanboys of another high-profile rider. "He can't be guilty because (without actually doing anything) he helped me ..."

Someone should introduce him to the concept of DVDs.

On the other hand, the loss of weight should help him become a better climber.

 

[hrotha]

My idea based on the report that in Ovcharov's case his tablemates gave hair samples and traces were found.

Then again I could be imagining things.

You're right, good point.

 

[B_Ugli]

I watched the press conference yesterday on Eurosport and this coupled with the reaction from Spain along with comments by certain prominent figures in cycling suggest that the pro-doping culture in cycling is still deeply entrenched. I therefore take my hat off to the CAS for dealing with the case based on the facts rather than the over emotional, irrational & denial based spin rolled out by the Contador camp.

Yes the case took to long and yes the amount of C.B was not enough to give a performance enhancement but the meat and supplement theories would indicate a lot more Elite Athletes falling foul in the same way as Contador (which they havent). This is a point that no one (least of all the Spanish journalists at the press conference) have pressed Contador or Bjarne Riis on.