'Allo 'Allo! No blood testing at the ToC

[Tangled Tango]

Pay attention to the behaviour. Pat goes on the rampage instead of some kind of managed response. The guy is hiding many things. Not just some things. Many. He has nothing to hide using IOC-style managed doping policies. If the IOC-like program was working the rage wouldn't be there.

Also pay attention to the obsession with EPO testing. The other mention of EPO testing was at the Vuelta. In both races we saw some extreme performances. Especially at the ToC. Does EPO testing includes CERA? Is there a way to verify the number of procedures?

There's got to be a huge doping story in hiding. The lack of positives combined with Pat's behaviour are damning evidence. How long before it breaks?

Unfortunately such stories will probably never break. There are too many parties out there with too much to lose. The Omerta rules as always.

 

[fatandfast]

Unfortunately such stories will probably never break. There are too many parties out there with too much to lose. The Omerta rules as always.

better find out what is in Amgen's product line to answer your question. Look into when they sued Roche for stepping on their toes while trying to sell EPO look alikes. Don't know how much cash is at stake but many million for sure . Nothing would look worse than a guy coming up pos for using the sponsors product

 

[Michele]

- Shack did have the good old Disco train going up the final climb on the last with virtual unknowns dropping TDF GC top 10's.
- no blood control tests
- Radioschack likely tipped off
- Horner and Leipheimer looked like they were out for a Sunday stroll on the final climb
- Horner's power was sky high:

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Originally Posted by halamala
Chris Horner

Tour of California 2011, Stage 4, Final climb Sierra Rd

Elevation / Höhenmeter [m] : 532 m
Distance / Streckenlänge [Km] : 5.63 Km
Time in seconds / Fahrzeit in Sekunden [sec] : 1004 = 16 min 44 sec = 16:44
Weight rider / Gewicht Fahrer [kg] : 63.5 kg
Weight bicycle, clothes etc. / Gewicht Fahrrad [kg] : 8 kg

Grade / mittlere Seigung : 9.4 %
Average speed / mittlere Geschwindigkeit : 20.1 Km/h
Total weight / Gesamtgewicht : 71.5 kg

Power : 434.7 Watt
Power / kg : 6.8 Watt / kg

Source: [ http://www.rst.mp-all.de/bergauf.htm ]

I hope he'll release the SRM file later.
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It would be great if the Feds had a legal wiretap or e-mail monitoring program on tthe Tour of Cali o check for systematic doping.

That's insane!
The only reason I can find is due to the short distance?

 

[biokemguy]

testing, but who

They are testing this year, but apparently targeting the young 'clean' generation.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...r-of-californias-heat-is-a-real-killer_286630

So far, the highlight of the week was watching USADA grab the Bontrager team in the hallway. They were on their way to dinner and had a make a U-turn to donate some blood for the cause. Poor guys looked hungry, too. I hope they made the buffet before it closed.

Bet they get some real wonky results after yesterdays stage

 

[Benotti69]

They are testing this year, but apparently targeting the young 'clean' generation.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...r-of-californias-heat-is-a-real-killer_286630

Bet they get some real wonky results after yesterdays stage

Were Bontrager not livestrong trek last year? With a Merckx in charge seems like USADA have picked a good team to test.

 

[biokemguy]

Kinda my point, but TJVG wants us to believe in the young generation.

Didn't he say something about don't lose faith in us now, keeping with the mantra of "the cleaner peleton."

Glad to see USADA isn't buying it.

 

[maltiv]

Hopefully no innocent rider will get into trouble due to unstable blood values during this ToC...for once, even insanely plummeting HB values would be completely plausible due to the high risk of dehydration.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Hopefully no innocent rider will get into trouble due to unstable blood values during this ToC...for once, even insanely plummeting HB values would be completely plausible due to the high risk of dehydration.

As mentioned by JV1973 and the WADA docs, humans examine the test results, so it wouldn't necessarily trigger an AAF. That's assuming a positive was passed on. Which, they have managed to forget to do for Armstrong.

That's also assuming there were blood tests and urine tests. The last data I read had blood tests at a very low percentage of all tests.

 

[Zweistein]

Not sure if the USADA can be trusted.
It's like the Fox testing the Chickens.

You have to use some finesse when you troll. Otherwise, people will see you just as someone that failed at reading comprehension.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Don't read the Clinic as much as you can. This place makes me feel depressed about cyclng. Enjoy it for what it is, which is an entertaining, beautiful sport.

Your comment is ridiculous. Cycling is a dirty rotten pretender of sport where cheating, omerta and lack of integrity has denigrated every principle of equal opportunity for all riders. Pro cycling has perverted any reason to watch this ugly spectacle reminiscent of the Forum (The Roman One - not this blog). The word beautiful and pro cycling do not belong in the same sentence.

PS I just finished reading Seven Deadly Sins so my tolerance level for cycling as beautiful is at a new dispiriting low.

 

[masking_agent]

very good news for the likes of Andy Schleck, so he and his doctor(s) can fine tune and experiment his doses for his tour comeback

 

[Kender]

You have to use some finesse when you troll. Otherwise, people will see you just as someone that failed at reading comprehension.

heh way to quote a post from 2 years ago from an already banned troll poster

 

[Hugh Januss]

heh way to quote a post from 2 years ago from an already banned troll poster

To be fair, Polish's posts are timeless.

 

[Zweistein]

heh way to quote a post from 2 years ago from an already banned troll poster

I was too late. I could have saved him.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



I really am kind of sad that Polish was banned though. He was a lot better than most trolls.