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If Pogacar won the UAE Tour 4 times his fans would call it one of the “8” big stage races…
Yes, it was. But I can't find one person here saying SB is the 6th monument let alone a Pogacar fan.Big races can be won by lesser riders. Those are actually some of the coolest stories, that doesn't devalue a race that much.
Skjelmose winning Amstel was legit one of the highlights of the season
You've finally understood what they were debating in the Big6 thread and why Tony Martin and his time trials weren't considered enoughIf Pogacar won the UAE Tour 4 times his fans would call it one of the “8” big stage races…
For some decades FW was considered more important than Liège.amstel is the only non monument that is on the weekend with monument distance and has been in the highest category of one day races since the 70s
fleche , gw and obviously also strade were never part of the world cup . no other non monument world cup race has remained in the top echelon
thats the argument -- historic status over the past 50 years
Colbrelli 2021 was GOAT level. Dropped Pogacar on a small climb outside Trento. Streets won't forget that season
because it hasnt had that status at any time in the past 40 yearsFor some decades FW was considered more important than Liège.
I'm surprised that in a forum with so many Belgians there's so much ignorance regarding the historical importance of Fleche. For a time it was the most important classic in the Ardennes.
Obviously, if that was the case, it is clear that its historical importance was above that of Asmtel.
The prestige is directly related to how much of the giant vase of beer you chug on the podium
No sip: Del Toro level 1.1 race
Regular amount: WT level race
Chug half of it: Monument
Chug all of it: Greater than TdF
That's when he earned that Vuelta the honorable wayDoes it count if it is a different kind of alcoholic drink?
Can we say that Pogacar is more of a honourable winner in Amstel-Gold than Pidcock?That's when he earned that Vuelta the honorable way
Two completely different races, different topics tooYou've finally understood what they were debating in the Big6 thread and why Tony Martin and his time trials weren't considered enough. Now you considered because Remco wins them; if Tarling won them, he wouldn't be considered a Big 6 conntender, and obviously Remco is considered because of his other races, not just time trials.
You've understood that a cyclist winning it doesn't make it more important, and the time trial has never been decisive in those discussions.
As Pogacar fan it is obvious that Strade is the 6th monument.Let's be real.
The only people praising SB and calling it '6th Monument' are Pogacar fans.
I'm also his fan but I'm realistic.
SB is a preparation race.
Evenepoel could be full Fatco mode and still not be too heavy for Amstel
Yeah, wauw, nice to be so proud of that nickname which nobody else uses that you have it bookmarked.see here for first use : https://forum.cyclingnews.com/search/732843/?q=bambi&c[older_than]=2021-05-21&o=date
If Pogacar won the UAE Tour 4 times his fans would call it one of the “8” big stage races…
others have previously misrepresented where it stemmed from , so i learned to add the context some are ignorant ofYeah, wauw, nice to be so proud of that nickname which nobody else uses that you have it bookmarked.
Prior to this year Jorgenson rode a cobbled-races program, this year the focus is Ardennes. But no idea what his form is like now?Yesterday I was asked why I quoted Schmid ( his intervention was decisive), but Jorgenson has only been at Asmtel once, 2 years ago, and finished 37th.
Remco solo.
he comes straight from altitude, only left Tenerife two days ago. So a bit hit or miss, I guess.Prior to this year Jorgenson rode a cobbled-races program, this year the focus is Ardennes. But no idea what his form is like now?
Either Schmidt or Cosnefroy will be in the final selection (before Remco rides away). Schmidt did hefty yeoman work for Cosnefroy at Brabaconne, it might be reversed at Amstel.Cosnefroy should be there with Gregoire in the third row. Also, given what we saw yesterday, this race is too hard for TdG do be near the front. Del Toro maybe deserve some stars, but he is coming from a crash and even before he wasn't looking to hot in Basque.
its usually hit in the opening weekendhe comes straight from altitude, only left Tenerife two days ago. So a bit hit or miss, I guess.
Gregoire and Cosnefroy looked the best yesterday, but Amstel is so much longer (80 km more?) and hillier.yeah, will be tough to beat him. Healy was looking on track to have a shot, but now it probably needs a rather bad day from Evenepoel, and the race to somehow end up in a small sprint.
Gregoire could have a small chance to hang on, but I don't really see it either.
