Amstel Gold Race 2026, April 19

[Sciatic]

Cosnefroy clearly the best drinker of the podium trio

 

[canina82]

That's not how that came out at all. Just being straitforward. So much better than false humility.

Sorry, he really said this.

 

[red_flanders]

Remco has to turn in his Belgian card. Ridiculous display.

 

[Didinho]

Cosnefroy clearly the best drinker of the podium trio

The real winner today.

 

[Bertram Wooster]

some minor advantages.

Yes, minor advantages...

If 1 motor is in front, the cyclist wins this much seconds per minute (in ideal circumstances).
Sometimes there are more motorcycles in front.

0.48 m	-71%	48.9%	29.3 s
2.64 m	-48%	23.6%	14.1 s
4.8 m	-36%	15.6%	9.3 s
10 m	-23%	8.8%	5.3 s
15 m	-18%	6.7%	4.0 s
20 m	-15%	5.4%	3.3 s
30 m	-12%	4.2%	2.6 s
40 m	-10%	3.5%	2.1 s
50 m	-7%	2.4%	1.4 s

Fuglsang, Mollema, Del Grosso and several riders last week already said that motorcycles give big or decisive advantages.

 

[E_F_]

Remco has to turn in his Belgian card. Ridiculous display.

A true Belgian wouldn't touch that Dutch pisswasser either!

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

That's not how that came out at all. Just being straitforward. So much better than false humility.

You would be right if it weren't for the fact that others are called arrogant. There's a constant double standard applied to Remco, more lenient.

 

[red_flanders]

Fuglsang, Mollema, Del Grosso and several riders last week already said that motorcycles give big or decisive advantages.

Wait...what? Road cyclists were whining about something?

 

[red_flanders]

A true Belgian wouldn't touch that Dutch pisswasser either!

I stand corrected!

 

[red_flanders]

You're right, but others are called arrogant. There's a constant double standard applied to Remco, who's much more lenient.

Totally. No one has ever over-indexed on calling Remco arrogant.

 

[Sciatic]

Sorry, he really said this.

The interviewer asked him to rate this victory and he says I'm one of the one's lucky enough to win a lot, which of course makes it hard to place where this win fits with the others.

 

[red_flanders]

Nice, reasonable comments from Skjelmose.

 

[Karl Merckx]

"I'm one of the guys that wins a lot" - Evenepoel quote. If his legs were as greats as his mouth, this guy would have a better palmares than Merckx.

he's literally the guy with the most wins this year...

 

[Jagartrott]

You would be right if it weren't for the fact that others are called arrogant. There's a constant double standard applied to Remco, more lenient.

The guy won 74 times, among which monuments, world titles, olympic races and GT stages. What was he supposed to say?

 

[ice&fire]

A true Belgian wouldn't touch that Dutch pisswasser either!

Recalling the women's podium, not even the Dutch have a high appreciation for it.

 

[Bertram Wooster]

At 1 m, the advantage, as you pointed out, is a reduction in air resistance of 1.8%. Motorcycles are never 1 m behind riders, and as the relationship is exponential, the reduced drag from having cars or motorcycles behind you in a race is actually negligible.

You suggest you take a scientific stance, but you actually do not. (I am a scientist, by the way)

The reduction in air resistance at 1m from 1 motorcycle is 1,8%.
The reduction in air resistance from several motorcycles or cars is much bigger, even at 10m (till 9%).
I just saw several motors close behind the cyclists.

That's also why teamcars suddenly started to put 9 or 10 bikes on the team cars in ITT's.

(BTW, I think a true scientist wouldn't make a stance without reviewing the studies first.)

 

[Sciatic]

You would be right if it weren't for the fact that others are called arrogant. There's a constant double standard applied to Remco, more lenient.

Perhaps, I'm not trying to factor any comparisons in.

 

[canina82]

You do seem sorry about it. The interviewer asked him to rate this victory and he says I'm one of the one's lucky enough to win a lot, which of course makes it hard to place where this win fits with the others.

It was unnecessary IMO.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

That's not how that came out at all. Just being straitforward. So much better than false humility.

Yeah, I thought he was just being factual in that many riders never win a race, and many riders will actually say that winning a race is very difficult. So he's not wrong, and I didn't detect any kind of arrogance to it. It's actually the opposite because he considers himself lucky to have won so much.

 

[Sciatic]

(BTW, I think a true scientist wouldn't make a stance without reviewing the studies first.)

As it turns, this isn't a peer-reviewed academic journal, so we're good

 

[Unchained]

Today it's dignity; in other races, the rider who takis turns is insulted. Curious.

Delicate balance, if you start playing games and trying to dice each other up it gives the chase a chance, after Remco toasted the 3rd rider off his wheel, the chase was right there , instead of going conservative , the two worked together, as if practiced teammates, opened up a workable gap, then they started games momentarily.. You could see that Remco had better cadence, quiet upper body, face looked good, didn't have wide open mouth, no crazy breathing, totally relaxed, sitting down for almost last @7 kilometers, guy was on a mission. He had to see that Skjelmose was laboring, standing up to stay with pace, pushing way bigger gear, body was bouncing all over, he just looked @20% more worked over than oven fresh Remco .The Belgian had a danish for lunch,
Mattias Skjelmose raced great all day including the sprint which was respectable..If you are going to lose that's the way to do it..
I hope Juan Ayuso was watching from his sofa eating marshmallows in a fluffy bathrobe wearing pink or yellow bunny slippers, he saw what hard men race like.. Punishment not pampering..

 

[fox]

Sorry, he really said this.

no he did not. He said that he was fortunate to win quite a lot.

 

[Jagartrott]

The reduction in air resistance at 1m from 1 motorcycle is 1,8%.
The reduction in air resistance from several motorcycles or cars is much bigger, even at 10m (till 9%).
I just saw several motors close behind the cyclists.

That's also why teamcars suddenly started to put 9 or 10 bikes on the team cars in ITT's.

(BTW, I think a true scientist wouldn't make a stance without reviewing the studies first.)

You make an inane comment about motorbikes 1 m behind riders to make a point, while the distance is always (much) bigger. The fact that there are vehicles behind riders now and then is negligible, especially compared to other factors affecting air resistance. Of these other factors, motorcycles ahead of the riders are oftentimes not negligible, obviously.

 

[Brullnux]

Sorry, he really said this.

I don't really get what the issue is. When someone like Pogacar says 'everyone was looking at me to pull/attack', we all know why and what is unsaid (he wins a lot). He's saying the same thing just without the explicit words.

 

[canina82]

I don't really get what the issue is. When someone like Pogacar says 'everyone was looking at me to pull/attack', we all know why and what is unsaid (he wins a lot). He's saying the same thing just without the explicit words.

Too many arrogant quotes from him. Hard to have a different view when he talks like this quite often.