Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[shades1]

If he has rediscovered a love of the sport and competition then he will indeed gradually improve race to race. He has never shown a high base level and we certainly can't expect him to now.

Just don't bring in comparisons to prepping horses for races; classics or otherwise as you're obviously a complete novice there.

the comparison is not that different , you could use all sorts of sports and how they prepare for an upcoming season as examples , you dont just go all guns blazing in mediocre events when there are far more lucrative prizes further down the path .

just because im new here does not mean you have to come at me with the "novice" remark .

play nicely , we are all are entitled to our own views .

 

[will10]

Hence your 2000 posts about him

She doesn't care, that's why she follows him on twitter, and has the most posts of anyone in the Andy Schleck Discussion Thread.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't think Frank will get banned. I really don't think he doped.
End of story.

Unfortunately that's not the way things work.

She doesn't care, that's why she follows him on twitter, and has the most posts of anyone in the Andy Schleck Discussion Thread.

I don't follow him on twitter. I don't want to read his nonsense. I like my brain cells you know.

 

[LaFlorecita]

She doesn't care, that's why she follows him on twitter, and has the most posts of anyone in the Andy Schleck Discussion Thread.

User Name Posts
LaFlorecita 399 --> Alberto fan
airstream 277 --> Andy fan
Angliru 119 --> Alberto fan
The Hitch 98 --> Alberto fan
El Pistolero 97 --> Alberto fan
Forunculo 73 --> Alberto fan
Zam_Olyas 70 --> Random dude
Christian 62 --> Andy fan
Vino attacks everyone 57 --> Alberto fan
Afrank 47 --> Andy fan

 

[Walkman]

2000? No.

I don't care if he ever gets back to his old level I mean. Btw I think he's hilarious, always good for a laugh.

Then you and Andy has something in common.

Well, apart from the obvious. Defending doped riders.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Then you and Andy has something in common.

Well, apart from the obvious. Defending doped riders.

thanks man I see that as a compliment.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

I disagree there are other great cyclists who can take their place. Cycling doesn't "need" them. I want Alberto back to his best purely for personal reasons. I don't care about Andy.

You watched the Tour last year yes? Please name one other pro of the current generation who can light up the Mountains and aim for GC during the month of July like they do

 

[Carols]

the comparison is not that different , you could use all sorts of sports and how they prepare for an upcoming season as examples , you dont just go all guns blazing in mediocre events when there are far more lucrative prizes further down the path .

just because im new here does not mean you have to come at me with the "novice" remark .

play nicely , we are all are entitled to our own views .

You are obviously a novice about preparing race horses speaking as someone who bred and raced thoroughbreds. Just choose another sport where your comparison makes better sense .

I made no remarks about your knowledge of cycling or Andy Have fun on the boards!

 

[LaFlorecita]

You watched the Tour last year yes? Please name one other pro of the current generation who can light up the Mountains and aim for GC during the month of July like they do

Well there are a couple of them. Piti, Samu and some young guys. Last year's tour only sucked because of team sky's dominance. I think it could've been a good race if some good climbers like gesink and samu hadn't crashed.

 

[phanatic]

If he does then the team should aim for stage wins and forget about GC.

Andy's main strategy at the Tour should always be aiming at two or three specific stages, then just trying to limit time loss everywhere else.

 

[shades1]

You watched the Tour last year yes? Please name one other pro of the current generation who can light up the Mountains and aim for GC during the month of July like they do

i could not have said it better myself , i mean no disrespect to any of the other riders of the 2O12 TDF but it ended up a boring race , once wiggo crushed that first time trial the race may as well have ended there .

 

[Miburo]

i could not have said it better myself , i mean no disrespect to any of the other riders of the 2O12 TDF but it ended up a boring race , once wiggo crushed that first time trial the race may as well have ended there .

The race should have never begun in the first place

Plance des belles filles was just crushing to watch...

Whoever didn't want andy and Contador in the race at that point must have been a sky-fan.

 

[LaFlorecita]

i could not have said it better myself , i mean no disrespect to any of the other riders of the 2O12 TDF but it ended up a boring race , once wiggo crushed that first time trial the race may as well have ended there .

but was that just because Alberto and Andy weren't there? or also because guys like Sanchez, piti etc crashed or weren't in good shape and couldn't attack in the mountains.

Cycling doesn't need Andy and Alberto, it needs good climbers.

 

[ferryman]

but was that just because Alberto and Andy weren't there? or also because guys like Sanchez, piti etc crashed or weren't in good shape and couldn't attack in the mountains.

Cycling doesn't need Andy and Alberto, it needs good climbers.

What mountains That said, from what there were, a fit Andy would have meant Wiggins did not win Yellow. A fit Andy and Bertie would probably have meant Bertie got Yellow. But hey ho, speculation.

I like what I'm hearing from Andy so far. I just really hope he keeps it up. We are going to need him at 100% to make it a race in July.

 

[shades1]

but was that just because Alberto and Andy weren't there? or also because guys like Sanchez, piti etc crashed or weren't in good shape and couldn't attack in the mountains.

Cycling doesn't need Andy and Alberto, it needs good climbers.

i personally believe its cos they were not there , sanchez , piti etc are all quality riders but contador and shcleck are on a entirely different level in the mountains if they are fit . i understand time moves on and eventually the new breed will come through but if the year away has not done too much damage then i believe you will see the class difference again when it matters most .

2010/11 TDFs might seem ages ago to a lot of people but it was only 2010 andy was the best YOUNG rider so its just crazy to think his day has been and gone .



just watch some of the crucial mountain stages on youtube of these two years . ok he lost a lot of time back in the final Ks but what he did on the galibier was a masterclass and when they both went head to head up the col du tourmalet the year before that really shows the gap between good and great climbers .

a lot of all these up and coming climbers that get mentioned on here have been around as long or longer than andy , maybe not piti or nibali but i dont rate the latter anyway {just my opinion} .

for some it may be ancient history but it really isnt because its more or less the same riders apart from a few young pretenders .

watch the clip , then 2/5 + 3/5 :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL8dkc3rgl4

they are on a different level guys !!

 

[LaFlorecita]

I agree that Alberto and Andy would've completely changed the 2012 TDF but I don't think it's fair to say cycling "needs" them.

 

[ferryman]

I agree that Alberto and Andy would've completely changed the 2012 TDF but I don't think it's fair to say cycling "needs" them.

Agreed, if you are happy to see another Sky metrenome season.

 

[Forunculo]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...shocking-stage-6/story-fngr0c3f-1226562933685

 

[Afrank]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...shocking-stage-6/story-fngr0c3f-1226562933685

Sounds like he was angry about his chain problem and being unable to rejoin. I'll wait to hear what he says on the matter before vilifying him for it, like some on here are bound to do no matter what.

 

[Tigerion]

Sounds like he was angry about his chain problem and being unable to rejoin. I'll wait to hear what he says on the matter before vilifying him for it, like some on here are bound to do no matter what.

Does that mean he was actually a DNF or did he leave as soon as he finished. Was it too much to cross the line and get me my 5 cq points

 

[Afrank]

Does that mean he was actually a DNF or did he leave as soon as he finished. Was it too much to cross the line and get me my 5 cq points

Don't worry, you'll get plenty of CQ points when he wins the Tour.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Sounds like he was angry about his chain problem and being unable to rejoin. I'll wait to hear what he says on the matter before vilifying him for it, like some on here are bound to do no matter what.

To just abandon after a chain problem is still not good enough imo

 

[PCutter]

He had the mechanical early, he was no chance of getting back on given the speed the peloton was going, and was likely to get lapped given his TT prowess which means he would have been pulled from the race. When he pulled out he's a DNF and therefore shouldn't be part of the podium presentation

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Agreed, if you are happy to see another Sky metrenome season.

Yea I would soooo like that.

Cycling doesn't need a specific rider. If Andy and Alberto fail to deliver there will be others to take their place. Maybe not this year but definitely in the next few years.

 

[ILovecycling]

Yea I would soooo like that.

Cycling doesn't need a specific rider. If Andy and Alberto fail to deliver there will be others to take their place. Maybe not this year but definitely in the next few years.

I dont agree.Cycling/fans need them because they make races/Tour gripping and exceptional.Maybe Chris is interesting rider too,I hope he will attack with or without them... But sort of Evans,Wiggins,VDB attack are sooo soo boring