Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[Ryo Hazuki]

How about attacking everybody from 60k out and winning on Galibier?

Or showing himself to be the only guy in the race that could go head to head with Contador?

There's plenty to like about him if you look. When he's on form in a race he is targeting he's one of the biggest animators of the race, a lot of the time the biggest animator. I like that about him.

show me one more attack like that of him. besides he had to because he lost so much in itt.

 

[Alpechraxler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Wvlmr-N6w

 

[Afrank]

show me one more attack like that of him. besides he had to because he lost so much in itt.

Where did I say he does those kind of attacks all the time? These kind of attacks are rare in cycling. But it was one of the best performances I have seen. The fact that he was losing the race when he decided to take the risk and attack from so far out IMHO makes it even more epic and heroic.

Edit: And he does have a penchant for attacking from further out than a rider normally would, as Alpechraxler and The Blues point out.

 

[The Blues]

He also attacked far out in the '09 LBL and on some mountain stages of the '10 TdF; he did not drop Contador (though he did drop everybody else), but it still counts.

It is not of the Galibier-level, but those attacks are, as other say, very rare.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

When will he announce his retirement?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I somehow believe the lazy part of Andy and not the supposed health problems. Weird huh....

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He also attacked far out in the '09 LBL and on some mountain stages of the '10 TdF; he did not drop Contador (though he did drop everybody else), but it still counts.

It is not of the Galibier-level, but those attacks are, as other say, very rare.

far out being 20 km? and he never attacked from far in tour 2010. in fact tour 2010 was his most pathetic performance with his sur plas

 

[The Blues]

He attacked almost 40 km from the finish line in stage 9 of that TdF. Yes, it was after Navarro's work for Contador, but he went straight on the attack there, and yes, it finished after a quite long descent, but that does not change anything in this matter.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He attacked almost 40 km from the finish line in stage 9 of that TdF. Yes, it was after Navarro's work for Contador, but he went straight on the attack there, and yes, it finished after a quite long descent, but that does not change anything in this matter.

of course it does

 

[The Blues]

Well, I see your point - no doubt, but we were discussing whether he "often" attacks far out and therefore the important thing was how far out he attacked.

By the way, I am not saying he throws long-distance attacks around all the time, but when in top form he tends to attack a little further out than many other GC-contenders.

 

[ferryman]

far out being 20 km? and he never attacked from far in tour 2010. in fact tour 2010 was his most pathetic performance with his sur plas

Do we see a lot of 20Km attacks for the win in LBL often by one of the marked favourites? TDF 2010 was disappointing, frustrating but far from pathetic. Keep it real eh.

 

[Carols]

because there is nothing to like about Andy

Flo you should want Andy back for the simple reason that he could help destroy the Sky train if at his best. Alberto could profit from an on form Andy! You don't have to like him, just let Alberto use him.

 

[ferryman]

Well, I see your point - no doubt, but we were discussing whether he "often" attacks far out and therefore the important thing was how far out he attacked.

By the way, I am not saying he throws long-distance attacks around all the time, but when in top form he tends to attack a little further out than many other GC-contenders.

Don't let Ryo bully you.

 

[ferryman]

Flo you should want Andy back for the simple reason that he could help destroy the Sky train if at his best. Alberto could profit from an on form Andy! You don't have to like him, just let Alberto use him.

Do you really think that Sky will try and set up a train to burn of Bertie and Andy with the teams they both will be bringing? Their funeral.

 

[Carols]

Do you really think that Sky will try and set up a train to burn of Bertie and Andy with the teams they both will be bringing? Their funeral.

I don't think Sky has a plan other than Plan A = Train. So far they haven't shown the ability to make adjustments in a race. Maybe tactics will be different with Froome leading instead of Wiggo.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I don't think Sky has a plan other than Plan A = Train. So far they haven't shown the ability to make adjustments in a race. Maybe tactics will be different with Froome leading instead of Wiggo.

I don't think the tactics will be different. Its like a robot. Drive the train forward, shell as many as possible. Continue next day.

 

[ferryman]

I don't think the tactics will be different. Its like a robot. Drive the train forward, shell as many as possible. Continue next day.

They may try this but it would be so unwise against the big two. If Andy is at all fit, and unlike many others on here, I fully expect him to be, Sky will only be putting Froome in an exposed position against them and their teams. The Vuelta should be ringing alarm bells for this tactiic.

 

[Carols]

They may try this but it would be so unwise against the big two. If Andy is at all fit, and unlike many others on here, I fully expect him to be, Sky will only be putting Froome in an exposed position against them and their teams. The Vuelta should be ringing alarm bells for this tactiic.

Vuelta should be ringing bells but I saw no change in ORR or WRR. They think they can burn anyone off. Well that worked with Nibali, JVDB and Evans. It won't work with Andy and Alberto especially if they go together! If Froome goes with them he will be isolated against the 2 best climbers in the world. Flo that is why you should wish good things for Andy if for no other reason

 

[Dazed and Confused]

They may try this but it would be so unwise against the big two. If Andy is at all fit, and unlike many others on here, I fully expect him to be, Sky will only be putting Froome in an exposed position against them and their teams. The Vuelta should be ringing alarm bells for this tactiic.

The Vuelta meant nothing for Frooooome. He is after the big price. However I do concur Contador and Schleck will provide more than enough competition.

 

[hfer07]

Andy's current situation is even worse than I have ever thought- just the fact that his very own DS is calling him out in public to acknowledge the lack of motivation & fitness to even "ride & train"-let alone compete- damn he's in deep sh!t indeed.....

 

[greenedge]

Has some stuff on Andy
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/Domestique Bliss/blog/127426/in-with-the-in-crowd

 

[Publicus]

Andy's current situation is even worse than I have ever thought- just the fact that his very own DS is calling him out in public to acknowledge the lack of motivation & fitness to even "ride & train"-let alone compete- damn he's in deep sh!t indeed.....

This +10000

 

[Carols]

What to believe???

Out of shape and unmotivated
Sick
Hissy fit

From the link above:

But get this - I texted Edvald Boasson Hagen to see what the real story was and he told me that Schleck wasn't sick at all in France. Apparently he just needs some more miles in his legs before he hits good form and the other guys in the peloton were teasing him about how he couldn't take a turn up the front. They ended calling him Frank all day and he pretty much chucked a massive hissy fit and quit the race. I love being 'in' with the top pros and getting all the gossip.

 

[Publicus]

Has some stuff on Andy
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/Domestique Bliss/blog/127426/in-with-the-in-crowd

Great read!

 

[Afrank]

What to believe???

Out of shape and unmotivated
Sick
Hissy fit

But get this - I texted Edvald Boasson Hagen to see what the real story was and he told me that Schleck wasn't sick at all in France. Apparently he just needs some more miles in his legs before he hits good form and the other guys in the peloton were teasing him about how he couldn't take a turn up the front. They ended calling him Frank all day and he pretty much chucked a massive hissy fit and quit the race. I love being 'in' with the top pros and getting all the gossip.

From the link above:

The key to that paragraph is the last word.
Also a real jerk move by the guys in the peloton teasing him. I wish I knew which riders were doing that, I'd never be cheering for them again.