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LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

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VeloCity said:
I don't know if you usually do or not, but you were about Andy and Alberto re: the "always racing to win" "races year round" etc. Clearly that's not true - Alberto does not always race to win nor does he race year-round, while Andy races more than just the 3 weeks in July.
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As I said, I always make **** up just to make Alberto look better.

Yes, so there's no need to be making up stuff just to puff up Alberto and put down Andy.
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Yeah I'm sorry I just can't ignore people saying Andy is just as awesome/more awesome than Alberto.

Edit: Oops, forgot, Andy is more awesome than Alberto.
 
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washoezephyr1

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Sad state of fitness and motivation for A/S. He should of gotten on his road bike and rode in today and then complete the race.

Seriously though can anyone stop Wiggo over the next two months?
 
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washoezephyr1 said:
Sad state of fitness and motivation for A/S. He should of gotten on his road bike and rode in today and then complete the race.

Seriously though can anyone stop Wiggo over the next two months?
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Yes. The critical test is over a month away. Wiggins may be peaked too early.
 
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Andy Schleck and Alberto Contador are both great, just different riders???:eek: Are y'all stoned, or what? Andy's record......
You call this GREAT??: 2011- ONE stage win at the TdF and coming in 2nd after miserable failure of strategy and performance on the penultimate days ITT. (BTW that's it for 2011, results wise)
2010- 2 stage wins at the TdF then handed the title that he DID NOT WIN on the road. Luxembourg ITT champ.... oh and oops! That's it for 2010 Wow! Great year.
2009-Probably the best year of his career so far- a year that showed "potential"
Luxembourg Road Champ, 1st Liege-Bastogne-Liege, won one stage of the Tour of Luxembourg, 2nd overall at the TdF, along with 1st in the young rider category.
2008- TdF Young rider-1st, 12th overall. 1 stage win in the Tour of Poland
2007-2nd overall at the Giro, and 1st young rider at the Giro(which put him on the map)
Is that GREATNESS???
Compare this to Alberto's palmares, and YES they sure are "different" riders.
2011- Alberto is stripped of his Giro D'Italia title that he won convincingly, along with the 6th place at the TdF, and some other results......but I digress.
2010-Oops, stripped him of his Tour de France victory, and GAVE it to the Great Andy Schleck. But before that debacle Alberto took the titles at Paris-Nice along with 1 stage win. And he took the Volta Algarve with 1 stage win, and the Vuelta Castilla y Leon with 1 stage win(ITT).
2009-He was the Spanish ITT Champ, He won the TdF, most notably taking 2 stage victories, and beating his own team, and Lance Armstrong, along with Schleck and the rest of the free world! And that after, he had taken the Volta Algarve(+1), and Pais Vasco(+2) titles along with stage wins in both and finishing 4th in Paris-Nice with 2 stage victories.
2008-Took the Giro title with one weeks notice that Astana had been invited (Are you listening, Frank?) and took 2 stages too. Won the Vuelta a Espana and took 2 stages. Also was 4th in the ITT at the Beijing Olympics, and took Castilla y Leon with 2 stage wins, and the Pais Vasco title with 2 stage wins.
2007 saw him take Castilla y Leon + 1 stage win, And The Paris- Nice title 2 stage wins and the Young rider jersey, Along with winning his first TOUR DE FRANCE title, along with the best young riders jersey, and 1 stage win.
DIFFERENT riders? You bet your bootie they are different riders. Alberto is a champion. Andy is an overrated, babied, cutie boy, that seems limited to one target a year. And he's yet to take a big one, on the road. He knows it and all his fans know it too, whether they want to admit it or not. The records do the talking. I've just put it on the table. chew on that a little.
 
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washoezephyr1

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Injury free, Wiggons has to be the favorite for the tour, The Olympics will be a crap shoot. Andy might as well use this years TDF to train for the Vuelta and see if he can match A/C, otherwise write the season off.

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Yes. The critical test is over a month away. Wiggins may be peaked too early.
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B_Ugli said:
Andy Schleck won't win a tour. The lad has delusions of grandeur, an ego bigger than his actual achievements and increasingly comes across as a big head. That is why people dont like him.

OK he and his brother look good on a bike but that is where it ends.

Most riders have a "time" when they can win the Tour and his "time" is now.

Other younger riders are now coming through who want it more than him and a certain Mr Contador will be returning to the peleton. His "time" will pass never to return. Such is his mindset that I dont reckon he will even question what could have been when looking back on his time as a Pro.
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Two points:
1) This TDF can't be won by Andy. Too much TTing. I don't know if this is playing into his prep, but he certainly doesn't seem to be taking things seriously. At best he'll win a mountain stage. This is certainly still more prestigious than say winning a stage in a mediocre small tour, or even winning some of the lesser stage races. Most riders would kill to win a tour stage.
2) Andy did win a Tour - he is the official winner of 2010.
 
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hope he's fine,i've heard he crashed...he still is one of the very few people who can stop the uk postal dominating the race in a fashion more extreme than their american brothers from the 00's.
that would be andy,rolland and cobo.
 
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Cervelo77 said:
Two points:
1) This TDF can't be won by Andy. Too much TTing. I don't know if this is playing into his prep, but he certainly doesn't seem to be taking things seriously. At best he'll win a mountain stage. This is certainly still more prestigious than say winning a stage in a mediocre small tour, or even winning some of the lesser stage races. Most riders would kill to win a tour stage.
2) Andy did win a Tour - he is the official winner of 2010.
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Keep deluding yourself, you're doing a good job.:cool:
 
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webbie146

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What odd thing to say:

“What can I say? **** happens. If you crash alone in a time trial, it’s even more frustrating because you can’t blame anyone for that.”

Blame?
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Who wrote that?

Edit: found it in the interview.
 
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Are Algarve and Oman major stage races???? How about showing his face in the heat of battle in Paris-Nice, Dauphine, Tour de Swiss, Pays Basque or Catalonia? We've got 2 different directors that have worked with Andy who question his motivation and one who he himself has said is part of the reason for many of his successes that questions his current excuse for lack of form. How many signs do you need?
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No, but by contradicting Contador you often remember this idiotic Algarve. These races don't suit him. Besides, it's difficult for the Tour champion to motivate himself for fighting for top-5 in Basque or Catalonia. His lack of consequence of circumstances rather than willingness/unwillingness to compete in one week races

He's certainly put a spell on you.

For every reason you give for your support of him and really I believe the strongest IMO is that you just can't stand to see him criticized here by such a large percentage of the cn forum, there are at least 4 opposing reasons why he gets so much criticism. Even his chosen ds and close friend has poo-poo'd his excuse for his lack of form and results for this season. Who would've thought that Kim Anderson would not toe the Schleck company line and question Andy's excuse? I'm seriously curious to hear your opinion on that and what you think Andy's response will be to Anderson's statement.
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No, I treat this patiently. I'm just all for respectful and appropriate attitude towards all riders. But it definetely doesn't work here cos a rider often becomes an subject of snides and blinded hatred. Well, no problem, initially one was born with it or without it. Only Tour will show where Andy is at the moment. I'm not interested in all hidden agendas too much because we know about nothing.

LaFlorecita said:
And what makes you think I'm proud of being a hater?
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Because otherwise a sensible person doesn't tell such a thing.
 
LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

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airstream said:
No, but by contradicting Contador you often remember this idiotic Algarve. These races don't suit him. Besides, it's difficult for the Tour champion to motivate himself for fighting for top-5 in Basque or Catalonia. His lack of consequence of circumstances rather than willingness/unwillingness to compete in one week races
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Funny. Your attitude is exactly the same as Andy's. That's probably why you're a fan.

Maybe a fan's character is really close to the character of the rider they're a fan of. In that case I'm even more proud to be a Alberto fangirl.
 
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mr. tibbs said:
Given how the Dauphine is going, I'm starting to think Andy might not finish the Tour, let alone win it or podium. For a rider with his ability, this has been an unreal season.
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His head is not there. Not handling the pressure of expectation very well. He appears scared. With each non-performance it adds more pressure. Contador not riding was the worst thing that could have happened to him. He likes being number 2.
 
will10

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Publicus said:
I don't think it was the disc wheel at all. How many other riders also had a disc wheel and didn't crash? From what I can tell from the photos, all of them.
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The rear wheel has very little effect on handling anyway. The front wheel is key.
 
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