Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[Midnightfright]

Yeah, I guess 5th place overall is better than a stage win.

Andy took off early and the only one who wanted to chase at all was Cadel. Of course Frank wouldn't work, but what about the others?

It's obvious that friends and countrymen tend to help each other out more than they help others (eg. Alberto and Sammy). Maybe it's not exactly front of mind - "I won't help him because he's not from the same continent/country/region/town/village as me" - but it may in a small way factor into how hard you're willing to hurt yourself to help someone else out. It's called empathy and it's more likely to occur between people with similar backgrounds.

its his and yellow jersey responsibility to Chase, he tried to get assistance but it just wasn't going to happen. You still haven't explained to me why excatly all the guys on the edge would blow any chance if a good position by chasing to early? If they could they would. Ofcourse there are small allegiances but that's cycling regardless of friendship between Samu and Albie the last few days assistance can be explained purely from a situation standpoint. With regards to Cunego do u really think he could of won yesterdays stage? I think by that point he will of been aware of his limitations aswell.

 

[Anonymous]

Are you guys serious

 

[top_tenz_finish]

Yeah, I guess 5th place overall is better than a stage win.

Andy took off early and the only one who wanted to chase at all was Cadel. Of course Frank wouldn't work, but what about the others?

It's obvious that friends and countrymen tend to help each other out more than they help others (eg. Alberto and Sammy). Maybe it's not exactly front of mind - "I won't help him because he's not from the same continent/country/region/town/village as me" - but it may in a small way factor into how hard you're willing to hurt yourself to help someone else out. It's called empathy and it's more likely to occur between people with similar backgrounds.

What absolute rubbish.... If they can get Evans to blow up and crack then why wouldn't they? Obviously the would only want this because they hate Aussies/White people/Dog lovers/Someone who buys Vegemite over Marmite.

Not at all due to the fact that he was in probably pole position going in to the day. Shleck, they thought and hoped, would blow himself up and with Evans intent on doing the work, they thought he would do it too. 2 for the price of 1, sounds like a good deal doesn't it?

 

[LongSprint]

its his and yellow jersey responsibility to Chase, he tried to get assistance but it just wasn't going to happen. You still haven't explained to me why excatly all the guys on the edge would blow any chance if a good position by chasing to early? If they could they would. Ofcourse there are small allegiances but that's cycling regardless of friendship between Samu and Albie the last few days assistance can be explained purely from a situation standpoint. With regards to Cunego do u really think he could of won yesterdays stage? I think by that point he will of been aware of his limitations aswell.

Ok, you obviously know exactly how each of them was feeling during the stage.

 

[Archibald]

before this stage I commented that i thought Andy was waiting to try and land that one killer blow. That he'd try to win the Tour in one shot.
And here he goes and does it.

a great ride, but it doesn't change my view of him and his behaviour this tour

Will be interesting to see what's left in the tank after that incredible ride or whether the 57seconds will be it for the TT.

 

[Grand Tourist]

Fine ride but I'm not sure he's done enough. He needed 5 minutes & got 2.

 

[595RED]

Andy talks with his legs

I much prefer it when the young Luxembourger talks with his legs rather than opening his mouth. Wicked performance built on the stuff we remember the best tours for. Chiapucci Sestries 92. Awesome Andy.

 

[Midnightfright]

Ok, you obviously know exactly how each of them was feeling during the stage.

I'm not pretending I do. Even if you think that's wearing claiming all I'm saying is I think if they could of helped they would. Your claim is that they never helped because they are pro euro that must if been why everyone cheered and high-fived when they stopped Uran.

 

[Midnightfright]

Ok, you obviously know exactly how each of them was feeling during the stage.

I'm not pretending I do. Even if you think that's wearing claiming all I'm saying is I think if they could of helped they would. Your claim is that they never helped because they are pro euro that must if been why everyone cheered and high-fived when they stopped Uran.

 

[phanatic]

CN reports that Eddy Merckx recommends the 2012 Giro to Andy Schleck. I wish.

 

[airstream]

Bruyneel evaluates chances of Andy's the Giro participation as 50%. The final decision is planned to adopt in December.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Bruyneel evaluates chances of Andy's the Giro participation as 50%. The final decision is planned to adopt in December.

I sincerely hope he rides the Giro next year

 

[The Hitch]

Good to see the great man say that. Eddy says some stupid things but he is 100% right. 1st in Giro >2nd in Tour.

It would be good to see Andy get that GT win though Basso Scarponi and Rujano will hopefully push him for it.

Still, hes not going to lose too much tt time to these guys, and on the climbs you have to believe hell beat them.

Would be good to see Andy bring his epic Izoard Galibier attack into Mortirolo Stelvio.

 

[Kvinto]

i would really like to see Andy in Giro, but if he wants to win a GT he should do the Vuelta first, the next Giro will be won by Michele Scarponi

 

[theyoungest]

Bruyneel evaluates chances of Andy's the Giro participation as 50%. The final decision is planned to adopt in December.

Yeah right. Fifty percent. I think I know what the decision will be.

Could there possibly be a DS who cares less about the Giro than Bruyneel?

 

[The Hitch]

Yeah right. Fifty percent. I think I know what the decision will be.

Could there possibly be a DS who cares less about the Giro than Bruyneel?

Stapleton. Pinnoti and Cav do the Giro because they want to but Stapleton would have them ride Cali if he could .

Also Bailsford. Well last 2 years but he might be sending some good riders there this year seeing the team he has.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Yeah right. Fifty percent. I think I know what the decision will be.

Could there possibly be a DS who cares less about the Giro than Bruyneel?

If Lance was an DS i would imagine

 

[theyoungest]

Stapleton. Pinnoti and Cav do the Giro because they want to but Stapleton would have them ride Cali if he could .

Also Bailsford. Well last 2 years but he might be sending some good riders there this year seeing the team he has.

Brailsford sent Bradley the Great there last year!

 

[The Hitch]

Brailsford sent Bradley the Great there last year!

Wiggins sent himself because he thought it was good training.

 

[Christian]

Bruyneel evaluates chances of Andy's the Giro participation as 50%. The final decision is planned to adopt in December.

Where did you find this?

I think it is quite unlikely for several reasons. Captainship has been promised to Fuglsang, it's probably the only reason he stayed with the team. Even if he is only the 5th or 6th best GTGC rider on the team (in random order: Andy, Fränk, Klöden, Monfort, possibly Horner), they might respect it. Plus it starts in Denmark and all. On the other hand Becca & Co are not known to keep promises very much. Also it would mess with Andy's whole Ardennes preparation, he would probably have to miss them or ride them in support of another rider. Zaugg maybe??

It would be nice though!

 

[Christian]

Wiggins sent himself because he thought it was good training.

He went because Lance went, I think he admitted to it after the season was over. Sometimes they would consider sending him to smaller races but then dismiss it because "Lance wouldn't do that"

 

[The Hitch]

He went because Lance went, I think he admitted to it after the season was over. Sometimes they would consider sending him to smaller races but then dismiss it because "Lance wouldn't do that"

That may have been true when he was with Garmin in 09 but we are talking about when he was with Sky and did the Giro which was 2010 and Lance never did it that year.

 

[roundabout]

Fuglsang can ride the Tour. It's more suited to him than the Giro IMO. Ok he won't be the sole leader but I would think he can live with it.

Also he would have more options in the Ardennes.

 

[airstream]

Where did you find this?

I think it is quite unlikely for several reasons. Captainship has been promised to Fuglsang, it's probably the only reason he stayed with the team. Even if he is only the 5th or 6th best GTGC rider on the team (in random order: Andy, Fränk, Klöden, Monfort, possibly Horner), they might respect it. Plus it starts in Denmark and all. On the other hand Becca & Co are not known to keep promises very much. Also it would mess with Andy's whole Ardennes preparation, he would probably have to miss them or ride them in support of another rider. Zaugg maybe??
It would be nice though!

On velolive.com, russian cycling site, though apparently a primary source of it is Gazzetta Dello Sport. Everyone faces up to Fuglsang GC chances. I don't believe Andy to do the Giro either. They will fairly expect up to the verdict on Contador's case.

 

[Parrulo]

ya andy should ride the giro

and machado the tour ofc