Armstrong investigated for criminal charges in Spain?

[Fortyninefourteen]

Your licking your lips no doubt. The concept of mercy is beyond you. It's all about the money as it's always been though out time.

ABC ignores the more important news with a scapegoat. Sideshow Bob journalism. The day is not too far when Armstrong will tell all I hope, and those who made him, as he did himself, will be revealed.

"Take the straight path. Turn neither to the left or the right."

Mercy? .....maybe he could have shown some mercy on the endless list of people he crushed and reamed over the years.

Still not too late to make amends, but doing that is not in the current Playbook 3.0 " The Making of the Next Bill Clinton".

Mercy. Funny...

 

[Benotti69]

I wonder are the Spanish going after Armstrong to deflect from their own. Now that would be appalling and unfair, a lot like Armstrong.

 

[will10]

You really would feel stiffed about getting banged up in Spain on PED charges.

It's a supermarket!

It's a bit like getting stopped doing 75 on the motorway. There's a few guys doing 70, but there's a fair few guys doing 73, a lot of guys doing 80 and a few guys doing more.

 

[Race Radio]

I wonder are the Spanish going after Armstrong to deflect from their own. Now that would be appalling and unfair, a lot like Armstrong.

It appears they will be going after everyone

The director of the Spanish Anti-doping Agency (AEA), Ana Munoz, did say in her first TV interview: "On the day the trial ends me personally, I will go and ask the judge to give me all the documents, proves, as well as all the blood bags. And then, we will undertake every action to find and identify the athletes and sports involved in the Fuentes case."

Note that Fuentes, and his buddies, are Spanish and are currently on trial. It would be odd if they were prosecuted but del Moral, Bruyneel, Marti etc were not

 

[D-Queued]

It appears they will be going after everyone



Note that Fuentes, and his buddies, are Spanish and are currently on trial. It would be odd if they were prosecuted but del Moral, Bruyneel, Marti etc were not

Might encourage some of the known players with deposits on hand to offer their services as witnesses for the state against the more notorious traffickers and enablers.

Just being optimistic.

Dave.

 

[Oldman]

It appears they will be going after everyone



Note that Fuentes, and his buddies, are Spanish and are currently on trial. It would be odd if they were prosecuted but del Moral, Bruyneel, Marti etc were not

I would agree that the Spanish Inquisition may be so much deflection from larger issues. Armstrong emerging as a "scapegoat" is still so much bullsh*t and anyone that raises that as a justification for "mercy" is knee deep in it.
I still contend that this is the gateway for prosecution of very deeply rooted drug networks. You have the Spanish noting several of these doctors are still working on State funded projects. Can they ignore drug dealers profitting off of State money while the economy is wrecked? Not politically I would think.
Meanwhile; evidence builds for countries with the actual mandate to prosecute and Lance is still the posterchild for large scams. He can't apologize or wish that away; even if he fattened up to look like Bill Clinton or started dating women resembling Hillary.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Media speculation

That is actually standard language when opening or running any investigation. A crime may have occurred, and the investigation is being conducted to determine whether it has occurred or not.

When the appropriate Spanish authorities says they are actually conducting a criminal investigation into LA I will believe it. "Media sources" don't do it for me! Surely as a media pundit and administrator you grasp this fundamental truism!

What has happened is the media have spun Ms. Munoz's comments into an assumption there is an investigation. Even your own media story says it best "There is a criminal investigation of Lance Armstrong underway in Spain, according to media reports.

 

[gooner]

When the appropriate Spanish authorities says they are actually conducting a criminal investigation into LA I will believe it. "Media sources" don't do it for me! Surely as a media pundit and administrator you grasp this fundamental truism!

What has happened is the media have spun Ms. Munoz's comments into an assumption there is an investigation. Even your own media story says it best "There is a criminal investigation of Lance Armstrong underway in Spain, according to media reports.

This isn't just sources in Spain saying it, but the US also. Just check Neal Karlinsky's piece on ABC where he says that very exact thing. With this being the case it does point to the story carrying some weight indeed.

 

[D-Queued]

A Spanish Inquisition?

Justice is served.

Lance may finally get his wish for a witch hunt.

Dave.

 

[Northern rider]

I bet Lance never expected a spanish inquisition. He'll have to beware the comfy chairs.

 

[Race Radio]

When the appropriate Spanish authorities says they are actually conducting a criminal investigation into LA I will believe it. "Media sources" don't do it for me! Surely as a media pundit and administrator you grasp this fundamental truism!

What has happened is the media have spun Ms. Munoz's comments into an assumption there is an investigation. Even your own media story says it best "There is a criminal investigation of Lance Armstrong underway in Spain, according to media reports.

Neal is one of the best connected reports on this subject out there. Several others reporters have confirmed his sources., including ARD

There is an investigation.

 

[Benotti69]

Neal is one of the best connected reports on this subject out there. Several others reporters have confirmed his sources., including ARD

There is an investigation.

The way the Spanish have gone about their investigations into doping in sport I dont have much hope, but the negative press is something to add to a tall pile of *** hanging over Armstrong, tailwind and all those involved.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

When the appropriate Spanish authorities says they are actually conducting a criminal investigation into LA I will believe it. "Media sources" don't do it for me! Surely as a media pundit and administrator you grasp this fundamental truism!

What has happened is the media have spun Ms. Munoz's comments into an assumption there is an investigation. Even your own media story says it best "There is a criminal investigation of Lance Armstrong underway in Spain, according to media reports.

Just a small point - the Anti-doping Agency has NO jurisdiction on CRIMINAL investigations. It will most likely be in the hands of the Guardia Civil, or possibly the Policia Nacionál.
The Fuentes investigation was run by the Guardia Civil.

 

[ggusta]

In the back of my mind, I have to wonder if perhaps Armstrong's well documented, public and very classless treatment of a Spanish national hero in 2009 may have left a lingering taste that serves as just a little extra fuel for some interested investigators. Just a thought. Certainly not theorizing that it is a primary factor at all. Just a little extra performance enhancing fuel .

 

[Clausfarre]

The fact that he made his half-hearted admission still doesn't mean that he isn't still very much lawyered up and based on previous legal battles I think he will fight to the end. I don't think he will lose that much of his fortune as a result of the myriad of cases that surround him. He is good at deflecting and the courtroom is where he knows what to say and what to exclude.

 

[D-Queued]

The fact that he made his half-hearted admission still doesn't mean that he isn't still very much lawyered up and based on previous legal battles I think he will fight to the end. I don't think he will lose that much of his fortune as a result of the myriad of cases that surround him. He is good at deflecting and the courtroom is where he knows what to say and what to exclude.

LMFAO

Dave.

 

[Race Radio]

Just a small point - the Anti-doping Agency has NO jurisdiction on CRIMINAL investigations. It will most likely be in the hands of the Guardia Civil, or possibly the Policia Nacionál.
The Fuentes investigation was run by the Guardia Civil.

Not exactly. Some ADA's are state actors. CONI, AFLD, for example. In the US it is not possible but in many European countries it is possible

 

[GreasyMonkey]

Not exactly. Some ADA's are state actors. CONI, AFLD, for example. In the US it is not possible but in many European countries it is possible

From speaking with people here (Madrid) who are coversant with Spanish Law, charges of trafficking and distribution of PED's (or any drug) comes under the jurisdiction of Guardia Civil or Polica Nacionál, not the Spanish ADA.

Maybe Hrotha or other Spanish nationals could offer his understanding of the situation here in Spain, as I am not a Spanish national, nor a fluent spanish-speaker.

 

[Race Radio]

From speaking with people here (Madrid) who are coversant with Spanish Law, charges of trafficking and distribution of PED's (or any drug) comes under the jurisdiction of Guardia Civil or Polica Nacionál, not the Spanish ADA.

Maybe Hrotha or other Spanish nationals could offer his understanding of the situation here in Spain, as I am not a Spanish national, nor a fluent spanish-speaker.

Oh, I agree but the it is possible for an ADA to play a much larger role then they can here in the US. It would not be unlike how a regulatory body in the US might oversee a segment of society but the case would be brought by the justice department.

CONI, for example, was able to get Valverde's blood bags because they are part of the Italian government. They requested it through official channels. AFLD is part of a larger governmental agency as well.

that being said I am not 100% sure how ANA fits into the Spanish government.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

that being said I am not 100% sure how ANA fits into the Spanish government.

Does anyone??? I think even they don't know themselves

 

[Race Radio]

A magistrates court in Denia (Alicante) has started proceedings to open an investigation based on documents from the Armstrong case,

http://www.marca.com/2013/03/30/en/more_sports/1364666748.html

The events under investigation took place exclusively in 2009 and 2010 and point more to the actions of other individuals than those of Armstrong himself, although U.S. network ABC talks of the possibility of him being charged.

 

[movingtarget]

While the Spanish riders ride into the sunset without a care in the world. They have to get their own house in order first.

 

[Bosco10]

I'm kinda sorta thinkin this thang won't amount to anythang.

 

[Race Radio]

While the Spanish riders ride into the sunset without a care in the world. They have to get their own house in order first.

To be fair Fuentes and his buddies are on trial right now and ANA say they will get blood samples once the trial is over.

 

[gooner]

Spanish doctor Luis Garcia del Moral, a key figure in the doping case around former cycling legend Lance Armstrong, lost the support of local authorities in Valencia, where he was practising.

The Sports Medicine Institute, which was led by Del Moral and benefited from a public contract from the local government, has closed its doors, the daily Las Provincias reported Friday.

The Spanish State Anti-Doping Agency celebrated the news.

"This is a consequence of the work we have done," agency sources said.

The agency passed on the Armstrong report drafted by the US Anti-Doping Agency in October 2012 to Spain's public prosecutors.

http://www.supersport.com/cycling/international/news/130419/Armstrongs_doctor_out_of_favour_in_Spain