Ashenden to resign

[Escarabajo]

Which is the least period of time. I would never like him to be allowed to talk about individual cases to his liking. Ashenden (and every other human being) isn't infallible and doesn't represent the truth. He can criticize the system, I would even be happy if he does (hopefully to change it), but speaking about individuals is unethical. The end doesn't always justify the means...

I am not sure that's what he meant. I think he was not allowed to even to talk about situations or methods that he would not agree to. Example, the lack of testing in general.

 

[roundabout]

Yes, I can't recall Ashended ever mentioning names directly so I don't really understand certain posts in this thread. I also think that he himself knows what is ethical and what isn't without the peanut gallery needing to voice their disapproval

 

[MacRoadie]

Which is the least period of time. I would never like him to be allowed to talk about individual cases to his liking. Ashenden (and every other human being) isn't infallible and doesn't represent the truth. He can criticize the system, I would even be happy if he does (hopefully to change it), but speaking about individuals is unethical. The end doesn't always justify the means...

And Ashenden would agree with you:

Of course, I am willing to sign confidentiality clauses which preclude me from sharing any information I encounter in my role as an expert, and that is precisely the clause and contract I signed to be on WADA's Expert Panel. However I am not willing to go further and allow the APMU to censor the expression of my personal opinions about non-confidential matters.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Which is the least period of time. I would never like him to be allowed to talk about individual cases to his liking.

I see what you did there.... You are the only person leaping to the conclusion a book would identify riders by name.

1. Ashenden is not that irresponsible. Everyone understands the consequences.
2. There's no doubt in my mind Ashenden could write an epic without naming a single rider.

 

[DirtyWorks]

That's awful. How hard can it be to make sure that ABP-testing is unpredictable?

That is just one gap in the system.

The anti-doping system is designed to give the doping athlete enough time to deliver a sample that will generate a false negative. The system is designed so riders are free to dope/ride within 'safe' criteria.

 

[Markyboyzx6r]

I tell you what, I thought 2012 was going to be a really good year in the anti-doping fight in cycling.

It's turning out to be an absolute disaster. And it's only April.

 

[rata de sentina]

Which is the least period of time. I would never like him to be allowed to talk about individual cases to his liking. Ashenden (and every other human being) isn't infallible and doesn't represent the truth. He can criticize the system, I would even be happy if he does (hopefully to change it), but speaking about individuals is unethical. The end doesn't always justify the means...

You obviously didn't read the article since that's not what he's complaining about. If you are going to post about it the very least you could do is make an effort to read it. He is already bound by confidentiality agreement which precludes comment on specific cases, it is the broadening of this to cover all aspects including generalities that he has a problem with.

 

[SpeedWay]

Just an organizations prudent attempt to reign in a loose canyon.
Touché - Pout, resign, and go home.
Maybe Olbermann can school him on how things work, or don't work, in the real world.

 

[Race Radio]

Just an organizations prudent attempt to reign in a loose canyon.
Touché - Pout, resign, and go home.
Maybe Olbermann can school him on how things work, or don't work, in the real world.

Fail

By "Go Home" you mean continue to work for WADA catching dopers? Ashenden will continue to work on a Bio Passport committee. Now it will be one based in the US and not one based in Switzerland influenced by the UCI

 

[Caruut]

Just an organizations prudent attempt to reign in a loose canyon.
Touché - Pout, resign, and go home.
Maybe Olbermann can school him on how things work, or don't work, in the real world.

How do things work in the real world, then?

 

[badboygolf16v]

reign in a loose canyon

Mildly amusing, intentional or not.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I tell you what, I thought 2012 was going to be a really good year in the anti-doping fight in cycling.

It's turning out to be an absolute disaster. And it's only April.

The UCI's been around long enough the cycle is familiar. Right now we're in the "It's really bad but no public information" phase. It will take another 12-24 months until another Festina-scale doping scandal. The way the leadership at the UCI is taking anti-doping into complete secrecy, it might be 36 months before the next scandal.

Remember, according to Pat, 2% of the peloton dope. He fails to mention it's at least the TOP 2%.

 

[Polish]

Yes, I can't recall Ashended ever mentioning names directly so I don't really understand certain posts in this thread. I also think that he himself knows what is ethical and what isn't without the peanut gallery needing to voice their disapproval

I seem to recall Ashenden mentioning a name or two in the past - but mainly as a way to get attention for himself imo.

And has Alberto ever made public his exemption for his over 50 hct level?
Don't seem to recall that. Many riders would just as soon keep that kind of info private for various reasons. But Ashenden mentions it and Alberto by name. And of course some peanut gallery people jump on that info as "evidence" of foul play.

 

[Benotti69]

The UCI's been around long enough the cycle is familiar. Right now we're in the "It's really bad but no public information" phase. It will take another 12-24 months until another Festina-scale doping scandal. The way the leadership at the UCI is taking anti-doping into complete secrecy, it might be 36 months before the next scandal.

Remember, according to Pat, 2% of the peloton dope. He fails to mention it's at least the TOP 2%.

I think it will take another police raid and nothing from the sport. The cycling authorities are not really interested in halting the doping that is obvious.

They could've followed a certain camper van around Europe and caught some big names.

 

[roundabout]

I seem to recall Ashenden mentioning a name or two in the past - but mainly as a way to get attention for himself imo.

And has Alberto ever made public his exemption for his over 50 hct level?
Don't seem to recall that. Many riders would just as soon keep that kind of info private for various reasons. But Ashenden mentions it and Alberto by name. And of course some peanut gallery people jump on that info as "evidence" of foul play.

If you recall that happening maybe you can recall the names as well.

and the exemption has been leaked to the Spanish press some time ago and possibly could even be found in the text of the award (not sure about the last one as I haven't accessed the text in ages)

 

[Polish]

If you recall that happening maybe you can recall the names as well.

and the exemption has been leaked to the Spanish press some time ago and possibly could even be found in the text of the award (not sure about the last one as I haven't accessed the text in ages)

Look, there is no doubt in my mind that Ashenden mentioned other riders by name in an attempt to get publicity.

But I guess I could be wrong. Do not have a link.
Insufficient evidence I suppose.